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culcune 10-20-2020 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeCoY (Post 347777)
UPDATE: My Hawk 250 (Carb version) Will be street legal in Colorado! (Technically)

Got the call today from the South Dakota dept of revenue! They took my tax payment of $100 and advised that my new South Dakota Motorcycle plates will be in the mail tomorrow morning, with the new title coming in 4-6 weeks! Colorado wanted me to jump through a bunch of impossible hoops just for the right to pay them, so I went to a state who was happy to take my money! Not only that, but the customer service person I spoke very pleasant and helpful, the total opposite of what I've experienced in Denver.

I think it's safe to say these bikes can for SURE be registered in SD, with this being a "workaround" for states like Colorado.

If you would like to know what county I went to in SD, please shoot me a PM for the contact info, it's a small town and I don't want them to get overloaded.
Will CO authorities raise red flags if you are riding around with a CO license on a SD plated bike? I do know that California will hassle people which is why most '49 state' bikes are never imported to that state with out-of-state plates with an owner attempting that loophole. I do know that Vermont will issue plates fairly liberally as someone attested to above, and I believe there is one more US state that I cannot remember off the top of my head who plate anything.

Emerikol 10-21-2020 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by culcune (Post 347847)
Will CO authorities raise red flags if you are riding around with a CO license on a SD plated bike? I do know that California will hassle people which is why most '49 state' bikes are never imported to that state with out-of-state plates with an owner attempting that loophole. I do know that Vermont will issue plates fairly liberally as someone attested to above, and I believe there is one more US state that I cannot remember off the top of my head who plate anything.
There's a national-level law that you can have a vehicle registered in one state, and have your license and/or insurance from another. It's basically what allows snowbirds to drive their RV's all over everywhere on their Arizona licenses. The only catch is that you can't have everything from a different state; i.e. you can't have Arizona registration with a North Dakota License and insurance from Texas. Two of the three must be from the same state. I'm a personal testament to this. I have Arizona insurance and registration, but still have my GA license since it makes sense with my investment properties back there. Purely a business benefit, but there you have it.

culcune 10-21-2020 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Emerikol (Post 347852)
There's a national-level law that you can have a vehicle registered in one state, and have your license and/or insurance from another. It's basically what allows snowbirds to drive their RV's all over everywhere on their Arizona licenses. The only catch is that you can't have everything from a different state; i.e. you can't have Arizona registration with a North Dakota License and insurance from Texas. Two of the three must be from the same state. I'm a personal testament to this. I have Arizona insurance and registration, but still have my GA license since it makes sense with my investment properties back there. Purely a business benefit, but there you have it.
California does not allow it. Somehow they can get away with enforcing the law, which is why you won't see Chinese bikes registered in other states riding around freely by California residents. The only two loopholes I understand are 1) distributors/dealers can street register bikes they distribute there 2) one CAN move to California and street plate an existing bike such as one of the many non-CARB Chinese dual-sports. There was a guy here from the San Francisco who mail-ordered a Lifan KPMini 150 around the time some of them WERE California legal and registered, but his was not a CARB certified model. He was actually going to drive down to Yuma where I was going to help him get an AZ title and registration ('help' as in using my address). As easy as it is to get an AZ title and registration, one does have to do it in person here, so getting to Yuma was necessary. He was going to take the risk of riding around on an AZ registered bike. I guess he could have tried to register it by mail via Vermont or South Dakota, or the other state I forgot above, Montana. I never did hear back from him. I wonder how much he would sell me his Mini...:hehe:

DeCoY 10-21-2020 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by culcune (Post 347847)
Will CO authorities raise red flags if you are riding around with a CO license on a SD plated bike? I do know that California will hassle people which is why most '49 state' bikes are never imported to that state with out-of-state plates with an owner attempting that loophole. I do know that Vermont will issue plates fairly liberally as someone attested to above, and I believe there is one more US state that I cannot remember off the top of my head who plate anything.
This is a great question and I suppose there is really only one way to find out. I'll have to let y'all know my experience once I start riding the bike. I am hoping there isn't too much of an issue, especially since I genuinely wanted to give my money to CO. My long term plan is to try to transfer the plates to CO plates once the SD tags expire... Guess we'll see!

Update: Had a cop follow me for a few miles on a fairly busy residential road yesterday, he did not pull me over for my SD plates so that's a plus!

mike brance 11-16-2020 02:18 PM
What happened to Connecticut?
 
[QUOTE=JerryHawk250;280878]I have no problem with it. :tup: I do need to put them in alphabetical order. I was adding them as I go.[/Q

Joe Schutts 11-16-2020 07:46 PM
Help with the Venom X22R Bike...
 
Hi Jerry,

This list is great news for those people who are considering (or already have bought) a Hawk 250. But my problem is that I am considering buying a Venom X22R here in PA and I have heard (though I'm not sure this is true or not) that the Venom X22R is NOT STREET LEGAL here in PA.

Until I find out one way or another, I'm holding off on buying one of these bikes. I CANNOT AFFORD to waste my money purchasing a bike that I cannot legally drive here in PA.

Therefore, could you please make up a NEW list that covers BOTH the Hawk 250 AND the Venom X22R bike so that hopefully I can find out what the heck is going on here in PA and that hopefully I can get the bike I want and start riding...

Highly frustrated and hopeful...

 Joe...


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JerryHawk250 11-17-2020 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Schutts (Post 349229)
Hi Jerry,

This list is great news for those people who are considering (or already have bought) a Hawk 250. But my problem is that I am considering buying a Venom X22R here in PA and I have heard (though I'm not sure this is true or not) that the Venom X22R is NOT STREET LEGAL here in PA.

Until I find out one way or another, I'm holding off on buying one of these bikes. I CANNOT AFFORD to waste my money purchasing a bike that I cannot legally drive here in PA.

Therefore, could you please make up a NEW list that covers BOTH the Hawk 250 AND the Venom X22R bike so that hopefully I can find out what the heck is going on here in PA and that hopefully I can get the bike I want and start riding...

Highly frustrated and hopeful...

 Joe...


:crazy:
This list may or may not still be good as some states have changed there regulations. You can check with your DMV before buying. The Make is DongFang, model is DF250RTS and the first three letters of the Vin are LXD. Your best luck at getting one of these bike registered is to go to a Notary/Tag shop. They will take the time to help you get it registered as that's how they make money. I've registered all three of my bikes at a Notary/tag shop a block away from my office. All three took between 15-20 minutes to get registered. Non of these bikes were in the system as they were new bikes. The lady took the time to enter it into the system so now anyone else that goes to get their bike registered will have no problems.

wmgeorge 02-17-2022 08:09 PM
Iowa Magician Registration
 
Iowa Magician Registration has anyone registered a 250 in Iowa? Issues?

kyle 02-18-2022 12:15 PM
Going through the same thing for the TBR7.. someone should set up a similar sheet for the hawk: https://tbr7.com/registrations/

Johnetattoo 03-25-2022 09:40 PM
Happy to say that you can now add Mississippi to states that will register ALL versions of the Hawk. I have the 2021 carburetor "Dirtbike" version from Redfox power sports.
MSO and Bill of sale was purchased separately, will not come with this version and bill of sale was not notarized.

The teller couldn't find the motorcycle in the computer, manually added the description of it and gave me a tag.

rlawlgnskite 12-09-2022 10:17 PM
2022 bashan bsr250 (raven 250) successfully registered in colorado

Thumper 12-21-2022 08:42 PM
Reject list to complement the success list
 
Success is great. But the truth is that just because you were successful in a particular State, it doesn't mean the ANYONE will be successful in that State.

Truth is that there are various methods of registration in even the same State, AND some offices will be HOSTILE to Chinese bikes, and others will not.

Heck, even SHIPPERS can be hostile to a crated Chinese bike!!

So a REJECTED list needs to be added.
Members can describe the rejection, rational, what they had or didn't ready for the process. This can answer at least some questions, and warn people where NOT to go!!

JerryHawk250 12-22-2022 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 388379)
Success is great. But the truth is that just because you were successful in a particular State, it doesn't mean the ANYONE will be successful in that State.

Truth is that there are various methods of registration in even the same State, AND some offices will be HOSTILE to Chinese bikes, and others will not.

Heck, even SHIPPERS can be hostile to a crated Chinese bike!!

So a REJECTED list needs to be added.
Members can describe the rejection, rational, what they had or didn't ready for the process. This can answer at least some questions, and warn people where NOT to go!!
You are more than welcome to start that list.

Loraphet 05-03-2023 06:13 PM
well ... not a hawk.. But a successful TBR7 registration in Mass.

RedIce 05-20-2023 01:13 PM
Might be worth updating the OP for Ohio... a handful of the 88 counties require an emissions test. I just successfully registered a new Hawk in an eCheck county without issues. I wasn't required to get an echeck... probably because of the 5 year exception for new vehicles. Just wanted to post as an FYI for others since I didn't see any other information on a HAWK in an Ohio Echeck County.

Jps6562 07-20-2023 01:25 AM
I can confirm that PA title and registration works still. I have gotten the bike fully street legal in Allegheny County as of a week ago.

Thumper 07-20-2023 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 388393)
You are more than welcome to start that list.
Well, I have not had a problem registering in Missouri.

I remember back in 1982 or so I bought a Honda XR250. No turn signals, no horn, no battery, and I had no problem registering it in a rural New Mexico town!!


I don't think that would happen today, but I think that the key is having all of your paperwork in hand. For new bikes, you need the manufacturer's certificate of origin ("MCO"), and it has to show "motorcycle", not dirt bike or off road only.

Insurance is required (presumably every State!). This can be tough with some insurance companies if the brand/manufacturer is not in their database. I had good luck with Geico, but I was ADDING a bike, already had a Suzuki insured with Geico, and no claims on record. I had to read the company name (Wuyi Zumaav for the Templar). And I was only asking for liability/financial responsibility level insurance.

The bill of sale/sales receipt is usually easy.

Many States require proof that your personal property tax is paid, up to date.

Having it all there, and being friendly seems to work. If it is insured and all off the boxes are checked, it makes their life easier.

bigdano711 07-20-2023 12:37 PM
Hope to be adding Wyoming to the list here real soon.

OreoBC 07-25-2023 11:39 PM
You can add Nevada to the list. Simple VIN inspection, and easy paperwork for on road plates.

Fallon Nevada DMV.

rithac 02-15-2024 02:24 PM
Hey guys, I have the title/MCO and am preparing to go the DMV in central Arkansas to get 2 bikes i'm assembling to be registered to be legal on the street. My paperwork list the bike as an "Off Road Motorcycle" I recall seeing a thread on here somewhere where the paper work on the title had to be changed to motorcycle before it could be registered, am I correct to assume that "Off Road Motocycle" would be a problem? If so, what would I ask the dealer to get this corrected.
Is it possible that I could take my existing paperwork to the DMV with "Off Road motorcycle" and hope to be successful?

emptyschmitz above referenced needing the following documents from your dealer to get their registered: Odometer Statement, Bill of Sale and Certificate of Origin... I only have the Certificate of Origin.

Sir kayakalot who is in Arkansas like me referenced he only needed "MCO, proof of insurance and proof of assessment". I was planning to let my kids ride these a year or so around my house or so before allowing them out on the road. Is insurance still necessary in my case? Or is a must to get the bikes registered? I was hoping to hold off on the insurance until they were to be used on the road, but I didn't want to mess up or be penalized by not registering when I received the bikes either.

JerryHawk250 02-15-2024 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rithac (Post 404558)
Hey guys, I have the title/MCO and am preparing to go the DMV in central Arkansas to get 2 bikes i'm assembling to be registered to be legal on the street. My paperwork list the bike as an "Off Road Motorcycle" I recall seeing a thread on here somewhere where the paper work on the title had to be changed to motorcycle before it could be registered, am I correct to assume that "Off Road Motocycle" would be a problem? If so, what would I ask the dealer to get this corrected.
Is it possible that I could take my existing paperwork to the DMV with "Off Road motorcycle" and hope to be successful?

emptyschmitz above referenced needing the following documents from your dealer to get their registered: Odometer Statement, Bill of Sale and Certificate of Origin... I only have the Certificate of Origin.

Sir kayakalot who is in Arkansas like me referenced he only needed "MCO, proof of insurance and proof of assessment". I was planning to let my kids ride these a year or so around my house or so before allowing them out on the road. Is insurance still necessary in my case? Or is a must to get the bikes registered? I was hoping to hold off on the insurance until they were to be used on the road, but I didn't want to mess up or be penalized by not registering when I received the bikes either.
Contact the seller and have them reissue the MCO stating "Motorcycle" That will save you a lot of headaches. You will probably get rejected with it stating
"Off Road Motorcycle"

rithac 02-21-2024 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 404559)
Contact the seller and have them reissue the MCO stating "Motorcycle" That will save you a lot of headaches. You will probably get rejected with it stating
"Off Road Motorcycle"
@jerryhawk250 : Thanks for the advice! I've contacted the seller and they are sending out a correct MCO. Now I just have finish getting them assembled.. I'm close!

Thumper 02-21-2024 04:17 PM
Which seller is this? And please keep us in the loop...It would be great to know which vendors help with this problem. Some of them sell LOTS of ATVs and pitbikes, and those come with off road vehicle type. The Hawk should ship with an MCO stating motorcycle. It is usually just a mistake.

rithac 03-11-2024 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 404763)
Which seller is this? And please keep us in the loop...It would be great to know which vendors help with this problem. Some of them sell LOTS of ATVs and pitbikes, and those come with off road vehicle type. The Hawk should ship with an MCO stating motorcycle. It is usually just a mistake.
Thumper, Seller was powersportsmax.com It took a few emails back and forth and I referenced that we had previously discussed having the MCO issue as Motorcycle and not "off road motorcycle". They confirmed my address and sent out a new one.
Insurance was added today, so I'm planning to get tags this week. My fingers are crossed, but hoping to not have any issues.

Thumper 03-11-2024 07:03 PM
PSM is good about sending a revised MCO. Good news.

What motorcycle did you buy? :hmm:

rithac 03-13-2024 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 405459)
PSM is good about sending a revised MCO. Good news.

What motorcycle did you buy? :hmm:
Thumper, After input from you and several others here I went with 2 of the XPro Templar 250's. One in Blue and one in orange. I've still got some work to to on the blue one dealing with the throttle cable, but they run and my kids are stoked! I'm debating on if I need to get a 3rd one just for myself! :D



https://photos.app.goo.gl/fX8zyqideJX9i8WR7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/wtp1kuGQ4Mwjpoa78

Thumper 03-13-2024 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rithac (Post 405539)
Thumper, After input from you and several others here I went with 2 of the XPro Templar 250's. One in Blue and one in orange. I've still got some work to to on the blue one dealing with the throttle cable, but they run and my kids are stoked! I'm debating on if I need to get a 3rd one just for myself! :D



https://photos.app.goo.gl/fX8zyqideJX9i8WR7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/wtp1kuGQ4Mwjpoa78
Saw yer kid's first ride. OOooo! less throttle! And don't just dump the clutch!

Congrats on your success. Fun bikes. Yes. You DO need one for yourself...But I think you need a TM36 or a TM38!

rithac 03-13-2024 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 405541)
Saw yer kid's first ride. OOooo! less throttle! And don't just dump the clutch!

Congrats on your success. Fun bikes. Yes. You DO need one for yourself...But I think you need a TM36 or a TM38!
Thumper you're gonna get me in trouble with the wife! :D I took a look at the Trailmasters you suggested... Nice! It kinda has me wanting to get one now!

I guess if i'm gonna end up on the couch I may as well have the option of taking a ride on my new motorcycle! :D I'll have to wait till later this fall to see if this is an option.. I'll let you know if I take the leap! Until then i'll just do frequent 'safety checks' on the bikes I got for my kids! lol!

Also, if you listen to the audio on the video I link you can hear me telling my son to take it slow and gentle, and a moment later where I dropped the phone and yelling as I run to check on him! It's always an adventure around my place! :)

ColoradoDlx 05-20-2024 05:48 PM
Colorado success with DLX
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 238377)
Lets see a list of States with confirmed Hawk registration and title. Please only post once stating what State and weather you had success or not and what was required. This tread will help other on making a decision with there purchase of a Hawk. So please do not post about anything else. Thanks in advance. I'll update the list as I receive the information. Just because your state is listed doesn't guarantee you will have the same success. Check with your local DMV before purchasing your Hawk.
1. Alabama- Successful.
2. Arizona- Successful -MCO, bill of sale, visual inspection at the Arizona Motor Vehicles Division
3. Arkansas- Successful
4. Connecticut- Successful
5. Florida- Successful - MCO and Bill of Sale
6. Georgia - Successful. - Varies from county to county, for more info http://www.chinariders.net/showpost.php?p=236337&postcount=74. IMO the Vin Tag Helped
7. Idaho- Successful
8. Illinois- Successful
9. Indiana- Successful
10. Iowa- Successful
11. Kansas- Successful
12. Kentucky- Successful
13. Louisiana- Successful. - Notarized MCO , Bill of Sale & Odometer Disclosure Statement. Proof of Insurance. Notarized MCO and BOS are not required if coming from Non-Notary states. http://web01.dps.louisiana.gov/omv1....1?OpenDocument
14. Maine - Successful
15. Massachusetts- Successful
16. Michigan- Successful.
17. Minnesota- Successful. -MCO, BILL OF SALE, engine number
18. Mississippi -Successful- MSO and non notarized bill of sale only.
19. Missouri Successful
20. Nevada- Successful
21. New Hampshire- Successful - for more info http://chinariders.net/showpost.php?p=216997&postcount=1
22. New Jersey- Successful
23 . New Mexico- Succefull
24. New York- Successful
25. North Carolina- Successful - MCO , Bill of Sale & Proof of Insurance.
26. North Dakota- Successful - MCO and invoice with purchase price
27. Oklahoma- Successful.
28. Ohio- Successful
29. Oregon Successful.
30. Pennsylvania- Successful
31. South Carolina- Successful
32. Texas- Successful.
33 . Tennessee- Successful
34. Utah- Successful
35. Vermont- Successful -Bill Of Sale or Invoice. MCO not needed
36. Virginia- Successful
37. Washington- Successful
38. West Virginia- Successful
39. Wisconsin- Successful
40. Wyoming- Successful
Just registered my 2023 Hawk DLX purchased from Motobuys.com in Colorado with zero issues. She looked at the MCO and BOS, both signed and filled out correctly (except the mileage has to be 1 or greater) asked me the color, took my money and handed me a plate. 10 minutes in and out. Couldn’t have been easier.

JerryHawk250 05-21-2024 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoDlx (Post 408663)
Just registered my 2023 Hawk DLX purchased from Motobuys.com in Colorado with zero issues. She looked at the MCO and BOS, both signed and filled out correctly (except the mileage has to be 1 or greater) asked me the color, took my money and handed me a plate. 10 minutes in and out. Couldn’t have been easier.
THe DXL shouldn't be a problem. It is street legal unlike the standard Hawk.


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