Chines bike maybe

arca · 01-29-2019, 08:27 AM

I have a chines bike, i think so.
Engine didnt start and i want to open the engine and do a clear from everything but i need to know what spare parts i can use. I have a 164FML Engine 200cc vertical.

I cant find nothing about it on Internet. Is this engine a CG200 or something else?

I need help with this. If i can revive the engine i would do evrything new on the bike. she is very old was from my friends father and he is nos abaout 70 years old

maybe can someone help my with this engine (i only can see 164FML and on the side of the engine CDI in big).

thx

Weldangrind · 01-29-2019, 11:30 AM

Welcome! It sounds like you might have a CB200, based on the cover that says CDI. Please share a picture.

humanbeing · 01-29-2019, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Welcome! It sounds like you might have a CB200, based on the cover that says CDI. Please share a picture.

& http://chinariders.net/showpost.php?...85&postcount=4

arca · 01-30-2019, 03:20 AM

What do your mean CB200 or CG200? I think it is a CG200 on the second img you can see this screw in the middle of the engine. I'm right?

Megadan · 01-30-2019, 04:57 AM

That is a CG based pushrod engine. The big giveaway is the big flathead cap on the cylinder body where the cam followers go, so yes you are right. You could call it a CG200 if you wanted to.

arca · 01-30-2019, 05:17 AM

Can i buy spare parts for CG200 will work 100% to repair it or have i a problem?

**JerryHawk250** · 01-30-2019, 07:36 AM

You can find parts for the CG200 engine here. https://www.motopartsmax.com/index.p...92/tID/2/eID/7
You can also find parts on Ebay, Amazon and Aliexpress if you know what you are looking for.

arca · 01-30-2019, 08:40 AM

great thx. i will come with update when i strip down the engine and do some work.
Can someone tell my what i need for the first start. I dont have any electronic or somthing its all cut in twice : /.
Need new 200cc CDI, Coil, Battery and complet wiring right? something more? Need I more thing for engine start?

Thx a lot for all the help!

arca · 01-30-2019, 08:47 AM

are some CG200 repair manual available too?

**JerryHawk250** · 01-30-2019, 09:26 AM

Here's a link to the GC125-150. Basically all the same. Just different piston and cylinder size.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...o0qsnnbW5KVmrI
There are a few others available if you do a google search for Honda CG125 manual.

humanbeing · 01-30-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by arca

What do your mean CB200 or CG200?

Chinese are lazy ass. CB/ CG are based from Honda. CB- OHC | CG - OHV There's some crazy stuff http://ku-motor.blogspot.com/2012/06/blog-post.html can be fitted in CG case.

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Originally Posted by arca

...Need new 200cc CDI, Coil, Battery and complet wiring right...

U forgotten the "spark plug". Anyways http://www.dansmc.com/mc_repaircourse.htm will guides u.
Most chinese CG uses square CDi (as Kymco CK125) , some are round (as Honda CG)

The basics are shown in http://www.sanxin.com.cn/Exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=5 . Jump some wires when need.
If bike's alternator still OK ***AC-cdi*** battery is optional IF u can bump/ kickstart it manually. Quick fix for BAD source coil= swap to "DC-CDI" which needs battery & rectifier.

arca · 01-31-2019, 04:18 AM

Spark plug yeah : )

i will go with a AC-CDI (need then only Spark plug, Coil, AC-CDI right?) an try to kick first after see if the engine is OK.

NzBrakelathes · 02-01-2019, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arca

Spark plug yeah : )

i will go with a AC-CDI (need then only Spark plug, Coil, AC-CDI right?) an try to kick first after see if the engine is OK.

You will need to work out what the stator has output for, either AC ignition or not. which I think is the red wire or DC which then has 3 yellow for charging, blue/white trace for pickup and green white trace pickup earth. HumansBeing knows this better then me.

I can supply parts if needed

arca · 02-02-2019, 01:54 PM

I take the time today to repair my 2 stroke 125 and then I have a bit of time free so I take all the pitbike apart. I need some more time for the engine. I'm not a mechanic so I need to learn on the way I do it

I see trough the engine and the air intake and the explosion camber didn't see wery well, was brown... But I need to see if it only dirty then I can clean it.

So I want to do some mini-motard with slick tires and so. Do you think it is possible from this frame out or can I just forget it

?

I hace this 2 wire cables coming out. The big one from starter and the smaller from stator in the engine.

arca · 02-05-2019, 04:54 AM

So I want to do some mini-motard with slick tires, rear and front brake like a normal bike and something more. Do you think it is possible from this frame out or can I just forget it ?

Nobody can tell my something about this if its possible?

01-29-2019, 08:27 AM	#1
arca Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 24	Chines bike maybe I have a chines bike, i think so. Engine didnt start and i want to open the engine and do a clear from everything but i need to know what spare parts i can use. I have a 164FML Engine 200cc vertical. I cant find nothing about it on Internet. Is this engine a CG200 or something else? I need help with this. If i can revive the engine i would do evrything new on the bike. she is very old was from my friends father and he is nos abaout 70 years old maybe can someone help my with this engine (i only can see 164FML and on the side of the engine CDI in big). thx
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01-29-2019, 11:30 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Welcome! It sounds like you might have a CB200, based on the cover that says CDI. Please share a picture. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-30-2019, 04:57 AM	#5
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,990	That is a CG based pushrod engine. The big giveaway is the big flathead cap on the cylinder body where the cam followers go, so yes you are right. You could call it a CG200 if you wanted to. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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01-30-2019, 07:36 AM	#7
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,554	You can find parts for the CG200 engine here. https://www.motopartsmax.com/index.p...92/tID/2/eID/7 You can also find parts on Ebay, Amazon and Aliexpress if you know what you are looking for. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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01-30-2019, 09:26 AM	#10
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,554	Here's a link to the GC125-150. Basically all the same. Just different piston and cylinder size. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...o0qsnnbW5KVmrI There are a few others available if you do a google search for Honda CG125 manual. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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01-30-2019, 05:17 AM	#6
arca Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 24	Can i buy spare parts for CG200 will work 100% to repair it or have i a problem?
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01-30-2019, 08:40 AM	#8
arca Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 24	great thx. i will come with update when i strip down the engine and do some work. Can someone tell my what i need for the first start. I dont have any electronic or somthing its all cut in twice : /. Need new 200cc CDI, Coil, Battery and complet wiring right? something more? Need I more thing for engine start? Thx a lot for all the help!
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01-30-2019, 08:47 AM	#9
arca Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 24	are some CG200 repair manual available too?
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01-31-2019, 04:18 AM	#12
arca Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 24	Spark plug yeah : ) i will go with a AC-CDI (need then only Spark plug, Coil, AC-CDI right?) an try to kick first after see if the engine is OK.
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02-05-2019, 04:54 AM	#15
arca Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 24	So I want to do some mini-motard with slick tires, rear and front brake like a normal bike and something more. Do you think it is possible from this frame out or can I just forget it ? Nobody can tell my something about this if its possible?
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