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muzo_31 04-17-2016 12:40 PM

Hi folks.
PCHUD archive links are broken today.
Can you please help ?

SpudRider 04-17-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by muzo_31 (Post 212297)
Hi folks.
PCHUD archive links are broken today.
Can you please help ?

If you can't download the files, I suggest you send a personal message to forum member Katflap.

muzo_31 04-17-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 212303)
If you can't download the files, I suggest you send a personal message to forum member Katflap.

Thanks I'll do that.
cheers !

No1Vic 04-20-2016 05:22 PM

Quick diy lead using http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAG-COM-KKL-...993964&vxp=mtr and modifying one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extension-Co...466724&vxp=mtr works with PCHud
Plus you have the option to connect other OBD devices to the bike using the second modded lead :-)

No1Vic 04-20-2016 06:32 PM

Modded OBD lead to suit RX3 Port
 
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This is the lead I have made to connect to the VAG KKL to USB adaptor for running PCHud on the laptop. Also I have been able to connect other scanners / adaptors to the bike using my lead :-)

muzo_31 04-21-2016 02:04 AM

I have ordered similar cable to ebay: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/262367188038?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Waiting for delivery to try this out ! :)

SpudRider 04-21-2016 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by No1Vic (Post 212824)
This is the lead I have made to connect to the VAG KKL to USB adaptor for running PCHud on the laptop. Also I have been able to connect other scanners / adaptors to the bike using my lead :-)

I have constructed a similar cable, but it failed to connect my MaxiScan MS309 to the Delphi ECU in my RX3.

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241...0324773552.jpg

Therefore, I reckoned the Delphi ECU software was not completely OBD2 compliant. :hmm:

Have you had success reading a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) with another OBD2 compliant scanner? If so, please tell me which scanner(s) you have successfully connected to the Delphi ECU of the RX3. :) I have my cable handy, and I am eager to try another scanner. ;)

If I can find an OBD2 scanner which will read and erase codes from the Delphi ECU, I will post a thread showing how to obtain the proper parts to fabricate the cable. Then everyone will have the option to carry a compact OBD2 scanner along with them when they depart on trips, et cetera. :)

No1Vic 04-21-2016 09:10 AM

OBD scanner I used is Innova 3110
 
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Hi Spud, my scanner connected, detected the protocol and showed no DTCs present,

No1Vic 04-21-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by muzo_31 (Post 212891)
I have ordered similar cable to ebay: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/262367188038?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Waiting for delivery to try this out ! :)


Hi Muzo, you will also need to make the OBD to RX3 cable as in my post #95 to connect the VAG KKL lead.

SpudRider 04-21-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by No1Vic (Post 212925)
Hi Spud, my scanner connected, detected the protocol and showed no DTCs present,

My cheap scanner attempts to link with Keyword 2000, but doesn't connect with the Delphi ECU. :hmm:

If you disconnect the O2 sensor, or disconnect the cable for the ignition coil, do you get the appropriate trouble code? Can you reconnect the cable, and clear the trouble code with the OBD2 scanner?

My MaxiScan MS309 scanner works with my automobile, but not my RX3. :shrug: I'm pretty sure the Delphi ECUs in our CSC bikes have a different version of the software than the Honely bikes. Perhaps this is the problem?

http://www.autelscanner.com/products...MS309_749.html

BlackBike 04-21-2016 01:59 PM

spud, i missed it if you said, did you verify your scanner is functioning on a automobile? very interesting hack .

i know network wiring is very temperamental from the little experience i have had with Ethernet cable transforming.

SpudRider 04-21-2016 09:56 PM

Yes, my MaxiScan MS309 works with my automobile. ;)

No1Vic 04-24-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 212961)
My cheap scanner attempts to link with Keyword 2000, but doesn't connect with the Delphi ECU. :hmm:

If you disconnect the O2 sensor, or disconnect the cable for the ignition coil, do you get the appropriate trouble code? Can you reconnect the cable, and clear the trouble code with the OBD2 scanner?

My MaxiScan MS309 scanner works with my automobile, but not my RX3. :shrug: I'm pretty sure the Delphi ECUs in our CSC bikes have a different version of the software than the Honely bikes. Perhaps this is the problem?

http://www.autelscanner.com/products...MS309_749.html

After trying what you suggested Spud it seems my scanner although shows connected it didn't pick up the DTC :-( Still shows no DTC's stored. PCHud did pick up error 49 so glad that works :-)

SpudRider 04-24-2016 11:12 AM

Thanks for checking. :)

The PCHud software does work well. :) Apparently we need a Delphi Scan Tool, or its equivalent, to connect to the Delphi ECU via scanner. ;)

No1Vic 04-24-2016 01:31 PM

OBD Protocol?
 
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After looking more into PCHud I came across a presentation by John Boreham from Delphi where he mentions the protocol used by the software is ALDL, it's an OBD1 one originally used by General Motor so maybe the reason why our OBD2 scanners might detect but not be able to communicate with the ecu. Worth looking into further.


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