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Weldangrind 10-14-2015 10:28 AM

No, that could be very permanent. The float dropped too far because there was no fuel in it, and it got stuck there. As long as there is fuel in the carb, it should be fine.

jezzrite 10-14-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 194589)
No, that could be very permanent. The float dropped too far because there was no fuel in it, and it got stuck there. As long as there is fuel in the carb, it should be fine.

Ah, I see. My fault then, for running the bike till empty.

But...I ran my other China bike till empty several times (no fuel gauge, and I wasn't paying much attention then... :D), and the sweet Keeway never experienced the problem after filling up again.

Design fault for the Zong's carb? Faulty float? Or simply faulty rider? :doh:

Now I feel bad for blaming my carb. :shrug:

Weldangrind 10-14-2015 10:56 AM

It just happened, that's all. Move on.

:D

jezzrite 10-14-2015 11:03 AM

Happened twice now. Guess the actual problem lies directly above the seat. :lmao:

Thinking about buying the same carb from TaoBao to better understand the inner working and the art of jetting.

But, the thought of converting it to EFI just crossed my mind. Or not? :ohno:

Weldangrind 10-14-2015 11:39 PM

I'd leave it carbureted. Much simpler. Jetting is not a black art.

Jay In Milpitas 10-15-2015 12:39 AM

Hello Jezzrite.

First let me sat that I am not familiar with the carb used by Zongshen, but some things apply to all carbs.

1. It may be a bit of dirt holding the needle valve off the seat. Have you removed the bowl to see if there is dirt?

2. Some carbs have something to stop the float from dropping too far. On some designs if the float drops too far, the needle turns sideways a bit, so they have a tab the can be adjusted to keep it from going too far down.

With the bowl off, work the float with your finger with your other hand working the petcock so you can watch the action.

Good luck, Jay.

peperino 10-16-2015 07:36 PM

Sorry if it has been discussed before, I couldn't find it

Does anyone know the standard jet sizes? We would like to compare what we get here to other countries and see if it is the same or not.

Thank you

DaytonaMike 11-23-2015 02:53 PM

Fuel Line to carb Missing hose clamp
 
I thought I would post this here as well as the other thread as an FYI

One other note for bikes with a carb. I noticed last night when I was looking at adding an inline fuel filter that the bike does not have a hose clamp on the carb side of the fuel line :doh: An easy fix but a sloppy mistake on someones part. Jut an FYI for those with carbs to double check their bikes. The hose is a very tight fit to the nipple on the carb but thats when the bike is cool. When everything gets hot it may be a different story.

wilsoncheah 08-16-2016 12:47 AM

Dear All,
I am a rider from Malaysia.
I have a problem that i need to release a handful of clutch during 1st gear before my bike can move. if not , engine will die off by itself.
any idea?

Jay In Milpitas 08-16-2016 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsoncheah (Post 228428)
Dear All,
I am a rider from Malaysia.
I have a problem that i need to release a handful of clutch during 1st gear before my bike can move. if not , engine will die off by itself.
any idea?

How many miles/kilometers on the bike? How long since tune up?

Always start with the basics. May be as simple as adjusting idle mixture.

DaytonaMike 08-16-2016 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsoncheah (Post 228428)
Dear All,
I am a rider from Malaysia.
I have a problem that i need to release a handful of clutch during 1st gear before my bike can move. if not , engine will die off by itself.
any idea?

I had this same issue last weekend. 2900km on the bike with a fresh oil change to 20W50 oil. It only happened after a 150km ride with no real stops but varying speeds. As soon as I got back into town it happened at the first traffic light. Bike felt sluggish at take-off in 1st gear. Had to ride the clutch to avoid stalling. Bike is in for service now. Not sure when I will have a chance to duplicate the conditions but will try to let you know what the shop finds and how it performs later.

Jay, I never thought idle mixture could cause this. I assumed clutch or oil heat issue. Will look into that. Thanks for the input!!!

Jay In Milpitas 08-16-2016 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaytonaMike (Post 228445)
Jay, I never thought idle mixture could cause this. I assumed clutch or oil heat issue. Will look into that. Thanks for the input!!!

Mike, idle mixture affects the engine from idle to about 1/8 throttle, then the pilot jet is in play until the slide is opened enough for the main jet & needle to be the primary players.

If the idle mixture is off "optimum" setting and the idle speed screw is adjusted to overcome the improper setting, then it is common for the low speed mixture make the engine behave funny.

wilsoncheah 08-16-2016 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 228440)
How many miles/kilometers on the bike? How long since tune up?

Always start with the basics. May be as simple as adjusting idle mixture.

already 10k KM mileage on the big... last tune up was 3months back when i sent back to Mforce for engine head leaking, a famous problem we had in Malaysia. apparently the solution is to remove the screw on the triangle thingy ontop on the engine.
Will try to adjsut the idle mix with my mec this weekend.

rjmorel 08-17-2016 01:14 PM

wilsoncheah "apparently the solution is to remove the screw on the triangle thingy ontop on the engine."
Can you elaborate on this? What were the bikes doing? leaking? where? oil or coolant? Whats the triangle thingy do? just curious, rj

katflap 08-17-2016 04:25 PM

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rj,

I have a recollection of reading about a problem some guys were having with their RX3 bikes. Perhaps it is the same problem that wilsoncheah has mentioned.

I think the gist of it was that the bottom and the top engine mounting (The triangular bit), were putting the engine under too much tension and pulling the rocker cover slightly apart. But it was enough to create an oil leak at this joint.

I think their solution to this was to fit 3 bolts of a smaller diameter, this would then allow the triangular mounting piece that attaches to the triangular mounting on engine, to sit a little lower. :tup:


yellow arrow = where the triangular mounting piece fits on to engine.

red arrow = the joint where the oil leak was occurring

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