putting my hawk together no spark -_-

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 08:03 PM

Where should I look is there something I missed ?

And i have a new gauge cluster also and have about 2/3 a gallon in the tank and it reads empty still ?

oddthought · 07-27-2016, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shanesnofear

Where should I look is there something I missed ?

And i have a new gauge cluster also and have about 2/3 a gallon in the tank and it reads empty still ?

Trace the wires back as far as you can, making each connection solid. If something can be unplugged, unplug it and put it back in. Make sure that the battery is connected solidly on both terminals. Ensure that the negative terminal lead is connected to the chassis/engine to provide a good ground.

w0ss · 07-27-2016, 08:25 PM

check the kill switch first. The gas gauge is really really bad most say. Mine from the factory showed empty with 2 gallons in it. Might need to bend the wire. Others have said if you fill it up all the way then it starts working.

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 08:41 PM

the gas gauge is actually reading now and ill keep checking but i got zero spark .. I disconnected the green wire too the coil ... I think thats the kill switch ... Kinda sucks I gotta rip it more apart to figure out ...

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 08:41 PM

and it turns no problem just zero spark... would that mean there could still be a bad ground ?

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 09:28 PM

wow few hours of just looking at this thing feeling like a fucking retard ....

wiring ... the black wire has 12 volts going too the cdi ... now this is where shit goes too shit because the wiring diagram seems not right ...

I checked the black white wire coming from the magneto and it did do something on the meter but i am not sure how to test that right ...

the coil seems to be getting zero power from what it seems and I disconnected the green wire too the cdi by removing the pin ... from the wireing that seems to be the ground for the kill switch and no change

firebank · 07-27-2016, 09:37 PM

I put 40 miles on mine and lost spark. Hoping bad magnetic, got one in the mail.

humanbeing · 07-27-2016, 09:47 PM

1.Stator [Energy/ when] http://chinariders.net/showpost.php?...00&postcount=8
2. CDI http://sanxin.com.cn/Exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=6 | http://sanxin.com.cn/info5/index.asp?id=16
3. Coil http://sanxin.com.cn/info5/index.asp?id=20

humanbeing · 07-27-2016, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shanesnofear

wiring ... the black wire has 12 volts going too the cdi ... now ...

DC-CDI system ie. Replaced [Red/black] exciter wire from AC-CDI system by +12v (black) in 2-pin connector
Black/white Isn't that a standard color for s/w OFF (trace from the lock...) in AC-CDI (DC system Cut +12V supply)!!!

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 10:20 PM

the cdi is under the seat its not the thing under the gas tank with the fins ?

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 10:55 PM

wow alright so i was testing the voltage regulator lol ..

so what stator runs to the voltage regulator then from there too the cdi thenn too the coil ?

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 11:10 PM

OK i am not sure anymore...

the kill switch runs to the cdi right...

Power should go to the cdi also right ?

Its getting late i been going crazy lol

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 11:17 PM

ok so the 2 plug on the cdi is
black white kill switch ... so thats a ground
and then the other one black red i think it is should have positive power too it right ?

and humanbeing sorry i was so confused i was looking at the wrong part but what do you mean ?

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 11:32 PM

My ac ignition switch wire at the cdi seems to be getting no dc ... specially not 12 volts so I would assume thats my problem ?

Ok its supposed to be AC lol Ic i get 65 volts ac why cranking on the ac ignition wire

shanesnofear · 07-27-2016, 11:55 PM

Wow i typed a lot ... I learned a few things also lol

Ok CDI stuffs
Trigger ohmed to 150 ohms so thats OK
AC Ignition power 60-65 volts AC so thats OK
OHM'ed out Kill Switch "key off shows ohm / key on shows no ohm" so thats OK

least i am getting closer to the problem

07-27-2016, 08:03 PM	#1
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	putting my hawk together no spark -_- Where should I look is there something I missed ? And i have a new gauge cluster also and have about 2/3 a gallon in the tank and it reads empty still ?
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07-27-2016, 08:25 PM	#3
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	check the kill switch first. The gas gauge is really really bad most say. Mine from the factory showed empty with 2 gallons in it. Might need to bend the wire. Others have said if you fill it up all the way then it starts working. __________________ Hawk 250 with following performance mods: 17t, Mikuni with 110/25, Uni filter, Exhaust.
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07-27-2016, 09:47 PM	#8
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	1.Stator [Energy/ when] http://chinariders.net/showpost.php?...00&postcount=8 2. CDI http://sanxin.com.cn/Exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=6 \| http://sanxin.com.cn/info5/index.asp?id=16 3. Coil http://sanxin.com.cn/info5/index.asp?id=20 __________________ Last edited by humanbeing; 08-25-2016 at 09:56 AM.
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07-27-2016, 08:41 PM	#4
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	the gas gauge is actually reading now and ill keep checking but i got zero spark .. I disconnected the green wire too the coil ... I think thats the kill switch ... Kinda sucks I gotta rip it more apart to figure out ...
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07-27-2016, 09:28 PM	#6
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	wow few hours of just looking at this thing feeling like a fucking retard .... wiring ... the black wire has 12 volts going too the cdi ... now this is where shit goes too shit because the wiring diagram seems not right ... I checked the black white wire coming from the magneto and it did do something on the meter but i am not sure how to test that right ... the coil seems to be getting zero power from what it seems and I disconnected the green wire too the cdi by removing the pin ... from the wireing that seems to be the ground for the kill switch and no change
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07-27-2016, 09:37 PM	#7
firebank Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 13	I put 40 miles on mine and lost spark. Hoping bad magnetic, got one in the mail.
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07-27-2016, 10:20 PM	#10
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	the cdi is under the seat its not the thing under the gas tank with the fins ?
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07-27-2016, 10:55 PM	#11
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	wow alright so i was testing the voltage regulator lol .. so what stator runs to the voltage regulator then from there too the cdi thenn too the coil ?
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07-27-2016, 11:10 PM	#12
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	OK i am not sure anymore... the kill switch runs to the cdi right... Power should go to the cdi also right ? Its getting late i been going crazy lol
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07-27-2016, 11:17 PM	#13
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	ok so the 2 plug on the cdi is black white kill switch ... so thats a ground and then the other one black red i think it is should have positive power too it right ? and humanbeing sorry i was so confused i was looking at the wrong part but what do you mean ?
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07-27-2016, 11:32 PM	#14
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	My ac ignition switch wire at the cdi seems to be getting no dc ... specially not 12 volts so I would assume thats my problem ? Ok its supposed to be AC lol Ic i get 65 volts ac why cranking on the ac ignition wire
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07-27-2016, 11:55 PM	#15
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	Wow i typed a lot ... I learned a few things also lol Ok CDI stuffs Trigger ohmed to 150 ohms so thats OK AC Ignition power 60-65 volts AC so thats OK OHM'ed out Kill Switch "key off shows ohm / key on shows no ohm" so thats OK least i am getting closer to the problem
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