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maverickfe · 04-11-2015, 01:32 AM

been working on Yamaha atv and the HI Bird fixed the gas tank with sealer should fix it . I changed the oil in the HI Bird 250 on the other side of the motor are two plugs one on top the other on the bottom and one know what they are for ? Would they be for the trans if so what oil do I use ?

Thanks

Weldangrind · 04-11-2015, 11:12 AM

The cap is the first pic will reveal the cleanable oil filter and spring. Just clean the filter with a blast of WD-40, and make sure there are no holes. When you reinstall it, the rubber end of the filter goes in first, followed by the spring and then the cap.

The caps in the second pic are for turning the crankshaft for setting the valves. The large cap on the vertical surface reveals the nut that you turn, and the top cap on the horizontal surface reveals the marks on the flywheel.

The engine and transmission share the same oil; this is referred to as a unit motor. When you add oil through the dipstick hole, it flows to the transmission and the engine.

Weldangrind · 04-11-2015, 11:13 AM

BTW, the cap on the vertical surface is the large oval chrome cap that is secured by four screws. When you're ready to try adjusting the valves, let us know.

maverickfe · 04-11-2015, 12:19 PM

Weldangrind you came through again thank you. I used the very bottom plug to change the oil didn't know about that one big nut has a oil screen in it. Can I clean it and not loose any of the new oil I put in it? And would anyone know where I can get a manual for this thing?

thanks

humanbeing · 04-11-2015, 06:18 PM

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...Can I clean it and not loose any of the new oil I put in it?...where I can get a manual for this...

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Weldangrind · 04-12-2015, 12:12 PM

Thanks HB!

The short answer to your question is no; you can't remove the screen and not lose oil. As a point of trivia, the Honda XR200 that has a very similar bottom end lacks a drain plug under the motor like yours has. The only way to drain an XR200 is by the filter hole.

Adjuster · 04-12-2015, 02:36 PM

I thought I read somewhere about leaning the bike way over down on its side (gently and protected of course) and then you can remove and clean the screen without loosing any oil.

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Weldangrind · 04-13-2015, 01:40 AM

Perhaps. I've never tried that, since I've always been changing the oil anyway. Oil is cheap, and it's only a litre.

maverickfe · 04-13-2015, 08:04 AM

I will give it a try this weekend and see if that will work thanks .

maverickfe · 06-21-2015, 11:27 PM

Well been working on 3 atv's have all 3 running now found out what was bad with the kasea Skyhawk 250 found a article about no start on Kazuma racing they said to take the black and white wire on the cdi out from it's clip. I have a 6 wire cdi one wire was black and pink the other black and white so I just jumped the black and pink to the cdi left the other one not hooked up. And boy it stated right wow . So now I might have to get a new kill switch lol. Thanks for all the help to.

maverickfe · 06-22-2015, 12:02 AM

I do have another question I put two new carbs on the kasea Skyhawk 250cc what I would like to know is how do you a just them ? Is it just the same as a single carb? When it started I put my multimeter it has rpm meter on it and was idling at 750. I just left everything alone because it started lol.

humanbeing · 06-22-2015, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by maverickfe

...what was bad with the kasea Skyhawk 250 found a article about no start on Kazuma racing they said to take the black and white wire on the cdi out from it's clip. I have a 6 wire cdi one wire was black and pink the other black and white so I just jumped the black and pink ...

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I do have another question I put two new carbs on the kasea .

Which type?

maverickfe · 06-22-2015, 07:59 AM

It's the kill switch that is bad it has a brand new cdi on it. Thanks tho

04-11-2015, 11:12 AM	#32
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The cap is the first pic will reveal the cleanable oil filter and spring. Just clean the filter with a blast of WD-40, and make sure there are no holes. When you reinstall it, the rubber end of the filter goes in first, followed by the spring and then the cap. The caps in the second pic are for turning the crankshaft for setting the valves. The large cap on the vertical surface reveals the nut that you turn, and the top cap on the horizontal surface reveals the marks on the flywheel. The engine and transmission share the same oil; this is referred to as a unit motor. When you add oil through the dipstick hole, it flows to the transmission and the engine. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-11-2015, 11:13 AM	#33
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	BTW, the cap on the vertical surface is the large oval chrome cap that is secured by four screws. When you're ready to try adjusting the valves, let us know. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-12-2015, 12:12 PM	#36
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Thanks HB! The short answer to your question is no; you can't remove the screen and not lose oil. As a point of trivia, the Honda XR200 that has a very similar bottom end lacks a drain plug under the motor like yours has. The only way to drain an XR200 is by the filter hole. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-13-2015, 01:40 AM	#38
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Perhaps. I've never tried that, since I've always been changing the oil anyway. Oil is cheap, and it's only a litre. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-11-2015, 12:19 PM	#34
maverickfe Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 75	Weldangrind you came through again thank you. I used the very bottom plug to change the oil didn't know about that one big nut has a oil screen in it. Can I clean it and not loose any of the new oil I put in it? And would anyone know where I can get a manual for this thing? thanks
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04-12-2015, 02:36 PM	#37
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	I thought I read somewhere about leaning the bike way over down on its side (gently and protected of course) and then you can remove and clean the screen without loosing any oil. /
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04-13-2015, 08:04 AM	#39
maverickfe Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 75	I will give it a try this weekend and see if that will work thanks .
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06-21-2015, 11:27 PM	#40
maverickfe Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 75	Well been working on 3 atv's have all 3 running now found out what was bad with the kasea Skyhawk 250 found a article about no start on Kazuma racing they said to take the black and white wire on the cdi out from it's clip. I have a 6 wire cdi one wire was black and pink the other black and white so I just jumped the black and pink to the cdi left the other one not hooked up. And boy it stated right wow . So now I might have to get a new kill switch lol. Thanks for all the help to.
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06-22-2015, 12:02 AM	#41
maverickfe Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 75	I do have another question I put two new carbs on the kasea Skyhawk 250cc what I would like to know is how do you a just them ? Is it just the same as a single carb? When it started I put my multimeter it has rpm meter on it and was idling at 750. I just left everything alone because it started lol.
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06-22-2015, 07:59 AM	#43
maverickfe Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 75	It's the kill switch that is bad it has a brand new cdi on it. Thanks tho
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