? about tires

brianjmt · 06-25-2019, 03:28 PM

I am thinking of purchasing the Brozz blue eagle well I was like 99% that way. There is one draw back/ deal breaker as I can see and that is tires. The tires listed for the brozz blue eagle are front 90/90/19 and rear 110/90/17. Tires will be the first ting to go. In fact I intended on changing them out as I assembled the bike.

Here is the issue and glad I did some research all i can find is shinko 244's in these sizes or closest size that I can. Am I missing something here with these tire sizes are they just not any "brand name tires" in these sizes? I dont want to buy a motorcycle and have to run the same tires all the time and the china factory ones is a no go for me period. Tire options/ sizes that will work?

Thanks for any help.

Sport Rider · 06-25-2019, 03:41 PM

I ran kenda's on my hawk. I never worry about higher end brand names when it comes to tires like this. I have run shinkos on several street bikes including some low end track days on a sport bike. I trust them pretty well.

personal choice though.

**JerryHawk250** · 06-25-2019, 03:43 PM

What type of tire you looking for? Street? Off Road? Dual Sport?

Wild Dog · 06-25-2019, 03:59 PM

The 19/17 combo is mostly for an adventure or dual purpose motorcycle. So you are not going to find as many type of knoobies that you would find on a 21/18 combo.

I also have 19/17 and this is what i run. Plus i agree with what the guy says.

They are 60 on road 40 off road.

If you are going to use the bike 80% of the time off road, then look for a china bike with 21/18

2LZ · 06-25-2019, 04:26 PM

Shinko, Kenda, etc...are all good quality tires. I've had no issues with them and they're affordable. I'm currently running the Shinko 700's and love them.

brianjmt · 06-25-2019, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

What type of tire you looking for? Street? Off Road? Dual Sport?

Looking for something about 60/40 road/off road use. Off road will be gravel and dirt roads. Nothing that would require a dirt bike tire. I dont like kenda's at all. Shinko are ok but I just dont want to be stuck with one brand and tire style. the back does seem to be that difficult size but the front is where the problem is. Plus I guess I need to find out the rim size see if a 100 would work instead of a 90. I doubt it though. I just dont know why they want to but these odd ball tire sizes on these bikes. He got the bike features right except the damn tire size.

Wild Dog · 06-25-2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brianjmt

Looking for something about 60/40 road/off road use. Off road will be gravel and dirt roads. Nothing that would require a dirt bike tire. I dont like kenda's at all. Shinko are ok but I just dont want to be stuck with one brand and tire style. the back does seem to be that difficult size but the front is where the problem is. Plus I guess I need to find out the rim size see if a 100 would work instead of a 90. I doubt it though. I just dont know why they want to but these odd ball tire sizes on these bikes. He got the bike features right except the damn tire size.

They are not oddball, it is the size that a lot of adventure motorcycle and dual motorcycle use, BWM, KTM and Ducatti are some of the Mfg that use 19/17 on some of their models.
In fact for the type of riding you want to do, that rim combo will suit you better than 21/18. Gravel and dirt is an easy task for them, even when using dual sport tires.

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kingofqueenz · 06-25-2019, 06:33 PM

Do you change the tires yourself or take them to a local shop?

GronkFries · 06-25-2019, 06:38 PM

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Do you change the tires yourself or take them to a local shop?

Always change your own tires. Just make sure you spray the soapy water and push the bottom of the tire into the rim with your knees so it goes on easier. That, a set of $20 tire irons, $15 nylon hammer style bead breaker, rim protectors, valve tool and a few tire changing vids on youtube and you're in business.

roundhouse · 06-25-2019, 08:06 PM

I have about 1500 miles on shinkos 705s i am really impressed with their grip. They do pretty good on hard packed gravel but i would get maybe the 700 for looser stuff.

Megadan · 06-25-2019, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by roundhouse

I have about 1500 miles on shinkos 705s i am really impressed with their grip. They do pretty good on hard packed gravel but i would get maybe the 700 for looser stuff.

Having had both on a Hawk, I would go for the 700 every time. The 705 is great on road, but the 700 is 90 percent as good on road, and much much better off road.

brianjmt · 06-25-2019, 10:42 PM

Yes I can change my own it is a bitch some times but I can do it. Actually after I thought about it some today. I would probably say that I would do 80/20 on/off road not really into the whole mud thing like I once was either.

I may go down later this week time permitting and take a look at the blue eagle. See what rims come on it and how much room I will have to play with. Looks like I will be very limited in brand and style as of now. I have only found the shinko 244 that will work. If this is the case then the bike will be a no go. Glad I held off on ordering some of my mods in. Thanks for all the help guys. I let you know how it goes.

kingofqueenz · 06-25-2019, 11:23 PM

Thanks Gronk.

Any nay sayers around using a C-clamp to break the bead ?

Youtube can take you down the wormhole in terms of ideas on how to break the bead... I;ve seen crazy McGuyver approaches to the simple approach of beatin it with a hammer.

Thanks

pete · 06-26-2019, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Wild Dog

They are not oddball, it is the size that a lot of adventure motorcycle and dual motorcycle use, BWM, KTM and Ducatti are some of the Mfg that use 19/17 on some of their models.
In fact for the type of riding you want to do, that rim combo will suit you better than 21/18. Gravel and dirt is an easy task for them, even when using dual sport tires.

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There are a few bikes that run the 19/17 combo..
but 21/17 or 21/18 are the norm for ADV and Duel sport bikes..

80/20 tyres...
I know they are not cheap but they are out there...
Avon Distanzia.. 19 & 17..
Continental TKC70...19 & 17..
Full Bore "USA" … 19 & 17...Shinko 705 copy... <<=====================
Metzeler Tourance… 19 & 17..
Metzeler Tourance next... 19 & 17..
Metzeler Karoo 3..19 & 17..
Michelin Anakee 3...19 & 17..
Michelin Anakee Adventure... 19 & 17..
Pirelli Scorpion STR trail.... 19 & 17..

And there is lots more... but the 19 front dose tend to be for the bigger bikes...
not meany smaller than 110

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brianjmt · 06-26-2019, 04:02 AM

I did some research on here read all the tire threads took awhile. SO my rim sizes are

front rim 1.85 OEM tire size 90/90/19

rear rim 2.50 OEM tire size 110/90/17

From what I can take from the posts.
Tire size 100/90/19 will fit on the front. Several people sorta wasnt comfortable with this.

The rear 120/90/17 will work just fine.

Ill give a few bike shops a call tomorrow and see what they have to say.

Thanks everyone for the help.

06-25-2019, 03:28 PM	#1
brianjmt Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 43	? about tires I am thinking of purchasing the Brozz blue eagle well I was like 99% that way. There is one draw back/ deal breaker as I can see and that is tires. The tires listed for the brozz blue eagle are front 90/90/19 and rear 110/90/17. Tires will be the first ting to go. In fact I intended on changing them out as I assembled the bike. Here is the issue and glad I did some research all i can find is shinko 244's in these sizes or closest size that I can. Am I missing something here with these tire sizes are they just not any "brand name tires" in these sizes? I dont want to buy a motorcycle and have to run the same tires all the time and the china factory ones is a no go for me period. Tire options/ sizes that will work? Thanks for any help.
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06-25-2019, 04:26 PM	#5
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,078	Shinko, Kenda, etc...are all good quality tires. I've had no issues with them and they're affordable. I'm currently running the Shinko 700's and love them. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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06-25-2019, 03:41 PM	#2
Sport Rider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 2,037	I ran kenda's on my hawk. I never worry about higher end brand names when it comes to tires like this. I have run shinkos on several street bikes including some low end track days on a sport bike. I trust them pretty well. personal choice though.
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06-25-2019, 03:59 PM	#4
Wild Dog Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Argentina Posts: 756	The 19/17 combo is mostly for an adventure or dual purpose motorcycle. So you are not going to find as many type of knoobies that you would find on a 21/18 combo. I also have 19/17 and this is what i run. Plus i agree with what the guy says. They are 60 on road 40 off road. If you are going to use the bike 80% of the time off road, then look for a china bike with 21/18
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06-25-2019, 06:33 PM	#8
kingofqueenz Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Strong Island New Yawk Posts: 464	Do you change the tires yourself or take them to a local shop?
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06-25-2019, 08:06 PM	#10
roundhouse Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: N Texas Posts: 706	I have about 1500 miles on shinkos 705s i am really impressed with their grip. They do pretty good on hard packed gravel but i would get maybe the 700 for looser stuff.
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06-25-2019, 10:42 PM	#12
brianjmt Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 43	Yes I can change my own it is a bitch some times but I can do it. Actually after I thought about it some today. I would probably say that I would do 80/20 on/off road not really into the whole mud thing like I once was either. I may go down later this week time permitting and take a look at the blue eagle. See what rims come on it and how much room I will have to play with. Looks like I will be very limited in brand and style as of now. I have only found the shinko 244 that will work. If this is the case then the bike will be a no go. Glad I held off on ordering some of my mods in. Thanks for all the help guys. I let you know how it goes.
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06-25-2019, 11:23 PM	#13
kingofqueenz Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Strong Island New Yawk Posts: 464	Thanks Gronk. Any nay sayers around using a C-clamp to break the bead ? Youtube can take you down the wormhole in terms of ideas on how to break the bead... I;ve seen crazy McGuyver approaches to the simple approach of beatin it with a hammer. Thanks
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06-26-2019, 04:02 AM	#15
brianjmt Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 43	I did some research on here read all the tire threads took awhile. SO my rim sizes are front rim 1.85 OEM tire size 90/90/19 rear rim 2.50 OEM tire size 110/90/17 From what I can take from the posts. Tire size 100/90/19 will fit on the front. Several people sorta wasnt comfortable with this. The rear 120/90/17 will work just fine. Ill give a few bike shops a call tomorrow and see what they have to say. Thanks everyone for the help.
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