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culcune · 08-29-2016, 09:27 PM

My old TMEC 200--I bought it used with unknown mileage--put 10k or so miles commuting. Bought a new TMEC 200 (the one I own). Started commuting on it. After a few hundred miles, same problem as yours; someone happened to post about his bike acting the same, and he fixed it with a new CDi. My bike was stranded at work; I took out my old CDi from my old bike, threw it in, and she started right up. I think it has to do with quality control, rather than unusual problems as that bike gave me another 10k miles.

vicbarber · 08-29-2016, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

My old TMEC 200--I bought it used with unknown mileage--put 10k or so miles commuting. Bought a new TMEC 200 (the one I own). Started commuting on it. After a few hundred miles, same problem as yours; someone happened to post about his bike acting the same, and he fixed it with a new CDi. My bike was stranded at work; I took out my old CDi from my old bike, threw it in, and she started right up. I think it has to do with quality control, rather than unusual problems as that bike gave me another 10k miles.

ok so ill definitely give it a try, if the cdi is bad it won't have spark at the plug?

Weldangrind · 08-30-2016, 10:31 AM

That could be a failure mode of the CDI. More commonly, a failed CDI will still allow the bike to start, but it won't rev properly.

I've had bad CDI's, bad coils and bad coil wires.

Bruce's · 08-30-2016, 12:59 PM

Weld ,when any of those three failed ,how long before the carb overflowed ?his carb has a stuck needle or float at the very least as he has stated 15 seconds and he is smelling gas and the carb is overflowing .

Weldangrind · 08-30-2016, 03:09 PM

I missed that detail. When you put it that way, it doesn't sound like an electrical problem. The carb should never overflow if the needle and seat are functioning properly.

culcune · 08-30-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

That could be a failure mode of the CDI. More commonly, a failed CDI will still allow the bike to start, but it won't rev properly.

I've had bad CDI's, bad coils and bad coil wires.

I got lucky--when mine failed, the bike would 'almost' start. The 'lucky' part was that someone with a Skyteam had the exact same issue here, which was being discussed, and it ended up being his CDI, which solved his bike not starting. I borrowed the CDI from my old TMEC, and that solved the issue. Excalibur Motorsports sent me a replacement CDI under warranty a few days later

vicbarber · 08-30-2016, 09:20 PM

Ok guys so it was the coil!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce's · 08-30-2016, 09:47 PM

Good for you ! Is the carb still overflowing ?

vicbarber · 08-30-2016, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce's

Good for you ! Is the carb still overflowing ?

No carb is good too!

Weldangrind · 08-31-2016, 11:01 AM

Glad to hear that it's solved.

08-29-2016, 09:27 PM	#31
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	My old TMEC 200--I bought it used with unknown mileage--put 10k or so miles commuting. Bought a new TMEC 200 (the one I own). Started commuting on it. After a few hundred miles, same problem as yours; someone happened to post about his bike acting the same, and he fixed it with a new CDi. My bike was stranded at work; I took out my old CDi from my old bike, threw it in, and she started right up. I think it has to do with quality control, rather than unusual problems as that bike gave me another 10k miles. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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08-30-2016, 10:31 AM	#33
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That could be a failure mode of the CDI. More commonly, a failed CDI will still allow the bike to start, but it won't rev properly. I've had bad CDI's, bad coils and bad coil wires. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-30-2016, 03:09 PM	#35
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I missed that detail. When you put it that way, it doesn't sound like an electrical problem. The carb should never overflow if the needle and seat are functioning properly. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-31-2016, 11:01 AM	#40
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Glad to hear that it's solved. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-30-2016, 12:59 PM	#34
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	Weld ,when any of those three failed ,how long before the carb overflowed ?his carb has a stuck needle or float at the very least as he has stated 15 seconds and he is smelling gas and the carb is overflowing .
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08-30-2016, 09:20 PM	#37
vicbarber Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27	Ok guys so it was the coil!!!!!!!!!!
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08-30-2016, 09:47 PM	#38
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	Good for you ! Is the carb still overflowing ?
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