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BlackBike 10-30-2016 07:34 PM

Now time for the high temperature black for the muff, coming along nicely:tup:

95C1500 10-30-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 234819)
Now time for the high temperature black for the muff, coming along nicely:tup:

I planned on painting it, I even have a brand new can of black high temp paint. But it doesn't spray so I need to return it lol. That and I need to paint the wheels and the forks and wrap the exhaust. But I need to get it running right first :ohno:

BlackBike 10-30-2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 95C1500 (Post 234824)
I planned on painting it, I even have a brand new can of black high temp paint. But it doesn't spray so I need to return it lol. That and I need to paint the wheels and the forks and wrap the exhaust. But I need to get it running right first :ohno:

Pull the spray tip off one of those other rattle cans and your in business. Just remember to clear the can by spraying upside down for a few seconds when your done to çlear the tip and it will be ready for next time.

95C1500 10-30-2016 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 234831)
Pull the spray tip off one of those other rattle cans and your in business. Just remember to clear the can by spraying upside down for a few seconds when your done to çlear the tip and it will be ready for next time.

It's not a clogged tip, it's like there's no pressure in the can lol

GeneralTso 10-31-2016 12:30 AM

Bike looks good man, like that color choice.

95C1500 10-31-2016 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneralTso (Post 234849)
Bike looks good man, like that color choice.

Thanks!

Okay, so since I got it, I've thought the choke when UP: off MIDDLE: half and DOWN: full choke. Apparently it's the other way. Is that correct?

That means that my bike will cold start with the choke off, run with the choke off and after half throttle, it will not bog down I believe. I'll have to take it for another ride tomorrow to verify this. This is the way it sould function, correct?

Previously I was thinking that it would start and idle with the choke on, die at half or choke off. So I thought it was bogging down after half throttle with the choke on. If what I'm thinking is correct, since I had the choke reversed in my mind, my bike is running normally. Again, I'll have to test it out tomorrow to be sure. Didn't have a chance to ride it after I figured out I had backwards

I know my way around engines, carbs, etc... better than is this post is letting on. I'm tired and just want someone who knows 100% what they're talking about to verify this lol. So if the bike starts cold, idles, and doesn't bog throughout the rpm range with the choke off (all the way down), then it is functioning normally?

BlackBike 10-31-2016 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 95C1500 (Post 234855)
Thanks!

Okay, so since I got it, I've thought the choke when UP: off MIDDLE: half and DOWN: full choke. Apparently it's the other way. Is that correct?

That means that my bike will cold start with the choke off, run with the choke off and after half throttle, it will not bog down I believe. I'll have to take it for another ride tomorrow to verify this. This is the way it sould function, correct?

Previously I was thinking that it would start and idle with the choke on, die at half or choke off. So I thought it was bogging down after half throttle with the choke on. If what I'm thinking is correct, since I had the choke reversed in my mind, my bike is running normally. Again, I'll have to test it out tomorrow to be sure. Didn't have a chance to ride it after I figured out I had backwards

I know my way around engines, carbs, etc... better than is this post is letting on. I'm tired and just want someone who knows 100% what they're talking about to verify this lol. So if the bike starts cold, idles, and doesn't bog throughout the rpm range with the choke off (all the way down), then it is functioning normally?

Down choke off, up is on. My problem is sometime not remembering to turn the fuel cock on:doh:

Southds like it's gona fly tomorrow if it can breath.

95C1500 10-31-2016 01:37 AM

My God I feel stupid lol. I was in the shop for an hour removing the carb, tweaking the mixture screw, reinstalling and testing only to find out I had it backwards and none of it was necessary lol.

I've forgotten the gas and the killswitch a time or two lol

pistolclass 10-31-2016 06:40 PM

2nd opinion.....

Lever up = Choke on
Lever middle = half choke
Lever down = No Choke

Do you live in a warm climate? Choke is only need on my hawk when the temp is 50 or less. ( that is Fahrenheit for all our metric friends)

95C1500 10-31-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pistolclass (Post 234895)
2nd opinion.....

Lever up = Choke on
Lever middle = half choke
Lever down = No Choke

Do you live in a warm climate? Choke is only need on my hawk when the temp is 50 or less. ( that is Fahrenheit for all our metric friends)

I live in Texas. It barely gets below 50. It's almost november 1st and we had an 86 degree high today

JerryHawk250 11-04-2016 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 95C1500 (Post 234911)
I live in Texas. It barely gets below 50. It's almost november 1st and we had an 86 degree high today

Typical South Louisiana weather lol. Wear shorts for Christmas. Bikes looking great. :tup: I like doing projects like that.

95C1500 11-05-2016 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 235182)
Typical South Louisiana weather lol. Wear shorts for Christmas. Bikes looking great. :tup: I like doing projects like that.

Yes! Shorts at christmas time and during the summmer, even shorts are too much clothing lol

95C1500 11-05-2016 06:17 PM

Okay guys, I made a carb disassembly and tuning video which you can find here for the stock carb. Motocheez made a similar one but I didn't fully understand what was going on and what needed to be done so I decided to dive in and make an actual disassembly video myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juNez9Eeo4s

I met up with another Hawk 250 owner from youtube today. We did a valve clearance adjustment on his bike and tweaked the carbs on both of our bikes then went for a ride. I'll have a video up of that soon too
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f5&oe=58995073
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bd&oe=589D4751

Merlin 11-05-2016 10:28 PM

Thanks for the helpful video. Looks like the same carb as mine.

95C1500 11-06-2016 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 235396)
Thanks for the helpful video. Looks like the same carb as mine.

I'm glad you found it helpful :tup:

95C1500 11-07-2016 11:02 PM

Here's the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r8GtabE_xU

95C1500 11-09-2016 09:59 PM

The rear sprocket on the Hawk, my friend is having problems with his and he was wondering why these just fall out. Are they supposed ot be welded in and someone along the line forgot to or is here an actual reason why these are loose like this?

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3b&oe=588C14F2

Merlin 11-09-2016 11:44 PM

No thats how there made. I have the same setup with my steel wheel. The snap ring holds the sprocket in place and those pins prevent the sprocket from spinning. My aluminum wheel has bolts instead of the pins but still has the snap ring.

95C1500 11-10-2016 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 235816)
No thats how there made. I have the same setup with my steel wheel. The snap ring holds the sprocket in place and those pins prevent the sprocket from spinning. My aluminum wheel has bolts instead of the pins but still has the snap ring.

My friend is wanting to have them welded in. Any problem with that? Or best to leave it alone?

Merlin 11-10-2016 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 95C1500 (Post 235837)
My friend is wanting to have them welded in. Any problem with that? Or best to leave it alone?

Ya just leave it its the way it was made to work.

95C1500 11-10-2016 10:11 AM

That's what I figured. Thanks for the input!

Merlin 11-10-2016 10:21 AM

Your welcome.

BlackBike 11-10-2016 10:57 AM

Once you weld them in your done. You have to live with it. I think it a design to be able to replace the studs in case of sheer off. :shrug:

Weldangrind 11-10-2016 11:33 AM

The design is quite good, and is borrowed from Honda. Those studs sit in bushings, and the entire assembly is meant to have some give upon engaging the clutch. It saves wear and tear on the chain, sprockets and you.

95C1500 11-10-2016 06:20 PM

I knew there had to be a reason. Thanks for the replies.

Weldangrind 11-11-2016 11:36 AM

I should have added that the setup is commonly referred to as a cush drive.

Merlin 11-11-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 235915)
I should have added that the setup is commonly referred to as a cush drive.

I wonder if my new hub is cush? It has bolts not pins. But the bolts bolt up to inserts in the hub that can move kind of like the pins.

95C1500 11-12-2016 02:18 AM

Took pictures of it. This is really the only good one.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9c&oe=58D11AD0

Went out tonight to grease the front axle (my God did it need it) of all things and.... of course this is where I ended up. Front axle greased, swing arm greased, coilover greased, I tried my best to clean the chain with what I had available bu it'd didn't wok so great, cleaned the front wheel, wiped the gunk off the motor/frame/swingarm. I went a lot deeper into this than I thought I would. :ohno:
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3b&oe=5894707F
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...13&oe=58C96A02
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...31&oe=58918CB5
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...25&oe=588ECA47

Still waiting on my JT rear 45t sprocket to be delivered to the amazon seller so they can send it to me. Only ordered it a month ago. They are supposed to receive it on the 15th. It'll probably be delayed ANOTHER two weeks.

BlackBike 11-13-2016 12:06 AM

Good work 95c1500. I just greased my speedo cable . Just pull it out from the front sending unit...easy

GeneralTso 11-13-2016 04:45 PM

Bike looks great, good job. Reminds me I forgot to grease my front axle when I did the bearings! Damn...

Adjuster 11-13-2016 05:34 PM

I lathered up my swing arm bolt with silver anti seize. Made a huge difference in ride quality. I like the anti seize for stuff like this. It sticks to anything and seems to be impervious to water etc.



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95C1500 11-14-2016 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 236000)
Good work 95c1500. I just greased my speedo cable . Just pull it out from the front sending unit...easy

Do you still have the stock custer?
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Originally Posted by GeneralTso (Post 236025)
Bike looks great, good job. Reminds me I forgot to grease my front axle when I did the bearings! Damn...

Lol!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adjuster (Post 236028)
I lathered up my swing arm bolt with silver anti seize. Made a huge difference in ride quality. I like the anti seize for stuff like this. It sticks to anything and seems to be impervious to water etc.



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Hm. I might have to pull it back out and do that. It'll be a little while though lol

BlackBike 11-14-2016 10:30 AM

I have the bashan bike, analog speedo.

Also, did you find the kickstand spring http://therps.net/DB-Hawk.html

Strange how the spring is not listed under the misc tab

No dreaming about dirt bikes during class ;)

95C1500 11-14-2016 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 236059)
I have the bashan bike, analog speedo.

Also, did you find the kickstand spring http://therps.net/DB-Hawk.html

Strange how the spring is not listed under the misc tab

No dreaming about dirt bikes during class ;)


I have not found a spring. I was thinking I could find something at Ace or Home depot

It happens all day every day lmao

Weldangrind 11-15-2016 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 235925)
I wonder if my new hub is cush? It has bolts not pins. But the bolts bolt up to inserts in the hub that can move kind of like the pins.

I'd like to see a picture of that.

Merlin 11-15-2016 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 236094)
I'd like to see a picture of that.

Ill post one tomorrow.

letsride 11-15-2016 01:59 PM

95C,
Where did you order that Main Jet assortment from?

Merlin 11-15-2016 03:30 PM

here's four
 
4 Attachment(s)
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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 236094)
I'd like to see a picture of that.

Ok here's four pictures. The inserts the bolts go into pulled out of there holes a little when I bolted on the sprocket. Is cush or not is cush that is the question? :shrug:

Weldangrind 11-16-2016 11:32 AM

I've never seen a setup quite like that. Are the bolts original, or have they been replaced? Perhaps they're a little too long, which would explain the lifting when the bolts are tightened.


If you were to lock a pair of Vise Grips onto a bolt, can you wiggle it to see if there is a rubber bushing behind it?

Merlin 11-16-2016 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 236174)
I've never seen a setup quite like that. Are the bolts original, or have they been replaced? Perhaps they're a little too long, which would explain the lifting when the bolts are tightened.


If you were to lock a pair of Vise Grips onto a bolt, can you wiggle it to see if there is a rubber bushing behind it?

The bolts are original. The inserts the bolts go into where flush with the black flat part of the hub but the sprocket sits on a raised lip so when I tightened the bolts the inserts pulled up to the height of the sprocket. I tried the vice grips but I feel no wiggle. Ive never seen a set up like this. :hmm:
PS this hub looks precisely the same as my old cush hub with the pins (ya old with less then 400 miles lol) but for the bolt inserts?


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