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FastDoc 09-28-2011 11:33 AM

There's gotta be some forum you can join for people who work on old Suzukis. :P

katoranger 09-29-2011 09:39 AM

http://www.suzukits.com/


That bike reminds my of the kawasaki my Dad had when I was little. It was a 100, but I don't know the model.

katoranger 09-29-2011 09:41 AM

It was one of these.

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/kaw..._g4tr_1972.php

Weldangrind 09-29-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger
http://www.suzukits.com/


That bike reminds my of the kawasaki my Dad had when I was little. It was a 100, but I don't know the model.

Thanks for the link!

Weldangrind 10-11-2011 02:27 AM

Did a little work on the TS185 today, once the XR250S was finished. I started with Castrol Super Clean and a pressure washer, and also took the broken fenders off, along with the seat and side panels. I took the exhaust system off and heated it with a torch to burn 30 years of oil out of it. At my next opportunity, I'll clean out the carb, inspect the clutch and try to make sense of the rats nest of wires.

Here's what the bike is supposed to look like:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ochure_900.jpg

Here's ours the day we brought it home:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...85/78TS185.jpg

When I was draining the tank, I discovered that the tank mount is broken. It's good to have a welder.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06054.jpg

This is just some of what I need to sort out:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06055.jpg

deputygene 10-13-2011 01:21 PM

Great Find! I had a 73 or 4, TS 185 when I was a teen. I rode the wheels off that thing for years. Had a TS 250 later, but it was heavier than the 185.
I have been thinking about getting another for awhile. There is an 80 DS 185 on ebay right now I have been watching.

Weldangrind 10-14-2011 10:01 AM

I found a TS250 engine on CL, and the mad scientist in me wants it badly. It has just been rebuilt with a new Wiseco piston and Boyesen reed, but I think I'll just focus on this 185 engine for now.

Weldangrind 10-14-2011 10:32 AM

I spotted a good deal on new EBC friction plates on eBay, so I grabbed 'em. I'll report on the installation upon arrival.

SpudRider 10-16-2011 12:05 AM

As always, I eagerly await your updates, Weld! :)

Spud :)

Weldangrind 10-16-2011 01:48 AM

Thanks. No noteworthy pics yet, but I did remove the headlight assembly to attack the rat's nest of wiring. It's not too far gone, since most of the electrical accessories work. The front brake lever has been replaced with a MX unit, so the brake switch is missing. I'll be looking for a new one.

I'm also going to get a universal rear fender like the one Doc bought for the Dirt Rat.

I cleaned out the carb last night, and the slow jet was completely plugged. A little carb cleaner and a welding tip cleaner solved that. I just wish I could figure out what the float level should be.

SpudRider 10-16-2011 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Thanks. No noteworthy pics yet, but I did remove the headlight assembly to attack the rat's nest of wiring. It's not too far gone, since most of the electrical accessories work. The front brake lever has been replaced with a MX unit, so the brake switch is missing. I'll be looking for a new one...

You might also wish to consider installing a hydraulic brake switch.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/pr...FamilyId=25925

This switch replaces the banjo bolt in the brake's master cylinder. However, you would also need to increase the length of the wires coming from this switch. ;)

Spud :)

Weldangrind 10-16-2011 02:08 AM

Nothing but drums on a '77 TS185. I need to pick up a simple lever with a switch.

SpudRider 10-16-2011 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Nothing but drums on a '77 TS185. I need to pick up a simple lever with a switch.

Oops! :oops: I forgot to look closely at the front wheel. ;)

Spud :)

Weldangrind 10-17-2011 02:24 AM

Made some slow progress this weekend. Took the carb off for cleaning, removed the clutch cover in preparation for installing new friction discs and removed the engine.

The carb is unlike any I've worked on. One throttle cable splits into two; one side pulls the throttle open, and the other operates the oil injector. There is another cable (the grey one in the pic) that pulls the throttle closed.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06063.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06064.jpg

This is the top of the carb, followed by a shot of the slider down and then up. It uses a bellcrank-type mechanism to actuate the slider. It feels very precise, but heavy.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06074.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06075.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06076.jpg

This is the slow jet before and after. No wonder it wouldn't idle.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06072.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06077.jpg

The clutch cover is typical, but the clutch linkage isn't. I was surprised to see how clean the clutch and interior is. Kind of surprised that the clutch was slipping that badly at high RPM.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06083.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06081.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06084.jpg

It might be that the clutch is fine, and the chain was slipping on the countershaft sprocket. You think?

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06085.jpg

I can also see that it was the shifter seal that was leaking on my driveway. I was able to get numbers off of it, so I'll grab a new seal at Precise Bearing. I might as well do the countershaft seal at the same time.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/DSC06086.jpg

I'm not feeling any lateral or vertical play in the crankshaft, so I think we have a winner. Since I already bought the friction discs, I'm gonna soak 'em and install them, but I really need to order new sprockets and a chain.

SpudRider 10-17-2011 03:00 AM

Yikes! I've never seen a countershaft sprocket so worn! 8O

Spud :)


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