New X33... Blue crap in tank and yellow crap in carb..lol

Rabbit121 · 10-12-2010, 09:26 PM

I just got a new X33 and got it together and it idled for a minute then stopped and got harder and harder to start... so we were checking everything out and noticed chunks in the fuel filter... and it was foamy and strange looking... drained fuel and it was BLUE! went in yellow lol.. so we put some more fresh gas in and still would not start.. pulled carb and took it apart and the bowl was full of yellow slime crap.. was not fuel. looked water based like foamy piss or something... strange.

so now I'm waiting for a new fuel filter before I try starting it again..

does anyone know if they put something in the tanks for shipping or something that is supposed to mix with the gas for break in???

TurboT · 10-13-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit121

I just got a new X33 and got it together and it idled for a minute then stopped and got harder and harder to start... so we were checking everything out and noticed chunks in the fuel filter... and it was foamy and strange looking... drained fuel and it was BLUE! went in yellow lol.. so we put some more fresh gas in and still would not start.. pulled carb and took it apart and the bowl was full of yellow slime crap.. was not fuel. looked water based like foamy piss or something... strange.

so now I'm waiting for a new fuel filter before I try starting it again..

does anyone know if they put something in the tanks for shipping or something that is supposed to mix with the gas for break in???

While it doesn't happen all the time I think it's common to have some remnants of manufacturing in the tank. Sounds like that's what you're hitting here.

A good line and carb clean out is probably in order. Since you drained the tank hopefully you got all the crud out.

You're right on board with what you should be doing with new filter etc.

mizke · 10-13-2010, 06:37 AM

since the tank is empty, fill it with water and then drain it by having the water go through the petcock like it was fuel, and run a fuel line down to the ground..

it will completely flush the tank and petcock.. then get a can of brake or carb cleaner and clean the carb..

Rabbit121 · 10-13-2010, 07:36 AM

yeah, we cleaned the carb with break cleaner already. Do you guys know the factory settings for a PZ27? there is a screw in the front of the bowl pointing down which I think is for air/fuel mixure, I screwed that in all the way then backed off 2 full turns and did the same for the idle screw.

hopefully this will be sufficient to get it going but if somebody knows exactly where I should start that would be great...

BTW, Gio said they would send me a new carb and tank if I need. I'm going to see what happens when I get a new fuel filter here in a bit first.

TurboT · 10-13-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit121

yeah, we cleaned the carb with break cleaner already. Do you guys know the factory settings for a PZ27? there is a screw in the front of the bowl pointing down which I think is for air/fuel mixure, I screwed that in all the way then backed off 2 full turns and did the same for the idle screw.

That sounds right to me. I'd expect it should fire up for you with those settings.

Nice to hear Gio offered to look after you.

Keep us updated!

mizke · 10-13-2010, 02:55 PM

gio might send you a pz30 carb or maybe see if you could pay the difference in price between a mikuni pz30 carb and the stock carb..

and if you think about getting a free gas tank to either swap on now or just keep as a back up incase something happens.

waynev · 10-13-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mizke

gio might send you a pz30 carb or maybe see if you could pay the difference in price between a mikuni pz30 carb and the stock carb..

PZ30 on the 140cc might be a bit big.

Rabbit121 · 10-13-2010, 04:56 PM

Gio says the PZ30 won't work on the X33... only X31 and x35 and 200cc+ quads..?

waynev · 10-13-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit121

Gio says the PZ30 won't work on the X33... only X31 and x35 and 200cc+ quads..?

That makes sense, i have the PZ30 upgrade GIO carb on my 200cc beast and 250cc X31, i would think it wouldn't even bolt up to the intake manifold on your X33.

Not sure if you have done this yet, but i hope that you have changed out the crap shipping oil that comes in the engine and replace it with some good quality motorcycle oil, also make sure you oil the air filter with the proper oil made for pleated cotton filters like what comes on your bike, i use the K&N stuff, also if you haven't changed out the spark plug with a true NGK then i would also suggest that, i used a NGK CR7HSA in my 125cc dirt bike, should be the same plug for the 140cc, Canadian tire has these, CT part # 018-3670-6

Rabbit121 · 10-13-2010, 07:06 PM

yep, changed out the plugs first, the 140 had what looked to be a legit NGK C7HSA but I changed both bikes to CR7HSA anyway.. drained the few drops of shipping oil and used 10w40 wet cluth compatible atv oil in them.. I know the 140 called for 15w40se but I could not find it ANYWHERE.. and I read that the 10w40 in the 140cc should be ok in colder climates and it's pretty chillie here in NB right now so I should be ok.

haven't oiled the filter yet but it's not dusty right now anyway... I do have some K&N oil here somewhere though...

waynev · 10-13-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit121

yep, changed out the plugs first, the 140 had what looked to be a legit NGK C7HSA but I changed both bikes to CR7HSA anyway.. drained the few drops of shipping oil and used 10w40 wet cluth compatible atv oil in them.. I know the 140 called for 15w40se but I could not find it ANYWHERE.. and I read that the 10w40 in the 140cc should be ok in colder climates and it's pretty chillie here in NB right now so I should be ok.

haven't oiled the filter yet but it's not dusty right now anyway... I do have some K&N oil here somewhere though...

Sounds like your all set, i too have been using the 10w/40 oil, i use the Castrol motorcycle stuff in my 50cc, 110cc, 200cc atv's and my 250cc X31, no problems yet.

FastDoc · 10-14-2010, 12:45 AM

Seems to me Gio owes you a carb, although I doubt they could have known what the heck was in your tank.

mizke · 10-14-2010, 06:24 AM

didnt know the x33 was a smaller bike then the x31. my bad thought it was a 250cc...

Rabbit121 · 10-14-2010, 06:55 AM

yeah it's just a little fella... and they ARE sending me the carb, and a tank.. looks like they are shipping an X31 tank.. hmmm....

here's a pic.. I'm super impressed with the quality and feel of the bike.

FastDoc · 10-14-2010, 11:59 AM

Great looking machine.

Another A+ for Gio's service.

10-12-2010, 09:26 PM	#1
Rabbit121 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 41	New X33... Blue crap in tank and yellow crap in carb..lol I just got a new X33 and got it together and it idled for a minute then stopped and got harder and harder to start... so we were checking everything out and noticed chunks in the fuel filter... and it was foamy and strange looking... drained fuel and it was BLUE! went in yellow lol.. so we put some more fresh gas in and still would not start.. pulled carb and took it apart and the bowl was full of yellow slime crap.. was not fuel. looked water based like foamy piss or something... strange. so now I'm waiting for a new fuel filter before I try starting it again.. does anyone know if they put something in the tanks for shipping or something that is supposed to mix with the gas for break in???
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10-13-2010, 06:37 AM	#3
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	since the tank is empty, fill it with water and then drain it by having the water go through the petcock like it was fuel, and run a fuel line down to the ground.. it will completely flush the tank and petcock.. then get a can of brake or carb cleaner and clean the carb.. __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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10-13-2010, 02:55 PM	#6
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	gio might send you a pz30 carb or maybe see if you could pay the difference in price between a mikuni pz30 carb and the stock carb.. and if you think about getting a free gas tank to either swap on now or just keep as a back up incase something happens. __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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10-14-2010, 12:45 AM	#12
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Seems to me Gio owes you a carb, although I doubt they could have known what the heck was in your tank. __________________ Happy to serve.
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10-14-2010, 06:24 AM	#13
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	didnt know the x33 was a smaller bike then the x31. my bad thought it was a 250cc... __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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10-13-2010, 07:36 AM	#4
Rabbit121 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 41	yeah, we cleaned the carb with break cleaner already. Do you guys know the factory settings for a PZ27? there is a screw in the front of the bowl pointing down which I think is for air/fuel mixure, I screwed that in all the way then backed off 2 full turns and did the same for the idle screw. hopefully this will be sufficient to get it going but if somebody knows exactly where I should start that would be great... BTW, Gio said they would send me a new carb and tank if I need. I'm going to see what happens when I get a new fuel filter here in a bit first.
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10-13-2010, 04:56 PM	#8
Rabbit121 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 41	Gio says the PZ30 won't work on the X33... only X31 and x35 and 200cc+ quads..?
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10-13-2010, 07:06 PM	#10
Rabbit121 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 41	yep, changed out the plugs first, the 140 had what looked to be a legit NGK C7HSA but I changed both bikes to CR7HSA anyway.. drained the few drops of shipping oil and used 10w40 wet cluth compatible atv oil in them.. I know the 140 called for 15w40se but I could not find it ANYWHERE.. and I read that the 10w40 in the 140cc should be ok in colder climates and it's pretty chillie here in NB right now so I should be ok. haven't oiled the filter yet but it's not dusty right now anyway... I do have some K&N oil here somewhere though...
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10-14-2010, 06:55 AM	#14
Rabbit121 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 41	yeah it's just a little fella... and they ARE sending me the carb, and a tank.. looks like they are shipping an X31 tank.. hmmm.... here's a pic.. I'm super impressed with the quality and feel of the bike.
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10-14-2010, 11:59 AM	#15
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Great looking machine. Another A+ for Gio's service. __________________ Happy to serve.
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