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culcune 01-26-2016 06:34 PM

I didn't want to link the entire thread (it is epic!) about a guy who travels throughout the African continent with his surfboard. However, starting on page 6 (where I linked) and through page 7, the guy's friend met him in S. Africa and bought a Bashan Xplode (we don't have that model here, and with a name like that, I can see why!? :) ) and rode over 5000 miles from S. Africa to Zanzibar or Tanzania (not sure if they took the ferry?!). The only problem he had was a chain that stretched beyond what was useful, and the wheel was as far back as it would go. The part up to where he sold the bike is on page 7. The point is, his friend 'just went for it' and had few issues riding 5k miles in the African continent, and was able to sell it (not sure how much). Anyway, the part where they bought the bike in S. Africa is post 88.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...fboard-72401-6

Disclaimer--on a different continent and a different brand of Chinese bike, you results may vary...

Wolftrax 01-27-2016 08:43 PM

Had a nice chat with Adam at RPS yesterday. He spoke with their head mechanic about my plans and the Hawk's ability to meet them. The mechanics only concern was piston seize from overheating on long high speed runs. In the heat. Wonder if an oil cooler could be rigged up. I know a guy who seized a piston on a Yammy 250 in Costa Rica. He did a top end in the parking lot of his hotel and scraped the cylinder walls with a knife to clean up the scoring. Made it all the way to Chile.:lmao:

Weldangrind 01-28-2016 10:28 AM

There are two types of oil cooler for the CG motor that I've seen; one has a bypass valve, and the other does not. Either cooler provides a new valve cover, and it taps into the pressurized oil that feeds the valve springs. An IN and OUT fitting on the valve cover are then connected to supplied braided hoses (via banjo fittings), and then connected to the heat exchanger. There is at least a couple of heat exchanger sizes to choose from.


You'd have to cobble some mounting brackets together, but that would be the hardest part.


Here's one: http://world.taobao.com/item/1868825...1.14.77.YOji84

Wolftrax 01-29-2016 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 203507)
There are two types of oil cooler for the CG motor that I've seen; one has a bypass valve, and the other does not. Either cooler provides a new valve cover, and it taps into the pressurized oil that feeds the valve springs. An IN and OUT fitting on the valve cover are then connected to supplied braided hoses (via banjo fittings), and then connected to the heat exchanger. There is at least a couple of heat exchanger sizes to choose from.


You'd have to cobble some mounting brackets together, but that would be the hardest part.


Here's one: http://world.taobao.com/item/1868825...1.14.77.YOji84

Brilliant Weld, thanks. The more I research Chinese bikes the more I like them, inexpensive parts and the awesome support of those community,

culcune 01-29-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 203418)
Do you have a shop nearby where I can setup the bike, gearing,jetting, change oil etc?

Sorry, I never answered you. We could do that in my carport, but the caveat is the desert HEAT this time of year. Then again, my wife was in Georgia last September and told me how hot and humid it was (and she knows heat living in this place!).

Wolftrax 01-30-2016 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by culcune (Post 203573)
Sorry, I never answered you. We could do that in my carport, but the caveat is the desert HEAT this time of year. Then again, my wife was in Georgia last September and told me how hot and humid it was (and she knows heat living in this place!).

Yes it is hot in Arizona, but its a dry heat.:lmao: In Georgia it's kind of like being in a sauna. Arizona is like a convection oven.

Wolftrax 01-30-2016 07:36 PM

OK, step 1 is complete, just placed my order for a black Hawk 250:). Now time to order parts:

1. Mikuni carb
2. Oil cooler
3. Stainless spokes
4. 17T countershaft sprocket
5. Jet assortment
6. Spitfire wind screen.

I doubt I'll have $200 in parts, gonna be my cheapest build ever, but then again that's the plan:clap:

I'll fab my own side racks to secure my GL Great Basin.

Hopefully I'll have the build done by the Virginia Horizon's meeting in May for a quick break in run

SpudRider 01-30-2016 08:49 PM

Good for you, Mark. :tup:

Weldangrind 02-01-2016 10:13 AM

I'm looking forward to following your build, Mark.

Wolftrax 02-01-2016 10:26 AM

Thanks Spud and Weld. This bike is going to be a blast to build and hopefully a success for it's chosen mission. I'm amazed at how inexpensive parts are. Plus the support on this forum is terrific. Will definitely share my experiences here.

Wolftrax 02-03-2016 08:13 PM

The eagle has landed,excuse me, I mean the Hawk has landed. Wasn't expecting it till Friday. Ordered Monday from Dallas and it arrived today in Rabun County Georgia. Unfortunately I'm in Harrisonburg Va and won't get home till Friday. Heck I don't even no if I goth the stealthy black one or the faster red.

culcune 02-03-2016 08:39 PM

I am happy to read about this, but selfishly upset that you most likely will not be riding through Yuma :) . Seriously, I am happy to read of such a ride, because I have been thinking of setting low-budget tours from Yuma on Chinabikes, and the Hawk is about as low in price as one can go! I would be interested to know all the bolts you plan on replacing before the ride (or the ones you figure out that need replacing from your break-in riding).

Now, I need someone to copy your ride on a CSC TT, CSC RX3, and one of the Bashan 229cc enduros, and perhaps even on a Pitster Pro XTR (I have been eyeing one of those for my tax return...).

Wolftrax 02-03-2016 08:59 PM

Hi
Quote:

Originally Posted by culcune (Post 203923)
I am happy to read about this, but selfishly upset that you most likely will not be riding through Yuma :) . Seriously, I am happy to read of such a ride, because I have been thinking of setting low-budget tours from Yuma on Chinabikes, and the Hawk is about as low in price as one can go! I would be interested to know all the bolts you plan on replacing before the ride (or the ones you figure out that need replacing from your break-in riding).

Now, I need someone to copy your ride on a CSC TT, CSC RX3, and one of the Bashan 229cc enduros, and perhaps even on a Pitster Pro XTR (I have been eyeing one of those for my tax return...).

I am still planning on going through Baja and Yuma is on the way. I would still like to take you up on your hospitality. I would.love to sit down with you and discuss your rental/tour plans.

Wolftrax 02-03-2016 09:09 PM

I'm almost embarrassed to quote how little this build will be. For less than the price of a set of Tourtech Zega Pros I'll be touring in style on my China Bike. Go far, Go slow, Go light.

TXDSRIDER 02-04-2016 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by culcune (Post 203923)
I am happy to read about this, but selfishly upset that you most likely will not be riding through Yuma :) . Seriously, I am happy to read of such a ride, because I have been thinking of setting low-budget tours from Yuma on Chinabikes, and the Hawk is about as low in price as one can go! I would be interested to know all the bolts you plan on replacing before the ride (or the ones you figure out that need replacing from your break-in riding).

Now, I need someone to copy your ride on a CSC TT, CSC RX3, and one of the Bashan 229cc enduros, and perhaps even on a Pitster Pro XTR (I have been eyeing one of those for my tax return...).

That XTR seems overpriced seems like a Hawk with adjustable suspension. What makes it worth it just wondering. Now the LXR that is liquid cooled 4 valve oh I like that.


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