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humanbeing 07-12-2011 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider
It's terrible that drug users become thieves, and will steal the carburetor from a rider's parked motorcycle.

Some chinese junkie thief are bikers too. They works as team , the "pillion" will snatch bags in urban area/ catch pet dog in rural villages (Country folks respect animal rights : No chain + let them wardens everywhere) & sold to restaurant. :twisted:

SpudRider 07-13-2011 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing
Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider
It's terrible that drug users become thieves, and will steal the carburetor from a rider's parked motorcycle.

Some chinese junkie thief are bikers too. They works as team , the "pillion" will snatch bags in urban area/ catch pet dog in rural villages (Country folks respect animal rights : No chain + let them wardens everywhere) & sold to restaurant. :twisted:

Wow! 8O Drug addiction is a terrible thing; it not only harms the addict, it harms the people from whom he steals. :(

Spud :(

humanbeing 07-13-2011 06:28 AM

Found a faster solution to translate it :) cut & paste "suitable" text from CG125 storm S/M which this YG colored 80+% similar to Honda.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider
Wow! 8O Drug addiction is a terrible thing; it not only harms the addict, it harms the people from whom he steals. :(
Spud :(

Stories ABOVE are 100% true as it's recorded on paper finally:
http://www.maoming.gd.cn/news/AWXAwaVobmz5gaj7.html B4 90s, villagers in my hometown will do the same thing. It's in our blood (we're in same main dialect group), Clan = Honour , if ANYone dares... ie. outsiders better behave themself.
http://ngdsb.hinews.cn/html/2011-06/...ent_368365.htm
Generally speaking mainland China is quite safe : "firearm" not often on criminal's hand BUT watchout all the risks when visits there.

jaxtell 07-13-2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing
Found a faster solution to translate it :) cut & paste "suitable" text from CG125 storm S/M which this YG colored 80+% similar to Honda.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider
Wow! 8O Drug addiction is a terrible thing; it not only harms the addict, it harms the people from whom he steals. :(
Spud :(

Stories ABOVE are 100% true as it's recorded on paper finally:
http://www.maoming.gd.cn/news/AWXAwaVobmz5gaj7.html B4 90s, villagers in my hometown will do the same thing. It's in our blood (we're in same main dialect group), Clan = Honour , if ANYone dares... ie. outsiders better behave themself.
http://ngdsb.hinews.cn/html/2011-06/...ent_368365.htm
Generally speaking mainland China is quite safe : "firearm" not often on criminal's hand BUT watchout all the risks when visits there.

Thanks for the help. I found one and it is in color, too!

I think I have the idle set correctly now.
I still have to address the Speedo and the Tach.
I will try to find a battery strap locally, if possible.

I did try out the engine guards yesterday accidentally. I had the bike idling and the side stand down, went and moved my wife's car and when I turned around, I noticed it moving forward slowly. As I ran toward it, it laid on its side. It hit the hand guard, the engine guard and the rear foot rest. No damage anywhere else. Minor scratches only (easy touch up).

Love the way this thing rides. It does look very similar to the Honda CG125.

Oengus 07-17-2011 11:36 PM

here is a link to a vendor that sells that gauge cluster.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/40...nufacture.html

It has some specs that you may or may not be able to wrap your head around.

Hope that helps, maybe you can get some info from them or the vendor?
Its a good looking gauge set, it looks very much like the gauges on actual Honda models like the VTR250.

That company that makes those motorcycles cranks them out, the gauges may not be properly attached/installed and as the speed and vibration increase you may be getting signal attenuation and variation from what is not secured.

I'd like to see you resolve that, because its kind of a deal breaker for me and others if it cannot be resolved.

You may want to get the emissions devices off the bike, they are budget bikes and what ever they put on it is probably not very well made.

I would take the exhaust off from the manifold, sand the pipe and paint it with heat resistant flat black paint. I would cut off the muffler and replace the can with the same style but unrestricted and flat black.

you can get those cheap through Taobao, search on 消声器 CG125 and you will find them. Then use Taobao Focus to order what you want.

jaxtell 07-18-2011 09:42 AM

I'm certain it is just a loose wire, just haven't had time to take it off and check.

I did get some saddle bags from Walmart this weekend. I'll post pics tonight. The look really good on the bike. When I was mounting them, I had to take the seat off. Found a wrong bole on the seat mount and a had a missing bolt on the right side rack mount. Put metric bolts in both, problem solved.

As for the exhaust, I found a post of a "regular" dual sport, where they opened up the muffler and de-restrcited it, then re-jetted the carb. I may give that a shot. I would love to paint the muffler flat black, if I knew it would stick!

It's funny, in the owner's manual I posted, the exhaust is black with w/ chrome heat shield (looks much better).

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_...52520Black.jpg

humanbeing 07-18-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oengus
I would take the exhaust off from the manifold, sand the pipe and paint it with heat resistant flat black paint. I would cut off the muffler and replace the can with the same style but unrestricted and flat black.

you can get those cheap through Taobao, search on 消声器 CG125 and you will find them. Then use Taobao Focus to order what you want.

CG125 had little difference from this bike. That YG's style are often called as "Wuyang" in China / CGL125 in S.America & Africa / GL145 in Asia @ 80s
It's HARD to find muffler (100% stainless steel / http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=6074971133 ) ONLY in TB for this style because "whole" unrestricted genuine part is very afforable :lol: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=7890092395 | Why not try next door (Mexico) ? That style are very common :D

Oengus 07-18-2011 10:17 PM

The exhaust is very common, he actually would rather have black, not chrome, like in this image.

http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk...es-2/SL100.jpg

The mounting point to the frame is what matters, that and that it is unrestricted.

katoranger 07-19-2011 09:58 AM

I think I have seen honda repo exhaust like that on ebay. I would look for a cb125 exhaust.

Oengus 07-19-2011 10:19 AM

The price of the new exhaust on Taobao is $20.00, the second link that HB posted. The whole exhaust!

Use this site to convert currency….http://www.xe.com/ucc/
And then if want to order use this site to place the order.
http://taobaofocus.com/

There are other sites you can also use Taobao Focus is not the only one.

Human Being offering searches in Chinese on Taobao is very kind of him.

If he sets up a search service would you pay him? How much is a search worth?

He could set up a paypal account and collect fees for searches. That man can likely find anything you could ever want.

Oengus 07-19-2011 10:36 AM

That little Honda to me is just a frame that has a legal title.
It could get a 223cc engine and it could get the electric starter and full instrumentation as well. Street tires, it even could get a different triple tree and front forks, new handle bars and a front disk brake.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=7679914593

The parts to do that are all on Taobao, its just really hard to find them.

The SL100 can take a 200cc Lifan engine, if so then it also may be able to hold the 223cc Loncin engine as well. Then it just a matter of rewiring it.

humanbeing 07-19-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Oengus
That little Honda to me is just a frame that has a legal title.
It could get a 223cc ...

:oops: "Small" parts ONLY are worth ship directly from it's motherland
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the highest quality MD33e clone is made by Jialing http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10843575109 NOT loncin
If had chance got a "cheap" beated-up 223 machine / this kit worth to invest : http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10236432912

Oengus 07-21-2011 02:24 AM

That engine would cost about $900.00 shipped to the USA…I just checked, I did not think it would be that much? That’s if it is 80lbs wonder what it actually does weigh?

So much for that idea…..

The engine is only $300.00 the freight is about $600.00
http://taobaofocus.com/order/shipping-fees-from-china

humanbeing 07-21-2011 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus
That engine would cost about $900.00 shipped to the USA…I just checked, I did not think it would be that much? That’s if it is 80lbs wonder what it actually does weigh?

So much for that idea…..

The engine is only $300.00 the freight is about $600.00
http://taobaofocus.com/order/shipping-fees-from-china

Ship by agent that offer door-2-door sea service (the "norm" in some small business) saves $$$ BUT that Engine won't 100% guaranteed in ur hand as it f###s EPA law. Postal service sucks BiG money for ANY >4 kg item :?

jaxtell 07-21-2011 05:49 AM

As promised, but late, here are the pictures with my new $40 Walmart saddlebags (they also have built-in rain covers, that I'll get pics of later):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t...0/IMG_1554.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/IMG_1556.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...0/IMG_1555.JPG

Oengus 07-21-2011 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus
That engine would cost about $900.00 shipped to the USA…I just checked, I did not think it would be that much? That’s if it is 80lbs wonder what it actually does weigh?

So much for that idea…..

The engine is only $300.00 the freight is about $600.00
http://taobaofocus.com/order/shipping-fees-from-china

Ship by agent that offer door-2-door sea service (the "norm" in some small business) saves $$$ BUT that Engine won't 100% guaranteed in ur hand as it f###s EPA law. Postal service sucks BiG money for ANY >4 kg item :?

I am not going to buy one…its not worth the trouble or costs.

I came across a good deal on an old SL100 and toyed with the idea.

I like the gauges on the YG200 thought that a bigger engine with an electric starter…it be a project.

It would be better to just buy the YG200.

jaxtell 07-21-2011 10:39 AM

Update on Certificate of Origin: still not in my hands. Still playing nice, but my 30 Days to get a tag in Georgia is quickly approaching, and no definite answer as of yet.

Update on Speedometer and Tach: still not working. Talked with Gene at http://www.motosportsparts.com/s.nl/sc.19/.f he is trying to see if he can get a new cluster.

Have roughly 200 miles on the bike from riding back and forth to work. Still enjoy the ride. Love the new saddle bags. Got the the carb/choke worked out. Thinking about some different sprockets, geared a little too low for the road.

SpudRider 07-21-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxtell
Update on Certificate of Origin: still not in my hands. Still playing nice, but my 30 Days to get a tag in Georgia is quickly approaching, and no definite answer as of yet.

Update on Speedometer and Tach: still not working. Talked with Gene at http://www.motosportsparts.com/s.nl/sc.19/.f he is trying to see if he can get a new cluster.

Have roughly 200 miles on the bike from riding back and forth to work. Still enjoy the ride. Love the new saddle bags. Got the the carb/choke worked out. Thinking about some different sprockets, geared a little too low for the road.

Thanks for the update! :) I can't understand why you are having such trouble getting an MSO. :roll: What is your dealer telling you regarding this problem?

Spud :)

Oengus 07-21-2011 12:22 PM

If you cannot get a new tachometer then here is one on Taobao.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=8310222693

It is 40 Chinese that $6.50 American since it only weighs a couple of pounds it be not too much to ship it. Maybe $35.00?

jaxtell 07-21-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxtell
Update on Certificate of Origin: still not in my hands. Still playing nice, but my 30 Days to get a tag in Georgia is quickly approaching, and no definite answer as of yet.

Update on Speedometer and Tach: still not working. Talked with Gene at http://www.motosportsparts.com/s.nl/sc.19/.f he is trying to see if he can get a new cluster.

Have roughly 200 miles on the bike from riding back and forth to work. Still enjoy the ride. Love the new saddle bags. Got the the carb/choke worked out. Thinking about some different sprockets, geared a little too low for the road.

Thanks for the update! :) I can't understand why you are having such trouble getting an MSO. :roll: What is your dealer telling you regarding this problem?

Spud :)

Here's the (long) story:
Had the bike shipped to my work, @ the same time they mailed the MSO. 3 days after the bike came in, I called and talked with the salesman. He assured me that he mailed (which I believe) it and asked for a few more days. Since, in Ga, I could get insurance and had a 30 day grace period for the tag. I did so.

These few more days went by and, I again called and talked with the salesman, this time requesting a NEW MSO be sent out (after all, the mail should have all ready been in my hand). He informed me that the MSO person no longer worked there to notarize the MSO, so he would try to work around it, give him a couple more days, so I did.

A couple more days, and then I requested to have someone outside notarize the MSO and I would pay for it AND pay to have UPS of FedEx deliver it to my house. He said he would have to get the owner (of Massimo) to okay this.

Didn't happen. He then said he was going to apply for a notary license and should have it by the end of the week. He never got the papers from the state of Texas. He said he would get it done outside and UPS it, but he would have to get the permission of the owner (of Massimo).

Which brings us to today (grounhdog day). Owner is out, need his permission. Papers have not shown up (to certify the salesman as a notary). AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!

EBAY gives 90 days for them to get the MSO in my hands, I hope I don't have to go through the Buyer Protection.

I believe his intentions are good, but I'm not seeing any results! :roll:

I really like the bike! I just want to get it done, so I can put a tag on it.

PS the salesman has always kept the communication open and has been professional and courteous.

jaxtell 07-21-2011 02:47 PM

First fill up after driving, had 300 kilometers on the clock (that hasn't read correctly), put in 3.2 gallons of premium. That's 186 miles divided by 3.2 = 58.125 MPG. Since the Speedo isn't always accurate (above 60 KPH it begins to regress), I figure I may be closer to 65 MPG on the first tank.

SATISFIED :D
(with gas mileage)

katoranger 07-22-2011 09:48 AM

I like those saddlebags. You got them from walmart? I may get a set for my scooter.

jaxtell 07-22-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by katoranger
I like those saddlebags. You got them from walmart? I may get a set for my scooter.

Yes, odd as it seems. $40, not all Walmarts carry them (we have 2 in our town; one does, one does not).
They have several straps to mount in a variety of ways.
They have a pocket on the outside, one on the inside of the top and one next to the bike that houses the rain cover, which is retained by a strap.

jaxtell 07-22-2011 10:03 AM

Update on Certificate of Origin:
Noticed in my summary page on Ebay that today is the last day for me to file a Request for reimbursement through Ebay (all though the seller has 90 days to supply the Certificate of Origin, you must file by the 30 Day time limit).

An Ebay advisor had me file the complaint, so I did and noted that I would prefer to keep the bike and resolve the MSO problem. I also noted the seller had been in constant contact with me, but with out any resolution to the problem.

I'll keep you posted...

SpudRider 07-22-2011 10:33 AM

I think you were wise to file the complaint, Jax. ;) It shouldn't take this long to get an MSO. :roll: Perhaps the dealer will now get the issue resolved for you. :)

Spud :)

jaxtell 07-22-2011 02:26 PM

Momentary Bliss:
I was riding back to work on the highway, my Speedo read 90 KPH (55 MPH) and my tach jumped back to life. 30 seconds, it lasted.

hahahah!

FastDoc 07-22-2011 03:03 PM

I've had my BSA start on the first kick. Anything can happen! :roll:

Oengus 07-23-2011 04:00 PM

I think you have loose or just crappy connectors, I think if I was you I would try to get a spare wiring harness with a spare gauge cluster. It would be good just to sit down and tag everything and then trace it all out.

You may be able to replace the cheap connectors with better quality ones, the wiring diagram and its color codes would make that easier. You can get marine quality connectors for each side of every connection, they would be water tight and certainly better then what is on the bike I suspect.

The speedometer is 100% mechanical and part of that is on the front hub, you can replace the cable with one of better quality maybe, make sure it is lubricated and routed correctly, the ends have to be decent that being the actual speedometer and sending unit on the hub.

Here is the thing if it was not connected well at the factory then it may have done damage to the ends that spin, if not seated well they could be damaged the connects. Not attached right and spinning can cause wear and then it never sits right and never works right.

They are thrown together all the Chinese bikes are, not tightened correctly and sometimes over tightened.

I like the looks of the gauges and that it has everything, many of the bikes do not even get a tachometer and keep in mind there is a sending end on the engine, its not working and is a moving part, it could come off?

If the bike went through a dealer, then all these things would have been traced and if the mechanic could not fix them that would be because it was a inferior design or configuration? It maybe that or not…but just riding it will not make that determination easier, it will make it more difficult over time. If you have bad connectors they can arch and take out other things?

Trouble shoot the bike Jaxtell.

People are all so honest about their experiences, but not so honest about their actual abilities as mechanics?

Identify and solve and then post? If not then do not expect to have others buy in and in that share with you, you will be the end of the line, nobody else will buy one.

It is what it is, the first person to get one should be an actual mechanic, these people that sell them should pay mechanics to support the bikes, but they need to actually get on them and test them and then address and document the solutions.

You use the word professional when describing what seem totally amateur.

The bike has some issues and it needs a solution set…if you define it then source it and then sell it on this site.

Yingang could set up a taobao site and pay HB to work it though a English interface on this site. They can see what is working and what is not. They are working to get into the market and it is all a learning process.

I would like to know if Jaxtell from Warner Robbins is aware of http://www.extreme-scooters.com/motorcyclestore.htm its not that big a town is it? Or is that just another irony?

jaxtell 07-25-2011 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus
I think you have loose or just crappy connectors, I think if I was you I would try to get a spare wiring harness with a spare gauge cluster. It would be good just to sit down and tag everything and then trace it all out.

You may be able to replace the cheap connectors with better quality ones, the wiring diagram and its color codes would make that easier. You can get marine quality connectors for each side of every connection, they would be water tight and certainly better then what is on the bike I suspect.

The speedometer is 100% mechanical and part of that is on the front hub, you can replace the cable with one of better quality maybe, make sure it is lubricated and routed correctly, the ends have to be decent that being the actual speedometer and sending unit on the hub.

Here is the thing if it was not connected well at the factory then it may have done damage to the ends that spin, if not seated well they could be damaged the connects. Not attached right and spinning can cause wear and then it never sits right and never works right.

They are thrown together all the Chinese bikes are, not tightened correctly and sometimes over tightened.

I like the looks of the gauges and that it has everything, many of the bikes do not even get a tachometer and keep in mind there is a sending end on the engine, its not working and is a moving part, it could come off?

If the bike went through a dealer, then all these things would have been traced and if the mechanic could not fix them that would be because it was a inferior design or configuration? It maybe that or not…but just riding it will not make that determination easier, it will make it more difficult over time. If you have bad connectors they can arch and take out other things?

Trouble shoot the bike Jaxtell.

People are all so honest about their experiences, but not so honest about their actual abilities as mechanics?

Identify and solve and then post? If not then do not expect to have others buy in and in that share with you, you will be the end of the line, nobody else will buy one.

It is what it is, the first person to get one should be an actual mechanic, these people that sell them should pay mechanics to support the bikes, but they need to actually get on them and test them and then address and document the solutions.

You use the word professional when describing what seem totally amateur.

The bike has some issues and it needs a solution set…if you define it then source it and then sell it on this site.

Yingang could set up a taobao site and pay HB to work it though a English interface on this site. They can see what is working and what is not. They are working to get into the market and it is all a learning process.

I would like to know if Jaxtell from Warner Robbins is aware of http://www.extreme-scooters.com/motorcyclestore.htm its not that big a town is it? Or is that just another irony?

Thanks for the input, I'll keep that in mind. While I am not a "professional" mechanic, I have been turning wrenches as a hobby for a number of years.

I am aware the Speedo is fully mechanical. I have checked and lubed the cable and while it is doing better with each ride. The tach is still not dependable (since it is still under warranty, I have not taken it apart). The dealer, Massimo, is going to supply me wit a new cluster. I think the tach is probably a loose ground connector. I have not traced the entire harness, because only the tach is not working.

As I have stated earlier, the bike is really nice, with only the exceptions noted. I will post all fixes as I get them completed.

Aside from the MSO issue, the cluster issue, the battery strap & vent. Everything on the bike has worked as expected.

:D

PS Warner Robins is not a big town, I'll look these guys up:
http://www.extreme-scooters.com/motorcyclestore.htm

Still planning on getting something for my wife, so we can ride after I get this on squared away! Thanks for the tip.

jaxtell 07-25-2011 11:09 AM

Update on Certificate of Origin: Talked to the salesman @ Massimo, mailed it out Friday, should have it this week!

Oengus 07-25-2011 12:31 PM

I’ll be looking forward to your posts, I am glad somebody bought one the price is good. Its unusual looking you cannot get bikes that look like that anywhere else.

If he mailed the MSO Friday you should get it today or tomorrow at the latest.

They are advertising the bike on cycle trader, you got yours for $1,500.00 including delivery?

http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2...SSIMO-98905522

jaxtell 07-25-2011 01:13 PM

Yes, $1500 including shipping.

I would wait and make sure the MSO issue gets done okay.

I can give you their ebay username, if you are interested. (I don't think there would be a rule against posting it here?)

If you are buying multiples, there is a different sales person. Multiple purchases are not handled through ebay.

Oengus 07-25-2011 11:50 PM

You can post it on here they should not mind, they want more people buying, reporting and troubleshooting the bikes.

That’s decent price….

SpudRider 07-26-2011 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxtell
Update on Certificate of Origin: Talked to the salesman @ Massimo, mailed it out Friday, should have it this week!

That's wonderful news, Jax! Please continue to keep us updated regarding your efforts to register, and get a license plate for your bike. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider 07-26-2011 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxtell
Yes, $1500 including shipping.

I would wait and make sure the MSO issue gets done okay.

I can give you their ebay username, if you are interested. (I don't think there would be a rule against posting it here?)

If you are buying multiples, there is a different sales person. Multiple purchases are not handled through ebay.

We don't mind if you post the vendor's eBay username, Jax. :)

Spud :)

jaxtell 07-26-2011 08:52 AM

The Ebay username is Motosportsparts, if something you want is not listed, you can contact them through Ebay and they will list the item in an auction for you with a Buy It Now price (that is how they did mine).

jaxtell 07-27-2011 07:44 AM

Got the MSO :D , today I'll be off to the tag office......

Oengus 07-27-2011 11:54 AM

You must be relieved....finally.

jaxtell 07-27-2011 12:36 PM

Get the TAG, round one.

1. Went by the tag office, they looked over all my paperwork and said I had to get a VIN inspection.

2. Called the number they gave, they instructed me to go to police station in Warner Robins. Officer seemed surprised they ask me to come there. He began the inspection but hit a snag when he tried to verify the VIN number; the manufacturer did not exist (in GA's computers), so they could not validate the VIN.

3. Called Massimo, they are checking into the registration and why it did not show up.

4. The form has highlighted NHSTA Certification Label __yes __no. No idea what this is or of will have any bearing after we resolve the VIN issue.

katoranger 07-27-2011 12:56 PM

Ask if they have "other" in the computer.


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