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fishman10 11-20-2014 05:37 PM

zong deposit
 
Thanks spud,,,im officially over the hill now!

Wolftrax 11-20-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fishman10 (Post 175626)
csc called today an i put my $500 down,,,,an on my birthday too!!

So if they are taking deposits does that mean the certification process is complete ? Happy Birthday Fish!

SpudRider 11-20-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fishman10 (Post 175628)
Thanks spud,,,im officially over the hill now!

I'm sure I am much older than you, so I am frightened to ask what age you consider 'officially over the hill.'

:hehe:

CSCDude 11-21-2014 12:11 AM

Hi guys. Joe from CSC here.

Thanks for your continuing interest in us.

Here are two or three inputs:

We are not rebadging the bike. We are proud of the fact that it is a Zongshen. It's a first-class motorcycle from a first-class company, and we wouldn't present it as anything other than what it is.

We are indeed the company that will be bringing the RX-3 to Canada. The process is well underway and we expect to be selling in Canada within the next couple of months.

I put a few miles on the RX-3 today on the freeway, and then on a pretty gnarly local goat trail. You folks on Chinariders.net are seeing these videos first....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q-p...ature=youtu.be


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zXp9qAVHrI

SpudRider 11-21-2014 12:18 AM

Thanks for checking in, and giving us the accurate information, Joe. :)

P.S. The first video is not available for us to view. When I attempt to watch the video, I get the message "this video is private." :shrug:

CSCDude 11-21-2014 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 175641)
Thanks for checking in, and giving us the accurate information, Joe. :)

P.S. The first video is not available for us to view. When I attempt to watch the video, I get the message "this video is private." :shrug:

I tried it again. Please let me know if it is working okay now.

SpudRider 11-21-2014 12:30 AM

Yes, it's working now. Thanks for fixing it. :tup:

SpudRider 11-21-2014 12:35 AM

Joe,

Do you own a GPS unit which displays speed? If so, I would like to know the accuracy of the RX3 speedometer. Most motorcycle speedometers are ten percent 'optimistic.' In other words, the speedometer displays a speed which is ten percent higher than the actual speed. ;)

Pitbullmoto 11-21-2014 05:20 AM

Hello, Friends!
Prompt, whether on a motorcycle Gas Gas "EC CAMI 250 F" has an engine ZS 177 MM (nc250)?

fishman10 11-21-2014 05:38 AM

Zong deposit
 
Well spud. ,, I am 51. Now. An wolf traxx. The lady from csc. Told me that the bikes had passed certification.

SpudRider 11-21-2014 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitbullmoto (Post 175646)
Hello, Friends!
Prompt, whether on a motorcycle Gas Gas "EC CAMI 250 F" has an engine ZS 177 MM (nc250)?

Welcome. We are glad you joined us. :hi:

Yes, I believe the Gas Gas, EC 250 Cami has the same engine as the Zongshen RX3. Here are several photographs of the NC250 (ZS 177MM) engine in the Gas Gas motorcycle.

http://www.enduro21.com/media/k2/gal...mi-250-002.jpg

http://www.enduro21.com/media/k2/gal...mi-250-008.jpg

I like the exhaust header on the Gas Gas bike. :tup:

SpudRider 11-21-2014 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fishman10 (Post 175647)
Well spud. ,, I am 51. Now. An wolf traxx. The lady from csc. Told me that the bikes had passed certification.

Thanks for verifying the RX3 passed CARB/EPA certification, Fish. :)

P.S. Don't fret; fifty is the new forty. ;)

Pitbullmoto 11-21-2014 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 175648)
Welcome. We are glad you joined us. :hi:

Yes, I believe the Gas Gas, EC 250 Cami has the same engine as the Zongshen RX3. Here are several photographs of the NC250 (ZS 177MM) engine in the Gas Gas motorcycle.

http://www.enduro21.com/media/k2/gal...mi-250-002.jpg

http://www.enduro21.com/media/k2/gal...mi-250-008.jpg

I like the exhaust header on the Gas Gas bike. :tup:

Why Gas Gas and AJP not mention what kind of engines installed on Cami and PR5?

Weldangrind 11-21-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fishman10 (Post 175626)
csc called today an i put my $500 down,,,,an on my birthday too!!

Happy belated birthday, Fish! Glad to hear things are moving forward with CSC.

Weldangrind 11-21-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CSCDude (Post 175640)
Hi guys. Joe from CSC here.

Thanks for your continuing interest in us.

Here are two or three inputs:

We are not rebadging the bike. We are proud of the fact that it is a Zongshen. It's a first-class motorcycle from a first-class company, and we wouldn't present it as anything other than what it is.

We are indeed the company that will be bringing the RX-3 to Canada. The process is well underway and we expect to be selling in Canada within the next couple of months.

I put a few miles on the RX-3 today on the freeway, and then on a pretty gnarly local goat trail. You folks on Chinariders.net are seeing these videos first....

Wow, anywhere close to 84mph would be a bonus! Was that all she had?

If you're importing bikes into the US and then distributing to Canada, the cost is likely to be prohibitive to me. We're not going to see the terrific pricing that my American friends are paying for a new RX-3.

I've seen that before, most recently with Cleveland Cycle Works. You're in business to make money, and it's totally reasonable that you'll need to pass the shipping and import fees onto Canadian buyers. I'm just saying that it would be better for our wallets if the RX-3 was imported directly into Canada, rather than through the US.

Nevertheless, I'm excited to see them on Canadian soil. :clap:

Weldangrind 11-21-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitbullmoto (Post 175646)
Hello, Friends!
Prompt, whether on a motorcycle Gas Gas "EC CAMI 250 F" has an engine ZS 177 MM (nc250)?

Good question. It looks very similar!

http://www.gasgasmotos.es/image/moto...mi_250_002.jpg

http://www.minsk-moto.com/pub/produc...2/color1_1.png

Weldangrind 11-21-2014 11:03 AM

I like that the Gas Gas has a kicker. I bet it would be adaptable to the RX-3.

Weldangrind 11-21-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitbullmoto (Post 175650)
Why Gas Gas and AJP not mention what kind of engines installed on Cami and PR5?

I think they want us to believe it is a Gas Gas motor.

Weldangrind 11-21-2014 11:06 AM

I wonder if the Gas Gas suspension link would bolt onto an RX-3...

SpudRider 11-21-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 175660)
I wonder if the Gas Gas suspension link would bolt onto an RX-3...

I've pondered the same question, which proves that great minds think alike. :lol: After examining the photographs, I think the lower shock linkage from the Gas Gas, and similar bikes which employ the NC250 engine, would fit the Zongshen RX3.

I also surmise the forks, swingarm, shock absorber, and both wheels from the Zongshen ZS150GY-10 might fit the new RX3. ;)

SpudRider 11-21-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitbullmoto (Post 175650)
Why Gas Gas and AJP not mention what kind of engines installed on Cami and PR5?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 175659)
I think they want us to believe it is a Gas Gas motor.

As usual, I agree with Weld. ;)

SpudRider 11-21-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 175658)
I like that the Gas Gas has a kicker. I bet it would be adaptable to the RX-3.

I have considered that possibility. The kick start lever, associated gears, and right crankcase cover are readily available at Taobao. :) However, the frame of the RX3 is different from the dirt bikes which employ the the NC250 engine, all of which have the kick starter. The RX3 frame is wider, and extends farther from the engine. Therefore, I surmise the frame of the RX3 would probably obstruct the kick start lever, and one can't install it on the RX3. :ohno: However, we will know better regarding this matter after the RX3 arrives in North America. ;)

SpudRider 11-21-2014 01:35 PM

The Gas Gas, EC 250 Cami has the NC250 engine with a carburetor. Here is a video of the Gas Gas bike in action. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxVEJNHp9A

Wolftrax 11-21-2014 01:42 PM

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Here's another iteration of the NC250 engine in the AJP PR250 Pro. I really like this bike and almost bought it before purchasing my CRF. The engine is noted for its linear smooth tractable power. A really good trait for a woods/trail bike.

SpudRider 11-21-2014 02:02 PM

I see the AJP PR5 bike has the Delphi EFI. :tup:

http://motoajp.com/ajp-enduros/pr5-enduro/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfXkidS91us

CSCDude 11-21-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 175649)
Thanks for verifying the RX3 passed CARB/EPA certification, Fish.

Guys, Joe from CSC here. Just to be clear, we have passed the emissions and shed tests. We do not have the certification yet. There is an administrative lag between the time we pass the tests and receiving the Executive Order.

SpudRider 11-21-2014 02:39 PM

Thanks for posting the clarification, Joe. :) Can you give us a rough estimate when the RX3 bikes might arrive in California?

Wolftrax 11-21-2014 03:08 PM

Woo hoo got my call from Sarah at CSC. Took my deposit and informed me my should be ready for US shipment around the 1st of February 2015. Think I might store my bike in Ca. And do a fly and ride in early March!

culcune 11-21-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 175675)
Woo hoo got my call from Sarah at CSC. Took my deposit and informed me my should be ready for US shipment around the 1st of February 2015. Think I might store my bike in Ca. And do a fly and ride in early March!

You would have to pay sales tax on the bike, but it would still probably be less than the cost of shipping.

SpudRider 11-21-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 175675)
Woo hoo got my call from Sarah at CSC. Took my deposit and informed me my should be ready for US shipment around the 1st of February 2015. Think I might store my bike in Ca. And do a fly and ride in early March!

:tup:

Wolftrax 11-21-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune (Post 175676)
You would have to pay sales tax on the bike, but it would still probably be less than the cost of shipping.

Sales tax is normally paid when you register your bike in Ga. I bought bikes in NC, Tn and WV and never paid sales tax at the point of sale.

SpudRider 11-21-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 175684)
Sales tax is normally paid when you register your bike in Ga. I bought bikes in NC, Tn and WV and never paid sales tax at the point of sale.

That's the way it works in Idaho. I have bought several motorcycles outside of Idaho. I pay the sales tax at the local DMV when I register the vehicle. I'm sure CSCDude has addressed this issue in both this thread, and the CSC Blog. ;)

culcune 11-21-2014 11:43 PM

Okay, I hope that is how it works. I had asked Excalibur if they would let me buy my bike and ride it back to Yuma, and he had told me I would have to pay sales tax. I had wondered, but did not ask, if I could buy the bike, have him send me the MSO, register it in AZ and pay the taxes, etc. and then go to Chino to ride it back.

Just double check with CSC at any rate.

Pitbullmoto 11-22-2014 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 175665)
As usual, I agree with Weld. ;)

Maybe somewhere in internet has an information about tenders where zongshen won, and now they are supply zongshen nc 250 for GasGas and AGP?

If NC250 is a copy, what is original engine?

SpudRider 11-22-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitbullmoto (Post 175691)
Maybe somewhere in internet has an information about tenders where zongshen won, and now they are supply zongshen nc 250 for GasGas and AGP?

If NC250 is a copy, what is original engine?

The Zongshen NC250 engine is not a copy, it is an original design. Zongshen worked with an Italian company to design the NC250 engine.

3banger 11-22-2014 12:08 PM

Been lurking for while since I'm on the CSC list. Figured it's time I joine. Got my call yesterday but was traveling in poor cell coverage. But made it clear I'm in and will call back on Monday. Now I got the whole weekend to think about what color....

Wolftrax 11-22-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 3banger (Post 175694)
Been lurking for while since I'm on the CSC list. Figured it's time I joine. Got my call yesterday but was traveling in poor cell coverage. But made it clear I'm in and will call back on Monday. Now I got the whole weekend to think about what color....

Welcome, this is definately the site for all things Zongshen. BTW, get the Orange, it's the fastest.

Weldangrind 11-22-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 175663)
I've pondered the same question, which proves that great minds think alike. :lol: After examining the photographs, I think the lower shock linkage from the Gas Gas, and similar bikes which employ the NC250 engine, would fit the Zongshen RX3.

I also surmise the forks, swingarm, shock absorber, and both wheels from the Zongshen ZS150GY-10 might fit the new RX3. ;)

I presume you mean that fools seldom differ. :hehe:

I'm also wondering if the Gas Gas suspension linkage is a different length. If it is longer, it might lower the saddle height on an RX-3.

Weldangrind 11-22-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 175666)
I have considered that possibility. The kick start lever, associated gears, and right crankcase cover are readily available at Taobao. :) However, the frame of the RX3 is different from the dirt bikes which employ the the NC250 engine, all of which have the kick starter. The RX3 frame is wider, and extends farther from the engine. Therefore, I surmise the frame of the RX3 would probably obstruct the kick start lever, and one can't install it on the RX3. :ohno: However, we will know better regarding this matter after the RX3 arrives in North America. ;)

After swapping the other parts over, the kicker could be modified to suit the RX-3 frame. If it's not conducive to comfortable riding after modification, it could be stored in a pannier.

Weldangrind 11-22-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 175675)
Woo hoo got my call from Sarah at CSC. Took my deposit and informed me my should be ready for US shipment around the 1st of February 2015. Think I might store my bike in Ca. And do a fly and ride in early March!

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