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recracer 01-14-2011 10:36 PM

Megelli 250r
 
just for starters i've spent some time tonight uploading to photobucket 31 photos up to view for now and i'll get to filling in the story http://s440.photobucket.com/home/recracer/index

Weldangrind 01-15-2011 12:03 AM

Those are really nice quality welds. 8O

david3921 01-15-2011 07:14 AM

Is the "tank" a cover and the real tank lower in the frame somewhere?

ChinaV 01-16-2011 08:57 AM

Re: Megelli 250r
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by recracer
just for starters i've spent some time tonight uploading to photobucket 31 photos up to view for now and i'll get to filling in the story http://s440.photobucket.com/home/recracer/index

The 250 version has been a long time coming...very interested in what you have to say about this bike.

Cheers!
ChinaV

FastDoc 01-16-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Those are really nice quality welds. 8O

I was thinking the same thing. If that reflects the build quality of the rest of the bike it should be a nice machine.

recracer 01-16-2011 10:54 PM

well past time to get this started here . first impressions . Some know and some don't The bike was damaged in shipping . prize bike with no warranty and no help with the damage , well not that big a deal 30.something dollars and on the road i go . right off the bat . more power than i had been riding (viva 200) an extra gear 6 instead of 5 . really enjoyed the extra power ,it would even bark second gear wow . after that is when it got rough . this bike is sprung way to heavy for my weight and i think bennche may have missed the boat , bringing a bike that stiff . any extended ride is hard on the body , i have to admit that the sport bike ride position turns out to be not for me at least on this bike ,the stiff front end pounds my wrist badly . i got om line and looked for street bike setups on how to adjust sag on the rear spring (only adjustment on it ) this further proved it is way to heavily sprung . all the sag should be from the riders weight ,to get any sag at all i had to adjust it till it was sagging with bike weight 25mm and 5mm more with my weight . It's still stiff ,but better and with some compliance in the rear ,the second gear bark is gone . power can be an illusion ,based on a chassis / suspension being stupid . the problem that got resolve right at the end of the riding season. from day one it had a bad front brake vibration . talked to bennche (no warranty ) so again 30 something dollars OK not to bad . replaced the rotor , took it for a ride . not as bad ,but still front brake vibration was sill there . So another few emails back and forth . i don't want to pay for another rotor , so i asked can you warranty the one i bought . no reply several more e mails no reply . finally one day i looked up and called a bennche megelli dealer in Hanover pa. . he was very helpful with this and said he'd run it through his contact at bennche . several days later got an email from Johnny tai . owner of bennche . he set me up with a contact in china . we had a few convo's and finally sent me a complete front brake setup lever to caliper and rotor . according to the rep in china it was all updated , due to problems . witch was also noted on the motorcycle .com review . well it fixed the vibration and got in a few short rides before i couldn't take the cold weather . overall i think it's a good bike . mods needed to make it a really good bike .

recracer 01-16-2011 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david3921
Is the "tank" a cover and the real tank lower in the frame somewhere?

The tank is real and the battery is in a really bad place . i need to run some charging leads for winter storage . as I'm writing this the battery is dead and the tank has to come back off . witch also reminds me ,the tank was off ,because the petcock was seeping smelling up my garage . had to fix it before the wife forced me to store it outside.

recracer 01-16-2011 11:08 PM

The welds are much better than we expect from china . should be a nice platform properly sprung and some adjustments would nice to. At this point i haven't spent allot of time looking in to it . my other project came very shortly after this one arrived . 85 gold wing Le witch i hope to have ready for spring . yes a so called geezer cruiser . couldn't pass for the price .

BDIAgencies 01-17-2011 08:33 AM

Here is a review from Motorcycle.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46CPT...eature=related

Cool little commuter bike...

katoranger 01-17-2011 09:10 AM

As will all China bikes they left plenty of room for improvement.

recracer 01-17-2011 11:37 AM

also wanted to mention ,that the 2010 ninja 250s were less than the megelli to-wards the end of the year . i went to a dealer and sat on one . what a difference . suspension complies as you sit on it handle bars are a bit more upright . the megelli's foot pegs are ridged mounted and can give some foot numbness on longer rides . As in the reveiw i did scrape the kick stand once , but not enough to upset the bike .

katoranger 01-17-2011 03:36 PM

I have kept the Ninja 250 in mind as a possible commuter. They are pretty cheap used.

SpudRider 01-20-2011 05:37 PM

Thanks for the update, Racer. :)

Spud :)

BDIAgencies 01-21-2011 07:25 AM

The 250cc is a growing market as I see Honda has there own CBR250R and finally bringing it North America...$4499.00 or $4999.00 for the upgraded ABS..

I contacted Benneche and he told me that they have no plans to bringing the Megelli to Canada at this time...

I would probably stick with the Ninja if I was going to get one...

katoranger 01-21-2011 09:03 AM

The ninja 250 is a pretty good value. Espicially a slightly used one.

FastDoc 01-21-2011 11:58 AM

The CBR looks great but the Ninja would leave it behind as if it were pulling a boat anchor. The Ninja is the same or less money so it's a no brainer to me. The caveat is the CBR can be had with ABS.

I had a 2008 Ninja250R for a season and I really liked that bike. If it were not for the fact I just bought it to repair and sell for a profit I'd have kept it. Plus if it were any color but that Kawasaki green which I don't care for, especially on a streetbike. :roll:

My girlfriend at the time and I rode that bike 5,000 miles in one summer. :D

recracer 02-05-2011 07:49 PM

With some other projects on hold i decided to try a gear change on the megelli . I took some measurements and came up with Jtr819 sprockets as a fit . http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html...el_uid=1612&p= However 41t is all that is listed in this sprocket . i want to try a bigger change . found jtr1825 only thing is center bore is smaller by 4mm , but sizes from 37 to 48 teeth are available . http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html...el_uid=5723&p=[url] I found and bought a 48 tooth on ebay . so when i get it ,I'll be looking to see if opening up the center hole or turning down the wheel ,is a better way to go to give myself more options . this is a chart to show the ratio difference http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...Megelli002.jpg

FastDoc 02-05-2011 07:56 PM

Dont change anything on the wheel. Only work on the procket. I'd use a machine shop if you could. The steel the sprockets are made of is very strong and difficult to cut/grind.

recracer 02-05-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FastDoc
Dont change anything on the wheel. Only work on the procket. I'd use a machine shop if you could. The steel the sprockets are made of is very strong and difficult to cut/grind.

Once i have the sprocket in hand and the wheel off , I'll be able to see whats there . I could chuck the sprocket or wheel on a lathe at work . actually just the cushy drive part not the whole wheel

FastDoc 02-05-2011 08:29 PM

If you have access to a lathe and know how to use it (I sure don't :roll: ) that would be your best bet. Considering the sprocket is the cheaper and more easily replaced part that's the one I would modify.

recracer 02-08-2011 10:53 PM

Sprocket in hand . I have to say I'm inclined to machine the sprocket hub and not the sprocket , doing so gives me the easy option of the jtr1825 lineup ( Rear sprocket available in: 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 45, 46, 47, 48 teeth ) even the 37t OE size is possible in JT's lineup and i wouldn't have to machine each size to try it . megelli only has a 39 or 40t sprocket as options . here are some photo's . If there's something important I'm missing feel free to yell . http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...Megelli005.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...Megelli006.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...Megelli014.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...Megelli011.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...Megelli010.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...Megelli004.jpg

FastDoc 02-08-2011 11:27 PM

I think either would work but I'd still cut the sprocket rather than the bike part. The sprocket is cheap and easy to replace, the hub is not. Just my 2 cents. :D

Weldangrind 02-09-2011 12:46 AM

After seeing that list of available sprockets, I'd machine the hub. Before you do, have you identified which hub yours is based on?

recracer 02-09-2011 12:54 AM

Seems to be suzuki bolt pattern . jtr819 is a close fit ,but harder to find and fewer sizes .
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...50r/jtr819.jpg 80-81 gs250 Rear sprocket available in: 37, 39, 46, 47 teeth . Bolt holes would need to be opened to 10.5

SpudRider 02-09-2011 02:01 AM

I would definitely machine the hub, Racer. ;) You only need to remove 2mm from the hub's radius, and you will have a much larger selection of sprockets to choose from. :)

Spud :)

Cal25 02-09-2011 08:33 AM

Looks easier to me to chuck up the hub and cut it down to fit the new sprocket. Maybe use an engraver on the hub to mark the new sprocket model # so it will be easier for you or the next owner to ID when it comes time to change the sprocket.

Weldangrind 02-09-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal25
Looks easier to me to chuck up the hub and cut it down to fit the new sprocket. Maybe use an engraver on the hub to mark the new sprocket model # so it will be easier for you or the next owner to ID when it comes time to change the sprocket.

Excellent logic. :D

FastDoc 02-09-2011 11:33 AM

I have been soundly outvoted!

Anyway, make it fit and let us know how it works! :D

recracer 02-09-2011 11:50 AM

Machining done Cell phone photos .

FastDoc 02-09-2011 11:53 AM

Good pics and good job. i envy your skills and access to the equipment. :D

SpudRider 02-09-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recracer
Machining done Cell phone photos

Thanks for posting the photos. As always, you did a nice job. :)

Spud :)

recracer 02-09-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc
I have been soundly outvoted!

Anyway, make it fit and let us know how it works! :D

your point was well taken Doc . I looked up the hub price just in case . less than 50.00 usd plus shipping . The lathe i have available to me ,is our brake lathe . not a real lathe ,but have used it before on non rotor or brake drums projects . adapt and over come . anyway it makes circles you just have to figure out how to get the bit where you need it . :) i don't know if anyone looked at the numbers on the gear compare . the megelli was already quicker than the viva . even with that high gearing . 48t should be a blast . I'm thinking maybe the top end may be faster ,because 6th gear ran out of torque at a pretty low rpm .

katoranger 02-09-2011 07:26 PM

Lathe, I would just use an angle grinder. :wink:

SpudRider 02-10-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by katoranger
Lathe, I would just use an angle grinder. :wink:

Angle grinder? I would just use a Dremel tool. ;)

Spud :lol:

ChinaV 02-10-2011 08:07 PM

Really nice work recracer, be curious to know what kind of top speed you are getting now. Also one other question...was there any kind of cush drive unit in the hub?

Cheers!
ChinaV

recracer 02-10-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinaV
Really nice work recracer, be curious to know what kind of top speed you are getting now. Also one other question...was there any kind of cush drive unit in the hub?

Cheers!
ChinaV

I have seen 80mph And if i remember correctly around 6200 rpm . one reason i don't really remember for sure . it has about 400 miles on it . most of that was slower riding ,due to a bad brake vibration and not being broken in . just got the vibration fixed and winter set in really fast at that point
Yes it does have cush drive setup .

recracer 02-10-2011 11:20 PM

hopefully I'll get to try this out this weekend ,we may see near 50F . This sprocket looks huge to me on the bike

FastDoc 02-10-2011 11:42 PM

GREAT PICS!!!

The Megelli is SUCH as good looking motorcycle. It could pass for a Ducati anywhere. :D

That Gold WIng is unique in creation. I've never seen anything like it. Did Larry The Cable Guy do the charging system? :P

recracer 02-10-2011 11:50 PM

Doc I added the alternator . gl1200 goldwings have high stator failures . many gl1200 owners have installed a kit similar to this . I'm not big on buying kits ,so I'm creating this setup myself . charging system was what put this goldwing down with low mileage

FastDoc 02-11-2011 12:30 AM

Amazing.

I can't imagine all the steps you must have put into making that work!

I don't know much about the earlier Wings, except they were cool.


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