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Old 03-30-2017, 11:54 PM   #1
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I personally think there's not many Enforcers left and he doesn't want to let them go at the old sale price , when he's getting a couple hundred more now. But who knows, that's only my guess...one of several.
That very well could be the case. When I spoke to him before I bought mine (early March), he seemed surprised by the price listed online and said it would change real soon. At the time, Although it seemed genuine, i figured it was a classic salesman line. However, it really could just be the case that they are really disorganized and messed up on the price, and then decided to cancel the orders and sell them at a higher price. That makes more sense than the credit card story he told.

I still think that, at least part of the story, is that something happened with their stock or supply of bikes they had access to.



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Old 03-30-2017, 11:25 PM   #2
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Until I receive my money back I am to assume that I got scammed by APSCUSA.COM for my hard earned money. If I receive my refund my opinion of APSCUSA and Don will change. After all before now I have seen nothing but good stuff about him on this site but I can't find much info anywhere else. I have been lurking around this site and in the market for a hawk for over a year. Check my join date. I am very disappointed that when I finally can make my purchase this happened.


 
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:15 PM   #3
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Until I receive my money back I am to assume that I got scammed by APSCUSA.COM for my hard earned money. If I receive my refund my opinion of APSCUSA and Don will change. After all before now I have seen nothing but good stuff about him on this site but I can't find much info anywhere else. I have been lurking around this site and in the market for a hawk for over a year. Check my join date. I am very disappointed that when I finally can make my purchase this happened.
As long as you bought it with a credit card you have nothing to worry about. The credit card will protect you...and if you did use a credit card, you aren't out anything yet anyways unless you have made payments. I'm not sticking up for Don...Don't get me wrong, his business practices suck, and even when you get your money back that will still be true. That's not how anyone should run a business regardless of the reasoning!!


 
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Old 03-31-2017, 01:05 PM   #4
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As long as you bought it with a credit card you have nothing to worry about. The credit card will protect you...and if you did use a credit card, you aren't out anything yet anyways unless you have made payments. I'm not sticking up for Don...Don't get me wrong, his business practices suck, and even when you get your money back that will still be true. That's not how anyone should run a business regardless of the reasoning!!
I unfortunately used a Prepaid Credit Card so I am out of every penny.


 
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Old 03-31-2017, 02:07 PM   #5
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I unfortunately used a Prepaid Credit Card so I am out of every penny.
Man... I almost went the same route, to keep my real CC info off the internet. I really hope it all gets figured out for you, soon.

On a different note, with 100% chance of rain for the ENTIRE duration of my birthday, looks like I'd be S.O.L. for riding, even if I got my bike (I can pretend I wouldn't ride in the rain!). Can't say I feel better about it, though; first year in nearly two decades that I don't get to take a birthday ride. oh, well.
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Old 03-31-2017, 07:59 PM   #6
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I unfortunately used a Prepaid Credit Card so I am out of every penny.
Pretty sure you WILL get your money back. Dons been around a while and he is known for his slow shipping, etc., but I really don't think he's a out & out thief like that. But you should definitely call the CC company again and keep on them too....I mean a prepaid credit card is still a credit card so they should protect you.

I don't blame you for being upset...you, and all of us, have every right to be.

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Old 04-06-2017, 03:15 PM   #7
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Angry Wtf??

Ordered an Enforcer from APSCUSA.COM online on 3/24. Received e-mail confirmation of order from the company and a confirmation #. The $$ was debited from my checking account on 3/27. Called on 4/4 to get an update on the status of my order as I hadn't heard from them. They said my order has a status of both Processing and Ready to Ship and the guy said that he needed to look into this more and that he would call me back. He never called me back, so I called the next day on 4/5 and spoke to the same guy who said that it was still being held-up in processing because the payment didn't go through. So he said that he would refund the money to my account and that he would send me an e-mail by the end of that day with details. I never received an e-mail, so I called back today (4/6) and spoke to the same guy. He told me he was going to try to refund me the money (even though he said he was going to do it yesterday) and that he would e-mail me within two hours. It has been 4 hours since I called and I have not received an e-mail back from the company. I had to call my bank and speak to the Disputes Department to get my money back. This will take 7 - 10 business days to fulled process.

They are real scam artists..Where can I get a decent bike without issues??
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Old 04-07-2017, 01:17 PM   #8
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I originally ordered a hawk February 05 and after a ton of phone calls and mails I finally got a Bashan Enforcer on wednesday. It was a struggle for sure but I got my bike after two months of waiting and praying. I would NOT recommend APSCUSA to anyone !!


 
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:56 AM   #9
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I am starting to wonder if this might be a case of a small shop growing too big too fast. Usually stuff like this starts happening in those sorts of situations. And more often then not the shop in question usually starts firing off a lot of excuses to hide the fact that they got in over their heads.
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:53 AM   #10
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Doh! Derp!

In case any of you were wondering... I ruptured my right bicep's distal tendon, so I won't be buying a new bike this year(months of phys therapy to go), but I'll be back again next Spring! Ride safe and enjoy the sunshine!
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Old 05-10-2017, 01:03 PM   #11
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In case any of you were wondering... I ruptured my right bicep's distal tendon, so I won't be buying a new bike this year(months of phys therapy to go), but I'll be back again next Spring! Ride safe and enjoy the sunshine!
Hope you heal up fast and thanks for letting us know.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:23 PM   #12
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Oh, fate... a Hawk just popped up for sale, about two towns over. 600mi, upgraded carb, sprockets, lights and chain. At $1400, I'm probably buying it this weekend. Given the 50/50 nature of getting one from a dealer, seems like a no-brainer. I'll just store it, until I'm healed enough to ride it on pavement. I totally won't sit on it and make riding noises for the next few months lol
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:28 AM   #13
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I totally won't sit on it and make riding noises for the next few months lol
Just make sure you do that when no one is around...trust me....
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:02 PM   #14
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Just make sure you do that when no one is around...trust me....
Definitely good advice!

Well, he decided to text me back @5:00am, to let me know I could see the Hawk @1pm. At 10:30am, he texted to let me know that the bike was sold. The bike which nobody could see, until 1pm. Sold, at 10:30am... Oh, well.

Check out the greeeeeaaaaaat deal on this Hawk! The only one for sale near me and it's oh so competitively priced lol

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/mcy/6143670133.html
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:48 PM   #15
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Definitely good advice!

Well, he decided to text me back @5:00am, to let me know I could see the Hawk @1pm. At 10:30am, he texted to let me know that the bike was sold. The bike which nobody could see, until 1pm. Sold, at 10:30am... Oh, well.

Check out the greeeeeaaaaaat deal on this Hawk! The only one for sale near me and it's oh so competitively priced lol

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/mcy/6143670133.html
...is the "Cool" stage lighting included?

These bikes are about trails , getting dirty, adventure and getting to those trails via freedom of the open roads. This individual definitely does not get it. Pathetic.
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