Just started to ponder a thought...If the above motors are based off of the same basic engine design as the XL/XR motor....im wondering if i couldnt use some parts off of them to simply add their more powerful stator to my XL?

Not likely. The stator and side cover design are quite different, due to the electric start clutch.


You certainly could use a Gio motor, since it has a stator that is designed to work with a battery. If it didn't meet your needs, you could swap the stator.

Fair points, it was just a random thought that came to mind. But the idea of using the GIOs engine sounds just as good if not better. Gaining the electric start is just icing on the cake really. The stator should be wired similarly to the XL so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt the Hondas lighting harness to it. As you pointed out i believe bikes like the hawks etc are just modified versions of the XL/XR chassis. So with that said i think you also pointed out i could use the fuel tank from one of the above on my XL.

Now with all of the above said...jumping back to the GIO for a moment...theoretically i could copy the Hondas light harness for at least the headlight and tail light to convert a GIO to an enduro type bike with lights couldn't i?

You probably could. It's much faster and easier to just buy a complete China harness, although that'll take some guidance from HB.

Good to know, wonder if they ever did make a light harness for the Gios..though the rest of the Hondoids are similar enough there may be a simple solution lurking out there.

Just pondering a thought here...Since the TT250 engine is a bolt in...or pretty much should be anyway...i am wondering if CSC can get ahold of the TT250 motors by themselves? May still end up pursuing the GIO route as a donor if that is cost prohibitive.

The costly part will be in getting the motor across the border. An old Gio refugee is much cheaper.

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/TT250-...-p/zt1-100.htm

jb

True enough...seems the new X31s use a Zong engine now. Those ones may not work as they might be the larger 250 you mentioned. But there are tons of the older bike around.

Nice! So it is def a viable option. Of course i would need to fab or buy a harness but that is probably available as a service part for the TT250 as well. Sure this route may get me close to the price of just buying a TT250 outright but would be worth it to be able to restore an old classic Honda but give it the features i like in the TT such as its electrical system.

Show me a pic of the Gio you're talking about, to be sure that we're talking about the same thing. My gut reaction is that it's not actually a 250, but rather the very same motor used in the TT.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA...VxEFv/$_80.JPG

That is the older model

http://www.atvedmonton.com/images/Di...closeups_1.JPG

that is what the current one looks like engine wise

http://www.atvedmonton.com/images/Di...c/Default.aspx Info on the current bike

Should be no problem fitting that into an XR200 frame; it's based on the same architecture. BTW, it's not the same motor as the TT; this one is OHC, whereas the TT is OHV.

Nice! So it should be doable to fab up a hybrid harness between the XL and Gio harness to get all the functions working correctly. Biggest thing i will need to sort out is the electric start.

Easy as pie http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?p=226973
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A switch, a starter solenoid (The commonest chinese m/c parts are rated for 200A), a diode http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17772 (old sckool 6A/400V was recommened in Zongshen Sierra manual) , wires...

Nice! I should have no problems splicing that into the XLs existing harness which allows me to keep the rest of the harness intact for wiring up the lights to the Gio engine.