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BlackBike 06-14-2016 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Motocrazy (Post 220971)
Bounty Buddy,

I have both bikes. I bought the RX3 first for a commuter bike and light offroad. Not that it can't do much more. But after just a few weeks I needed more power for freeway use. After seeing some videos of the CB500X with the Rally Raid Stage 3 kit. I fell in love. Don't let anyone tell you the CB500X won't go off road. Stock it has seriously crappy suspension but I threw some good knobbies on the front and back and I've ripped down some trails I didn't think I should have gone. But even stock the CB500X took it all in stride. I've purchased the Rally Raid stage 2 kit already and I'm just waiting on it's arrival. I picked up my 2013 CB500X with 3,400 miles on it for $3700.00. I had to drive 8 hours both ways to get it but the bike is becoming one of my all time favorite bikes. And at 52 yrs old I've had alot :yay: I still ride my RX3 at least 3 time a week to work but I know in the long run the Honda will outlast the Zong. My Goldwing currently has 157,000 miles on it and I don't see it croaking anytime soon. Anyway I thought I'd throw my .02 cents worth in the ring. :D Enjoy doesn't mater what bike you have it's always better than not having one at all.

Care to let us see?...sounds awesome.

Motocrazy 06-14-2016 12:51 AM

You bet..
 
Blackbike,

I'll be happy to show it off. Currently it's on the lift getting wired with some driving lights and other farkles. Currently Rally raid is running 6+ weeks for delivery. The wheels seem to be the things on back order. Still tossing around which soft luggage I want to tour with, there are so many choices. Anyway I'll be happy to post pictures as soon as it's done. Probably be late summer but I will make sure to post progress pictures.

Wolftrax 06-14-2016 08:07 AM

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The CB 500X Rally Raid is perhaps the perfect 50/50 all road bike. It moves effortlessly from dirt to pavement . Off road its the real deal and goes anywhere you point it. The Tractive suspension is the key to its off road prowess. On the highway it's biggest problem is keeping it under 70 mph to achieve 60 mpg. It's a mile muncher on road and off.

Tiger12XC 06-14-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Motocrazy (Post 220990)
Blackbike,

I'll be happy to show it off. Currently it's on the lift getting wired with some driving lights and other farkles. Currently Rally raid is running 6+ weeks for delivery. The wheels seem to be the things on back order. Still tossing around which soft luggage I want to tour with, there are so many choices. Anyway I'll be happy to post pictures as soon as it's done. Probably be late summer but I will make sure to post progress pictures.

The Wolfman Blackhawk tank bag from the RX3 fits the CB500X tank nicely also ordering the Wolfman Enduro Dry Saddle Bags great size for cloths and light camping gear. I have the 45L Holand Nomada Pro II panniers on my bike to haul the majority of gear we have so the so Mrs. Tiger can stay light on long trips.

BlackBike 06-17-2016 04:42 PM

Wolf, thanks for posting that excellent pic of the cb500x rr. That does look like perfect balance power agility weight etc. I think this is what zong is shooting for with their rx4.

Will soak it in some more, ahhh

BlackBike 06-17-2016 05:00 PM

http://www.advpulse.com/wp-content/u...Heritage-2.jpg
Honda heritage custom build
Stage 3 bolt on kit for cb500x $2900
https://giantloopmoto.com/product/le...nture-rrp-443/

Motocrazy, I'm in :yay:

Need to see one at a Honda store...just looking, thank you:hehe:

BlackBike 06-18-2016 12:39 AM

http://blackgirlsride.com/wp-content...nfographic.jpg

Hopefully black girls ride. Com won't mind if I borrow this pic.
Imagine if this bike had a stage 3 off road kit. They could suspension lift, delete cowling etc. Would be perfect power and low weight for adv tour bike like rx3. But then ,by that time it would be up to about $7500, probably wouldn't sell with small motor and large price.

1cylinderwonder 08-24-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 200395)
The Honda CB500X doesn't have all the standard equipment included with the RX3. ;) In addition, the CB500X is much heavier, even in stock form.
The answer for me is simple. I would much rather own a Zongshen RX3 than Honda CB500X. ;)

The RX3 weighs 385 lbs and the CB500X weighs 427 lbs.
The RX3 has 25hp and the CB500X has 50hp.
So CB500X is 42lbs. heavier than RX3, but has double the horsepower.
So what do you want?

wheelbender6 08-24-2017 07:21 PM

To many, the CB500x is considered a light bike. The power to weight ratio of the CB500x is close to twice that of the Zong.
I prefer the Zong too, but a lot of the heavier bikes have insanely high power to weight ratios.

2LZ 08-25-2017 10:55 AM

You can't compare a 250 with a 500. May as well compare a Prius with a Camaro.

fjmartin 08-25-2017 02:01 PM

One of the guys I just rode the WABDR with last week on his RX3 just sold his CB500X. He didn't like it. Said the power band was too mild all the way up and he couldn't hang with other riders. Got another buddy who has one and LOVES it. He's doing the Rally Raid Level 3 kit on it to make it truly trail worthy.

1cylinderwonder 08-25-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fjmartin (Post 264105)
One of the guys I just rode the WABDR with last week on his RX3 just sold his CB500X. He didn't like it. Said the power band was too mild all the way up and he couldn't hang with other riders. Got another buddy who has one and LOVES it. He's doing the Rally Raid Level 3 kit on it to make it truly trail worthy.

So the CB500X could not keep up with the RX3????
Hard to believe!
I'd do a Rally Raid upgrade to make it a little more off road worthy!

Sport Rider 08-25-2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 264122)
So the CB500X could not keep up with the RX3????
Hard to believe!
I'd do a Rally Raid upgrade to make it a little more off road worthy!

the only thing I can think is the weight being the difference. I can see the rx3 being better on trail types of environments with proper tires. easier to move around with less weight. I can't see the 500x not being better than the rx3 for most adventure tour work. I'd like to hear his explanation though.

Biker_Andy 08-26-2017 02:05 PM

I own a CB500XA (A for ABS) and TT250 and I think it's the perfect combo. CB500XA for touring pavement and short gravel rides. TT250 for short commutes, longer gravel rides & trails. I've never rode the RX3 and it wasn't available when I bought my CB500XA or I'd probably own one instead and then I likely wouldn't have ever bought a TT250. The CB500X is certainly more expensive then the RX3. I paid about twice the cost of the RX3 price for both of my bikes but I have twice the bikes. If I had to sell both bikes and then buy one bike to replace both then I would again consider the RX3. I think everyone would agree the TT250 is a better trail bike then the RX3 and the CB500X is the better pavement bike. Unfortunately neither are as well rounded for all roads as the RX3.

The only real problem with my bike combo is when the trail I want to ride is hundreds of miles away from home. I don't own a truck and my stock TT250 is terrible on the highway. It's a lot cheaper to make the TT250 more highway capable then to make the CB500X more off road worthy.

A rally raid stage 1 kit on a CB would give the RX3 a run for its money while a stage 3 would make it surpass an RX3 in every respect on and off road. I was told with a stage 3 kit on the CB and it can run as fast or faster then a GS, Tiger or Twin on the trail. The price of a stage 3 kit is roughly the same as a TT250 though. Hence I own a TT250.

The ideal poor man's adventure bike is the RX3 while the ideal rich man's bike is a Stage 3 CB500X. The question becomes: Are you the type of person who wants to thrash around a $4000 bike or a $8000 bike.

wheelbender6 08-27-2017 02:51 PM

I was reading a review of the 750cc Moto Guzzi V7 this morning and it has 50hp.
That makes the Honda CB 500 look pretty powerful in comparison.

Sullybiker 08-27-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelbender6 (Post 264249)
I was reading a review of the 750cc Moto Guzzi V7 this morning and it has 50hp.
That makes the Honda CB 500 look pretty powerful in comparison.

The Guzzi's an air-cooled twin and they usually give up a bit of power compared to liquid-cooled motors.

CB500's engine is a bit uninspired but the bike is perfectly quick. I think the CB500F is a classic Honda; a very capable, light standard motorcycle.

dh 08-28-2017 11:46 PM

I am wondering how the new Royal Enfield Himalayan might compare with the Rx3. They have similar weight and horsepower specs although the 410cc air cooled RE has a bit more more torque. Not sure if it is enough to make much of a difference?

https://royalenfield.com/motorcycles/himalayan/bike/

1cylinderwonder 08-29-2017 01:04 AM

Waiting it seems forever
 
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Originally Posted by dh (Post 264358)
I am wondering how the new Royal Enfield Himalayan might compare with the Rx3. They have similar weight and horsepower specs although the 410cc air cooled RE has a bit more more torque. Not sure if it is enough to make much of a difference?

https://royalenfield.com/motorcycles/himalayan/bike/

I've been following the development of the Himalaya for a couple of years and waiting to make a purchase if and when it arrives in the United States. I hope it happens soon.:yay:

Jay In Milpitas 09-02-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelbender6 (Post 264249)
I was reading a review of the 750cc Moto Guzzi V7 this morning and it has 50hp.
That makes the Honda CB 500 look pretty powerful in comparison.

Did you compare torque values and rpm that the power ratings are delivered at?

RedHawk47 09-24-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 264526)
Did you compare torque values and rpm that the power ratings are delivered at?

That's the point I was going to make.
The Moto Guzzi has lots of low end torque. High end HP is only good for bragging, you rarely use it.


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