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BlackBike 11-26-2016 08:31 PM

I saw the .33 second point but did not show much other than the fact that it is going on the underside. Also wanted a look at the giant potbelly cat to see if they had cleaned it up any. I'm with Rt, this is the only let down as far as I can tell now. But if they give me the prototype i will be happy to take off a month or so and test to rtkiing's house and back to see if it works. :)

BlackBike 11-27-2016 06:09 PM

ccm 450gp
 
this $12k, not for sale in the usa, bmw based 450 engine , has a nice example of what could be done with the rx4 exhaust.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...VXm3GjxNqtGgjM

450cc in rx3 clothes:
http://www.chinariders.net/picture.p...&pictureid=763

Jay In Milpitas 12-02-2016 09:55 PM

Dakar Dragon Riders
 
Looks like five riders will be on Zongshen!
http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2017/us/r...ist-bikes.html

Azhule 12-03-2016 11:01 AM

My dream bike... and it's a Zong built for the Dakar!

130kg, 450cc liquid cooled fuel injected engine, 8 gallon gas tank... in a dual sport package :tup:

Now if they can slap some lights, a horn, etc. to make it street legal in 'Merica, and I will buy at least 2 of them :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SU__125jgg

BlackBike 12-03-2016 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azhule (Post 237298)
My dream bike... and it's a Zong built for the Dakar!

130kg, 450cc liquid cooled fuel injected engine, 8 gallon gas tank... in a dual sport package :tup:

Now if they can slap some lights, a horn, etc. to make it street legal in 'Merica, and I will buy at least 2

I haven't seen those specs on the race bike.:tup: Would be nice for the retail market but would be an expensive risk for North merica market. I would love to see it. I think the rx4 will be an adequate substitute. I know you are aware that all that race tech comes at a steep price, but I like your thinking. if they can carve out a desired niche in the market it might work.

Will have to go to the ol truck stop to view this one on the free wifi. ( keep laughing, I don't have the cheap city internet, it's the price I pay for living "out here" :lmao:)

I am excited that the Zong quality is finally evolving to the higher hp realm

BlackBike 12-03-2016 02:00 PM

Almost there, has headlight and brake tail. Just needs "winkers" ;)

jbfla 12-06-2016 06:18 PM

https://youtu.be/0SU__125jgg

I noticed the prominent display of the new Zongshen "Dragon" logo.

jb

rojo_grande 12-06-2016 09:50 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU_O2RB3nik

Another good video of the bike. Custom frame, lots of carbon fiber.
Add blinkers, horn, sub-frame to hold some saddlebags, a comfy seat and you've got a pretty sweet little adv bike.

BlackBike 12-06-2016 09:52 PM

jbfla...watched once, forgot, where these gentlemen speaking french?

i guess they are going to drop any mention of zonshein, and go with just cyclone from now on, such as Cyclone model rx3, Cyclone model rx4, etc etc.

so unless trump ruins the trade with china, my bike will be known as a Cyclone Motorcycle Company Model RX4, then rebadged as a CSC RX4... AHHHHHHH, WHAT EVER, TAKE MY MONEY!!!!

AdventureDad 12-07-2016 01:17 PM

It seems to me, that they would want name recognition worldwide and continuity of name/brand. I don't think that it should be rebranded or rebadged in every country it is sold in. But that is just me

jbfla 12-07-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdventureDad (Post 237542)
It seems to me, that they would want name recognition worldwide and continuity of name/brand. I don't think that it should be rebranded or rebadged in every country it is sold in. But that is just me

AD, I agree. It seems that if Zongshen wants to compete in the world market, and differentiate themselves from the dozens of other Chinese motorcycle manufacturers, they would promote their name on all their products.....like the other companies do.....


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...sosfuuvfw.jpeg


According to an article in China Motorcycle News, Zongshen has adopted the name Cyclone and the dragon logo as their worldwide motorcycle name... :hmm:

The dragon logo is not bad, but few people will know what company it represents; same for the Cyclone name.

I still prefer the old Zongshen logo:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psgvi8c9gs.jpg


jb

Jay In Milpitas 12-07-2016 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbfla (Post 237546)


According to an article in China Motorcycle News, Zongshen has adopted the name Cyclone and the dragon logo as their worldwide motorcycle name... :hmm:

The dragon logo is not bad, but few people will know what company it represents; same for the Cyclone name.

jb

Once upon a time nobody knew what the profile wing (Honda) stood for. Same with that prancing horse car emblem.
All in good time.

2LZ 12-08-2016 09:51 AM

I can kind of understand not wanting to flash the Zongshen name up front and going with "Cyclone" or something more generic. The biggest stumbling block of success Zong faces isn't quality, price or global market saturation, it's the paranoia of the American buyer that it's "Chinese".

All of us face that comment every time we take a bike out and it's been that way the entire decade I've owned CB's. What IS selling the bikes is us taking them out and getting exposure. We've all heard, "Nice looking bike! It's really Chinese?"
One person at a time is a rough way to market.

jbfla 12-08-2016 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 237568)
......... it's the paranoia of the American buyer that it's "Chinese".....

....One person at a time is a rough way to market.

It's not only the American buyer.

Another article in China Motorcycle News mentioned that the Zongshen motorcycle factory in Thailand stopped building motorcycles, and converted to ATV manufacture due to the Thai attitude that buying a used Japanese bike is better than a new Chinese bike.

I 've received a lot of kidding from my riding buddies about my Chinese motorcycle.

But when they see it in person are pleasantly surprised.....but not enough to buy one.

jb

AdventureDad 12-08-2016 12:24 PM

On advrider, folks are going nuts over the upcoming Versys. 300 release. I think if our bikes compared comparably with a lower price point, it will be a shot in the arm for the cyclone. I do think that worldwide, they need to market it better and I agree with dropping the Chinese name. It needs to compete on reliability, finish and durability rather than country of origin... which, right or wrong does seem polarizing and it does scare people away.


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