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mizke 03-04-2011 02:23 AM

dont want to thread jack but if you did some kind of write up or something on the installation of them i would love to read it. im thinking im going to have to completely wire in a set of fogs seperate of the wire harness and hopefully be able to use the headlight, kill/start switch i bought.. just need it to turn on the running lights and head lights thats it..

Jim 03-04-2011 03:00 AM

They never worked at all? Well I guess I shouldn't expect a high/low beam then and just be happy they turn on with the switch... :lol: :lol:

Mizke, on my Beast there is 6 wires for the headlight that come out at the front of the wire harness. I believe, and sorry I can't be certain at this time as the Beast is stored at my parents, that they are blue, white and green? I just checked the ebay listing, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=220695059314 they look blue white and green on the headlight side... However they were a different color on the other side, I think black green and blue? I will try to check for sure next time I'm at my parents.

PCD also posted a wiring diagram which MICRider pointed me too here: http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...&p=83765#83765 though the colors may not match, they didn't for me.

Weldangrind 03-04-2011 09:50 AM

In our case it was a socket problem, but back then I hadn't identified the bulb type. If I can find replacement sockets of higher qiality, I'm sure that the rest of the system will be fine.

You mentioned that your Beast is almost done, Jim. What's left?

mizke 03-04-2011 12:12 PM

thanks jim, look like im stuck with just touching the wires together untill i can get the rear brakes running light to turn on.. once i can get that to happen then the actual headlight wires is all i would need to figure out

Jim 03-04-2011 09:51 PM

Weld, I need to retap one of the foot peg bolt locations, and tighten up everything on the front end, as well as check / grease the front wheel bearings. As well as a clutch adjustment and brake adjustment.

Mizke, hope you can get it sorted out.

mizke 03-04-2011 09:56 PM

ya got it figured out tonight, every thing so far with the new switch setup is working perfectly.. only i have yet to test and cannot test untill i get to a point where i feel comfortable firing her up is the kill switch. thats the last peice of the puzzle but if the start button works, and all 4 wires to the headlight switch works.. then the last 4 wires should go together.. but we will see

Weldangrind 03-05-2011 01:34 AM

Jim, is that fine thread tap the correct one for the foot peg mount? Are you going to drill the lower steering sleeve for a zerk?

Jim 03-05-2011 09:59 AM

About he bolt, I haven't looked yet. About the steering, probably, and probably do other recommended repairs.

I forgot, I also need to build a lower guard for the sprocket and disc.

MICRider 03-05-2011 06:22 PM

Regarding the headlight, on my Beast both low and high beam work. The difference between the two is negligible though... Plus, the battery on mine dies so quick that I never turn it on :lol:

mizke 03-05-2011 06:25 PM

if you want good head lights, a pair of either car fog lights or car driving lights.. they will be as bright as if they where on the car.. with my old friends in lakeway when ever we rode at night, they always wanted me to be the lead quad cuz i used fog lights instead of the stock head lights

FLASHLIGHTBOY 03-05-2011 07:33 PM

headlights
 
if you use the FOG lights or other headlights .. this will cause the battery to go dead... as they use alot of power.. and the charging system will not keep up... if you want something good.. go to PRINCESS AUTO... they have LED HEADLIGHTS.. or GREGGS..(they are like ACKLANDS ) I do not know how much they are but they would not drain the battery down as fast... almost all FOG lights have 55 watt bulbs( H3).. Your small battery is about 55-90 amps .. at the best of it.. the alternator charges maybe 10 amps.. ( if you are lucky.. ).. I have had many wanting the bright lights.. but this is what happens.. DEAD BATTERYS.. You can also try hooking up a nother battery for more backup... but you will have to put it on the charger when you come back at night.. anyone done this LED headlight switch yet?

mizke 03-05-2011 10:54 PM

i have had no issues what so ever in the past almost 3yrs of owning my quad and using car fog lights. not once did the battery go dead while riding or even if it was parked for a day or 2.. anything after 2 days with out starting it id have to unhook the battery to prevent a dead one. but that is due to something (not fog lights) pulling a very very tiny .4v off the battery when the quad is turned off and the key is removed..

i think those people that ran into a dead battery due to the fog lights is cuz they had the lights on and the motor off.. cuz i can drain my battery in like 10 minutes maybe less if i just leave the fog lights on..

FosterVS 03-06-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mizke
i have had no issues what so ever in the past almost 3yrs of owning my quad and using car fog lights. not once did the battery go dead while riding or even if it was parked for a day or 2.. anything after 2 days with out starting it id have to unhook the battery to prevent a dead one. but that is due to something (not fog lights) pulling a very very tiny .4v off the battery when the quad is turned off and the key is removed..

i think those people that ran into a dead battery due to the fog lights is cuz they had the lights on and the motor off.. cuz i can drain my battery in like 10 minutes maybe less if i just leave the fog lights on..

It should be pointed out the lead-acid batteries these ship with are CRAP. One in my T3 just died, got a slightly taller one from Walmart yesterday for $48.

Also - do these ATV's actually have a charging circuit?

katoranger 03-06-2011 10:51 AM

I think they do, but it may not have a high enough output to maintain the battery while running the lights.

mizke 03-06-2011 12:13 PM

i nursed a bad battery for over year and just last year replaced the battery with a brand new one..

i dont see why so many people are against fog lights, they have never caused a battery to go dead for me and they are much better then using crappy stock head lights

Weldangrind 03-06-2011 12:24 PM

Yes, these quads have a charging circuit, but it can't keep up with an undersized poor quality battery, an igntion circuit and lights. A larger, better quality battery will be able to maintain more reserve capacity to run lights.

I'm not against fog lights. I'm concerned about putting too much current through the stock switches and wires. I'd much rather use the stock switch to trigger a relay which would trigger the lights. There's a reason that the stock lights are only 18 watts.

mizke 03-06-2011 12:56 PM

a relay would be a peace of mind thing for me. so far i have not smoked any wires, or burnt up any switches.. before i tore my quad apart i let it idle for an hour with the lights on and checked the wires by grabbing them and feeling for any kind of heat. it seemed that the stock harness was able to handle the draw the fog lights put on it..

plus guys you can run a single fog light instead of 2 fog lights and still have 5 times the light output of the stock headlights.

MICRider 03-06-2011 01:03 PM

Lol, I just don't ride mine in the dark... Though really, I don't ride mine much at all. Might have to trade it on a dirt bike :). Wonder what a mint Gio Beast with performance shocks (black springs) and the performance carb would sell for on Kijiji? Guessing 6 or 700 dollars?

mizke 03-06-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICRider
Lol, I just don't ride mine in the dark... Though really, I don't ride mine much at all. Might have to trade it on a dirt bike :). Wonder what a mint Gio Beast with performance shocks (black springs) and the performance carb would sell for on Kijiji? Guessing 6 or 700 dollars?

you would get more by just hanging on it and enjoying it when you can.. if you want a db find one that needs some sweet tlc and wrench time, it will be cheaper..

Jim 03-08-2011 01:07 AM

We put in new wheel bearings on the front. 4 6003Z bearings... I bought them before taking off the second wheel. I had different bearings left and right... Left was 6003z, right was 6003rs... The right had a rubber seal on the bearing. I guess I should've got that, but I got the other, I think they are actually 6003zzz nachi bearings. They were about $6.60 a piece, if they wear out I'll look for some with the rubber seal. I reused the seals off the quad.

We tightened up a bunch of bolts on the steering components. I also painted the front hubs red to match the rear.

I do need to eventually replace the control arm bushings, they aren't much good, one in particular. Not sure when I will get around to that, I don't think I've read of anyone doing those yet so I guess I will have to do the hunting for a replacement part number ;)

One the quad now there isn't a lot left, I need to fix a bolt on the foot peg, and the bumper, and then there are a couple more body panel bolts to put in.

I painted the foot rest part of the back fender with the black under coating (there was too much red), and I think it came out good.

I also built the hitch to go into the receiver that fits the lawn mower trailer. My welding has improved since the swing arm plate.

I don't have any pictures I didn't realize the battery was dead on the camera.

Other then that I think just a clutch and brake adjustment.

Jim 03-12-2011 07:08 PM

Here it is currently.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...k/Beast001.jpg

I painted the bottom part of the back plastic, where your feet rest, with black undercoating... There was too much red. You can also see the red hubs on the front now.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...Beast013-1.jpg
This is the hitch I built to fit in the receiver, a bolt just drops through the trailer reach through the hole in the bottom of this...

And one final addition for now,
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...Beast009-3.jpg

Weldangrind 03-12-2011 08:38 PM

Awesome! Anything left to do?

Jim 03-12-2011 09:10 PM

I keep forgetting I need to build a guard for the sprocket and brake disc before I take it over anything rough.

And I may get those ebay shocks.

Oh and I need to adjust the shift lever, clutch, and front brakes.

Jim 03-21-2011 01:49 AM

Today I adjusted the clutch, shift lever, and front brakes. We also made a guard for the sprocket / brake disc. I put the remaining few bolts in the plastic panels I missed before.

I also tried out pulling the trailer around, seems to work ok.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...beast001-1.jpg

Weldangrind 03-21-2011 01:54 AM

I hereby request a close-up shot of the sprocket / rotor guard. Please. :D

Jim 03-21-2011 02:01 AM

I'll have to remember to take a picture of that next time I'm over, it's nothing fancy, it's big and heavy... It should take a good hit...

Cal25 03-21-2011 09:14 AM

That thing sure looks loads better than the day you picked it up!

Weldangrind 03-21-2011 01:35 PM

It runs better too. :lol:

Jim 03-21-2011 11:15 PM

It even rolls better if you're pushing it :P


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