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mizke 08-03-2010 03:22 AM

hey spud

do you happen to have pictures of the actual repacking process ? i read through your post about what you did but it was a little confusing with out pictures..

btw how much did the sound change ? i noticed you said it got quiter.. thats kind of a turn off for me

loud n proud is my rule.. my mustang has the mufflers cut out of it gotta love a v8 mustang with no mufflers.. so id want my quad to be more on the louder side just not annoyingly loud

SpudRider 08-03-2010 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mizke
hey spud

do you happen to have pictures of the actual repacking process ? i read through your post about what you did but it was a little confusing with out pictures...

No, I don't have photos of the repacking process. However, you wrap the packing material around the muffler as shown in the following video at the 1:43 time mark. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNxKO...layer_embedded

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Originally Posted by mizke
btw how much did the sound change ? i noticed you said it got quiter.. thats kind of a turn off for me

loud n proud is my rule.. my mustang has the mufflers cut out of it gotta love a v8 mustang with no mufflers.. so id want my quad to be more on the louder side just not annoyingly loud

Please don't ride in my neighborhood! :lol: The FMF Universal Spark Arrestor is definitely louder than the stock, Zongshen muffler. However, the sound is not annoying, and this silencer has U.S.F.S. approval for quietness. :)

Spud :)

mizke 08-03-2010 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider
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Originally Posted by mizke
hey spud

do you happen to have pictures of the actual repacking process ? i read through your post about what you did but it was a little confusing with out pictures...

No, I don't have photos of the repacking process. However, you wrap the packing material around the muffler as shown in the following video at the 1:43 time mark. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNxKO...layer_embedded

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Originally Posted by mizke
btw how much did the sound change ? i noticed you said it got quiter.. thats kind of a turn off for me

loud n proud is my rule.. my mustang has the mufflers cut out of it gotta love a v8 mustang with no mufflers.. so id want my quad to be more on the louder side just not annoyingly loud

Please don't ride in my neighborhood! :lol: The FMF Universal Spark Arrestor is definitely louder than the stock, Zongshen muffler. However, the sound is not annoying, and this silencer has U.S.F.S. approval for quietness. :)

Spud :)

im very respectful of other people where i live, if i want something to eat after 10pm i ride my bike. i wont start my car unless i really have to once it gets late. even tho most i push it out of the drive and one house down the street is the main road so i start it up at the stop sign.. if i come home really late i will put it in N and coast into the drive way

Weldangrind 08-03-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider
...the sound is not annoying, and this silencer has U.S.F.S. approval for quietness. :)

Does the USFS stamp only refer to noise volume? I thought it was a reference to a proper spark arrestor.

anthonyfa18 08-03-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mizke
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...65230247891856

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...64376353862116

the 2nd one is a powercore 2 smae one as me, just a different tip, or maybe it does not have the cover over the tip in that picture.

he also has some fmf turbine core 2 pipes for 134ish usd

here is the other type he has, this is for a YAMAHA YZ125 PRO CIRCUIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMAH...Q5fAccessories

THANKS FOR THE LINK but i wish fmf makes a carbon muffler

mizke 08-03-2010 12:02 PM

double post

SpudRider 08-03-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mizke
...im very respectful of other people where i live, if i want something to eat after 10pm i ride my bike. i wont start my car unless i really have to once it gets late. even tho most i push it out of the drive and one house down the street is the main road so i start it up at the stop sign.. if i come home really late i will put it in N and coast into the drive way

I'm very glad to hear you respect the peace, and quiet of others. :) So many people are disrespectful of others these days; we have a real problem with excess noise in my neighborhood. :(

Spud :)

SpudRider 08-03-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind
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Originally Posted by SpudRider
...the sound is not annoying, and this silencer has U.S.F.S. approval for quietness. :)

Does the USFS stamp only refer to noise volume? I thought it was a reference to a proper spark arrestor.

The stamp on the canister only states the silencer contains a U.S.F.S. approved spark arrestor. However, the FMF Universal Spark Arrestor also meets U.S.F.S. sound level restrictions. :)

Spud :)

mizke 08-03-2010 12:33 PM

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy79/mizke/dg2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy79/mizke/dg1.jpg

anthonyfa18 08-03-2010 06:43 PM

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i really want to see and heir that fmf muffler, because my 125cc dirtbike muffler is starting brake in that back so i was looking in to a fmf or Yoshimura Exhaust rs2 carbon fiber like this http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

You can buy the FMF Universal Spark Arrestor for a little over $100 USD, delivered. I really enjoy my FMF silencer, and it is very easy to repack. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...ftStand006.jpg

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=10279

Spud :)

hey by the way do you have a sound clip of your bike

Weldangrind 08-03-2010 08:33 PM

X2! I'd love to hear your Zong.

mizke 08-04-2010 05:08 PM

anthony

dont know if this will be to small but i came across it when i was looking around for new fmf stickers for my muffler and repacking stuff..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamah...item45f4603450

anthonyfa18 08-04-2010 05:57 PM

thanks mizke but what sux it is ship only to usa i am in canada. i thing the size is good but i am looking more for a muffler with carbon fiber in it.


:twisted: UPDATE :twisted:

i finally won my shocks on giobikes.com and i they are all ready shipped, i had pic express shipping so i should get my shock tomorrow or Friday just in time for the weekend to try them out .

mizke 08-04-2010 06:13 PM

damn good deal, im jealous.. i want new shocks, but got to deal with this exhaust stuff.. i was up last looking at videos for the sound of it. but man people dont realize when you do exhaust sound videos.. the exhaust has 2 different sounds.. if you sit there and video it idling and revving it sounds one way, but the real sound is what it sounds like when there is a load placed on the motor.. wish more people woud include a video of them driving the atv then every one else would know what the exhaust truely sounds like..

i dont think you are going to find any cf name brand mufflers.. i know the auto parts stores around my town sell carbon fiber wrap.. dont think i a muffler would get hot enough to burn it off. but you could just wrap it your self..

mizke 08-04-2010 06:16 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HMF-S...ts_Accessories

its a hmf powder coated black muffler.. it looks clean as hell.. but it is pricey..

but like i said above, you could buy some carbon fiber wrap and if you take your time you can wrap the muffler and have it look really good. esp round mufflers, they would be the easiest ones to wrap

anthonyfa18 08-04-2010 06:50 PM

i want a Yoshimura here are 2 links and there are carbon fiber

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

or mabe this but it is not carbon fiber

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

and if i want fmf i found this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

tell me what u thing

mizke 08-04-2010 07:07 PM

i like the looks of the fist 2, but the can it self seems to be on the short side.. might look a little odd..

this video is the fmf power core 4, i am getting the 2 stroke version of it so its called the power core 2.. but should sound something like this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgVqh...eature=related

mizke 08-05-2010 09:25 PM

well i had hoped to get my fmf pipe this weekend, but it seems the postal service is a tad bit retarded.. the pipe shipped out of mesa arizona, i checked the tracking number today since it was shipped yesterday.. they sent it to bell, ca and now its on its way to texas, wtf ? they sent it 447ish miles the wrong direction to a sorting facility just to turn around and send it back through arizona then to texas..

anthonyfa18 08-06-2010 11:13 AM

:twisted: Update :twisted:

look what came in the mail yesterday

http://a.imageshack.us/img828/1154/img0697k.th.jpg

new gio air shock

i was happy that the shipping was fast and how the shock look but i am a littel worried about them. as i was getting them ready to bring up north to install on my beast, i went to check the the air pressure one of the shock readed 0 psi and the other read 24 psi. so i remove the little valve and found that it was jammed, so i replaced and now it works, then on the second shock as i lowed the psi the SAME thing happened. i fix it and now bought shock are at 8 pis each. should i tell GIO that i got 2 defected shocks??

waynev 08-06-2010 12:17 PM

Don't worry about them not holding pressure, i've got 3 pairs of them and they all leak out eventually, but they still work 200% better than the stockers, when i'm at my buddies i usually use his nitrogen tank to fill them to 120psi, the best pair after 1.5 weeks will be back at 0.

anthonyfa18 08-06-2010 01:45 PM

but should i tell gio about it

mizke 08-06-2010 02:25 PM

yup

waynev 08-06-2010 02:51 PM

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but should i tell gio about it

Did you charge them up to around 100psi and then see if it will hold that pressure?

They may offer you another set for a small fee plus shipping, but really you'll probably end up with the same thing you already have, these shocks work soooooo much better than stock even without the adjustable compression dampning, so just bolt on them and run em'.

mizke 08-06-2010 03:02 PM

i thought that shocks use fluid and not air. why do these ? are all atv shocks like these and use air

waynev 08-06-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mizke
i thought that shocks use fluid and not air. why do these ? are all atv shocks like these and use air

These shocks have a nitrogen filled "air bag" so you can adjust the compression dampning by adjusting the amount of nitrogen pressure in them, like i said my first pair was bad, payed GIO more to get a new set, the new set didn't leak as fast but they still did, then i got one of the new sets gold shock/black spring like the ones in the pic above, these held pressure the longest but eventually it leaks out, but they work so much better than stock that i don't even check the pressure anymore, they are just fine for me on my Beast.

anthonyfa18 08-08-2010 10:26 PM

:twisted: update :twisted:

just got back from up north, and i must say the gio air shock are a MUST the are so much better then stock. the sad news was i lost 2 bolt (tie-rod and rear swing arm) so it cut my ride short, most of the time i bring some spar bolts with me but i forgot this weekend.

mizke 08-08-2010 10:28 PM

that sucks dude, sorry to hear it..

anthonyfa18 08-09-2010 10:58 PM

:twisted: update :twisted:

i fix my 125cc carbon exhaust today, i drilled out my 3 rives and tap to fit 6x16 mm bolts so now, now let hope it last till fall. also i am working on a big video about my beast and me driving.

anthonyfa18 08-11-2010 07:48 PM

:twisted: update :twisted:

here is my new video tell me what u thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxiYqkod3S0

TurboT 08-11-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by anthonyfa18
:twisted: update :twisted:

here is my new video tell me what u thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxiYqkod3S0

Nice afterburner. Don't burn down the forests.

Yours sounds like mine did with the 125cc pipe I had on mine that blew apart in the middle of a ride.

Your headlight seems quite bright.

Did you put the ads along the bottom or does youtube do that automatically?

MICRider 08-11-2010 09:03 PM

Sweet! I liked the music and transitions! Looks like you are getting some good use out of your Beast. I really like those Zongshen engines, once you get em dialed in they purr. What did you use to make the clip, was it Windows Moviemaker?

Cheers,
Stew

mizke 08-11-2010 09:03 PM

sounds good but lets hear some runs in it. run it 1st through 4th, also becareful revving it nonstop like you did.. with out the revv limiter cuz the cdi removes that.. you could be spinning that top end faster then what it can handle..

like in a car when you want to run past the stock redline, you have to do strong valve's, stiffer valve springs, and some bottem end work does not hurt.. also unless you have a cam ment to run that high you are not making any power up there..

what happens is you get whats called valve float, and mister valve head ends up butting heads with the face of mister piston.. mister piston always wins but gets mangled and the valve head typically snapps

anthonyfa18 08-11-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboT
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Originally Posted by anthonyfa18
:twisted: update :twisted:

here is my new video tell me what u thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxiYqkod3S0

Nice afterburner. Don't burn down the forests.

Yours sounds like mine did with the 125cc pipe I had on mine that blew apart in the middle of a ride.

Your headlight seems quite bright.

Did you put the ads along the bottom or does youtube do that automatically?

my headlight is stock, and muffler started to blow so i drilled out the 3 rivids and took my tap and put some 6x16mm bolts and i will be test it out next time i go up north.

yes i used windows movie maker

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Originally Posted by mizke
sounds good but lets hear some runs in it. run it 1st through 4th, also becareful revving it nonstop like you did.. with out the revv limiter cuz the cdi removes that.. you could be spinning that top end faster then what it can handle..

like in a car when you want to run past the stock redline, you have to do strong valve's, stiffer valve springs, and some bottem end work does not hurt.. also unless you have a cam ment to run that high you are not making any power up there..

what happens is you get whats called valve float, and mister valve head ends up butting heads with the face of mister piston.. mister piston always wins but gets mangled and the valve head typically snapps

lol even with the race cdi u have a cut off. you can hear the cut off on the video.

waynev 08-12-2010 08:29 AM

It sounds like it time to increase the main jet, flames out of the exhuast may look cool but that's a tell tale sign of being too lean, also when you rev it up you can hear it breaking up at higher rpms, it needs more fuel on the top end, other than that, cool vid and nice editing.

anthonyfa18 08-12-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by waynev
It sounds like it time to increase the main jet, flames out of the exhuast may look cool but that's a tell tale sign of being too lean, also when you rev it up you can hear it breaking up at higher rpms, it needs more fuel on the top end, other than that, cool vid and nice editing.

well i wont be rejeting my carb any time soon because if all goes well i am getting a 250cc 30mm gy6 carb and a 250cc engine. and ya at high rpm it is missing a bit but when i pull out my spark plug it looks perfect. it is a lite brown tan.

mizke 08-12-2010 11:04 PM

well whatever you do, dont touch the needle.. my issues after the exhaust in still was cuz i raised the needle up one notch.. now it runs perfect since putting it back to center.. but am going to throw in the 90 jet and see if i can squeeze a little more power out of it, cuz right now it has the 92.5 jet in it..

btw you should go ahead and jet it, cuz if you dont get the motor you wouldnt want this one to blow on you... also you might have to go rejet the new motor neways and your going to want good air fuel ratio's during the break in period..

anthonyfa18 08-14-2010 01:52 AM

like i said i am getting a new 30mm carb for my 250 motor so i dont want to rejet my carb.

mizke 08-14-2010 02:04 AM

well good deal then, im just going to keep my eyes open for a honda, yamaha 250 or 250r motor.. maybe even a 300ex or 400ex or 450r motor depending on price..

anthonyfa18 08-15-2010 03:26 PM

lol but i don't thing our frame will hold the power of a 450cc motor

mizke 08-15-2010 03:38 PM

idk about your frame, but mine is pretty strong, also the welds are good..

i found a trx450r motor on ebay for 1700.. its missing the clutch and stator, carb, exhuast.. and it looks clean as hell.. if i had the money to burn i would buy it..


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