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pistolclass 01-13-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 240582)
I will not trade my Hawk,registered in NJ.

If the Hawk had the sticker then not sure bashan would be a threat. That sticker is Huge (sorry Donald). Why would someone even bother with the hassle of NJ, PA, CT, IL, Etc.... Just order this.

I'm telling you in a few months there will be dedicated thread, fan clubs and people sporting new tatoos of the Enforcer.

LHJ>L0W if you know what I mean.

pete 01-13-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pistolclass (Post 240577)

with 17 tq and only 11.5 hp if you just spin it faster you could expect more hp right?

with out writing a novel the short awsner is
NO..

If yer looked at a dyno chart yer more than lightly find
the power is alread starting to drop off at max RPMs/red line...




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pistolclass 01-13-2017 10:08 PM

5252 rpm is the intersection so one would think that more RPM makes more power.... Why can't life be a simple constant?

pistolclass 01-13-2017 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pete (Post 240589)
with out writing a novel the short awsner is
NO..

If yer looked at a dyno chart yer more than lightly find
the power is alread starting to drop off at max RPMs/red line...




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I think I got it here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-...sepower-guide/

Ariel Red Hunter 01-13-2017 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pistolclass (Post 240593)

Yes, that information is valid. Study up on it, and then re-read Hawk Talk's series of articles on Joe Craig (The Wizard of Bracebridge Street). Be ready to pop back and forth to really get this info mashed in that oh, so reluctant thing - the brain. Not only Joe's Nortons but even the humble little engine in your Hawk is tuned the way both Craig and the Hot Rod mag article describe.

Azhule 01-13-2017 11:05 PM

Probably should be listed as 11.5 kw ? or about 15.4 hp ?

motorcyclelove 01-13-2017 11:09 PM

Don needs to join this cummintity. Why the big jump in price???

BlackBike 01-14-2017 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by letsride (Post 240562)
As good as it sounds though. You have to consider the whole package. Here the Hawk is a proven machine with a following. And you really can't deny the support RPS has in place. I.E. you can easily find parts for a Hawk. I LOVE my Bashan Brozz (err, my SON's Brozz) But there is NO website that lists parts for it. Like www.therps.net does for the Hawk. So with all that said. Would I buy this Bashan Enforcer, yeah I probably would as alot of these parts are interchangeable. But if I didn't like to do my homework to find something that will fit. The HAWK would be my bike. Just my .02

For 1ķ hard to argue tithe the price. 3.7 gal tank too w gauge . Looks really good if they get this ramped up I bet they will sell a ton of them.

Now apparently $1500

BlackBike 01-14-2017 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Azhule (Post 240596)
Probably should be listed as 11.5 kw ? or about 15.4 hp ?

I was just going to post the same, I agree with az, I think thats the metric expression. :shrug: Should be the same hp rating as all the other 229 lumps.

BlackBike 01-14-2017 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Azhule (Post 240596)
Probably should be listed as 11.5 kw ? or about 15.4 hp ?

Here's your 229 bashan! Mabey Manny will do you a good deal since he's such a great guy now according to the latest posts :hehe:

pete 01-14-2017 01:31 AM

KW x 1.341 = HP.
well that sound a bit better...
but still a under stressed motor
for a 250cc



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Azhule 01-14-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 240608)
Here's your 229 bashan!

The list of "China Bikes" on my list grows every day :lmao:

Now I want to get the Enforcer 250, STORM 250, TT250, KP150 Mini ('Grom Clone'), and the RX3/RX4 minimum :hehe:

If the enforcer stays at $1,049+ a small amount of shipping it might be in the budget one day

Ariel Red Hunter 01-14-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pete (Post 240609)
KW x 1.341 = HP.
well that sound a bit better...
but still a under stressed motor
for a 250cc



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Neato! When I read this, I flashed back on my mother telling me about being in New York, at Times Square for the Premier showing of Greta Garbo in "Anna Christie". This picture was a big deal because, Garbo was head and shoulders the best screen actress of her day, and this was her first talking picture. My mother told me that the whole side of the Times Building "Was lit up in thousand watt Mazda's, hundreds of them" All the words consisted of "Garbo Talks" in five bulb wide letters about 25 feet high. If Garbo can hear us, I'm sure she would be pleased to know how much horsepower was used for her first weeks showing of this motion picture.

culcune 01-14-2017 12:51 PM

Does have the 21/18 wheel setup vs. its Brozz/Shark stablemates' 19/16, but does not include the once ubiquitous rack. I would still probably go with the Storm, Brozz, or Shark over this in spite of its price. My guess is the details are in the price.

Not to throw rain on the parade, because I am sure this is a great basic Bashan (hence the price), but this particular model appears to be like those few hundred dollar cheaper bikes that sold alongside the Storm a couple years ago when everyone was scooping up the Storm, that were shown on the large, California-based, mail-order firms like Powersportsmax, or Superiorpowersports, etc. Sometimes, people picked them up, and got what they paid for, such as member 'Merlin' who found out that his spokes were the wrong size. It appeared that Bashan purposely made a slightly cheaper model that ended up managing to show its flaws.

If anyone is interested, here are the models certified by Bashan with the EPA for model year 2016 (the 2017 list will continue getting updated, and Bashan and several others who have been continuously on the lists for years will probably show up later, although some have skipped a year or so due to overstock).

BROZZ 250, BS200GY-46, BS250GY-18D, BS250GY-31, MOTARD 250, MOTOMAX 250, SHARK 250, STORM 250

The Enforcer name is probably one of Don's badge engineering tricks like he does on a few of his bikesm including the Storm (called the Stallion) like Motobuys.com is known for.

culcune 01-14-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Azhule (Post 240616)
The list of "China Bikes" on my list grows every day :lmao:

Now I want to get the Enforcer 250, STORM 250, TT250, KP150 Mini ('Grom Clone'), and the RX3/RX4 minimum :hehe:

If the enforcer stays at $1,049+ a small amount of shipping it might be in the budget one day

I forgot about your Will 200, Azhule. Those are also what I was thinking about when I mentioned the 'other Bashans' that came out alongside the Storm a few years back, and I really didn't mean any of them in a negative light, but I do think that Bashan had ideas for them as a slightly lower priced bike, vs. their 'premium' enduro, the Storm or Brozz (the Shark is a newer, premium-ish bike).

On another note, I, too, patiently await the KPMini--this is one bike that will stand out among the Groms, the Kawasaki mini, and the numerous clones. It has an actual vertical 150cc thumper, and, more impressive--5 speeds. I think it might out-Grom the Grom! :tup:


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