Two-up on a Jialing 150 looking for Gonga Mountain-China I - Page 3

Jim · 01-11-2008, 01:53 AM

My Vulcan 800 I don't insure year round,but it would be around $1100 for a year. And I have a clean license and 25% discount.

SamM · 01-11-2008, 05:40 AM

Insurance- Basically, you are betting the Insurance Company that you are going to crash our car and they are betting that you won't!

Carl,
I am very interested in purchasing your DVD. I'll check the site and see what I need to do to order. What is the best way to pay for the DVD? PayPal? I'll be in China the last 2 weeks in August of this year. I'm hoping to learn a few things about the country during my visit and hopefully return someday to ride. Could you cross the country on your own bike or do they require you to buy a bike there? I'd love to do a RTW trip after I retire.

Thanks!

SamM

CrazyCarl · 01-11-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SamM

I am very interested in purchasing your DVD. I'll check the site and see what I need to do to order. What is the best way to pay for the DVD? PayPal?

No Paypal...just a normal credit card transaction. No need to login or anything. They usually ship in 24hrs.

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Originally Posted by SamM

I'll be in China the last 2 weeks in August of this year. I'm hoping to learn a few things about the country during my visit and hopefully return someday to ride. Could you cross the country on your own bike or do they require you to buy a bike there? I'd love to do a RTW trip after I retire.

It's basically impossible to get your own bike in without insanely restrictive and expensive escorts - or being part of an organized group...which is still probably escorted. It's cheaper and more fun to wing it a little and come here, buy your own and put it to the limits for a month or two. Guaranteed wild experience if you do it right and put in a little elbow grease.

You know which parts you'd like to ride?

CC

Jim · 01-11-2008, 08:21 PM

Sam, that's true, except that price was just the mandatory coverage for the bike to get it on the road, it still doesn't have collision or comprehensive coverage.

About buying Carl's dvd, it's pretty simple process, no paypal though like Carl said.

Carl, when you buy a bike in China, what do you need to get it legal for using on the road there?

CrazyCarl · 01-11-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

Sam, that's true, except that price was just the mandatory coverage for the bike to get it on the road, it still doesn't have collision or comprehensive coverage.

Dude, 1,100 sounds a little expensive. In the US we get a multiple bike discount. Any such programs there?

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Originally Posted by Jim

Carl, when you buy a bike in China, what do you need to get it legal for using on the road there?

If the bike is new, you need to pay tax (naturally), get the inspection, insurance, then finally the registration documents which come in a little blue folder. After that you can roll. The chances of doing this successfully depend on where you are but it is definitely possible. In general, everything you do here is a toss of the dice.

If you win, you get this shiny fiddle made of gold...but if you loose...

If the bike is used there's no need to do any of this. You just ride. The risk here is that the bike you buy may look good but is all fugged up internally. Oil never changed, rockers chewed up, all that. The cost should be at least half the cost of new and up-shot is repairs are cheap.

If you can go new that's great but definitely more complicated. If you don't mind running a second hand bike for a month or two then considering that option would be wise.

I really can't stress enough how uncertain the future is regarding being able to ride China. I hope it gets better, and most likely will, but you can't know anything for sure here. That said, the potential to have unbelievable riding experiences is extremely high.

CC

Jim · 01-12-2008, 11:00 AM

That's good to know, thanks Carl. About the multiple bike discount, haven't heard of anything like that in BC. We can get our optional coverage from a third party, the comprehensive and collision, but as I haven't had a license for 10 years (am not 26), I am automatically disqualified for that. Either way though, you have to get the basic insurance from our government owned insurance company.

CrazyCarl · 01-14-2008, 06:10 AM

Just heard from XF200 the insurance for Geico in West-by-God-Virginia is only 80USD a year for 200cc and under bikes. I'm sure it depends on your record too but that's a good start.

CC

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Originally Posted by Jim

That's good to know, thanks Carl. About the multiple bike discount, haven't heard of anything like that in BC. We can get our optional coverage from a third party, the comprehensive and collision, but as I haven't had a license for 10 years (am not 26), I am automatically disqualified for that. Either way though, you have to get the basic insurance from our government owned insurance company.

SamM · 01-14-2008, 10:47 AM

I also live in West Virginia. When I insured my QLink X-Ranger 200 back in August. I paid around $45 for full-coverage for the full year. After buying my new 2008 Kawasaki KLR650 in late December I cancelled the full coverage on the X-Ranger and liability insurance on my Yamaha TT-R250. The difference for the KLR was $25 until July 2008. My insurance company is Progressive. Couldn't be happier with them.

Admittedly, I am an old guy with no tickets or points on my license. Never had a major wreck or anything.

Thanks for the information Carl. As soon as I sell more KTM 950 parts I'll buy the DVD.

Jim · 01-17-2008, 11:09 PM

Hey Carl, got the dvd today, nice packaging, it looks great. The dvd itself is pretty cool, put together well, it got a little weird in Hodan(? I think that was the city), but I think that was intended. It was pretty cool, the bits of trivia about the various places we're cool, and the parts about 2005 too. Not to mention the scenery. Good work

Oh and I was also wondering what kind of bike Cannon Ball was (is)?

CrazyCarl · 01-22-2008, 04:00 AM

Jim,

Thanks for the comment. The part in Hotan was supposed to get a little trippy...the whole experience itself was a VERY trippy! As a first film, the idea was to work out some creative muscles.

Cannonball was a ZhongXin ZX150-5. Basically it's a Honda Nighthawk 250 with a 150 engine in it. She was very comfortable to ride and had a good cruising speed. Actually, she would have been better suited to the trip I took in 2006 but that's what learning is about. You can do wild things with just about any bike, The saving grace of these simple machines is exaclty their simplicity. Since the tolerances of manufacturing are pretty poor on the first place, they're surprisingly good at running in adverse conditions. The biggest problem was I was making Cannonball do things she was not designed to do, especially in the power/weight area.

Nobody's fault but mine.

CC

Jim · 01-22-2008, 07:38 PM

Yeah I figured that's why it was like that, from what you we're saying

Definitely got the point across

.... Hotan, I will have to remember that so I don't spell it wrong again.

Cannonball was a cool looking bike, thanks for the info.

01-11-2008, 01:53 AM	#31
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	My Vulcan 800 I don't insure year round,but it would be around $1100 for a year. And I have a clean license and 25% discount. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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01-11-2008, 05:40 AM	#32
SamM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,194	Insurance- Basically, you are betting the Insurance Company that you are going to crash our car and they are betting that you won't! Carl, I am very interested in purchasing your DVD. I'll check the site and see what I need to do to order. What is the best way to pay for the DVD? PayPal? I'll be in China the last 2 weeks in August of this year. I'm hoping to learn a few things about the country during my visit and hopefully return someday to ride. Could you cross the country on your own bike or do they require you to buy a bike there? I'd love to do a RTW trip after I retire. Thanks! SamM __________________ 2013 Jeep Wrangler Sahara MOAB 2005 BMW E53 X5 2011 Schutt Industries LTT-HC LQG trailer 2017 Coleman CT200U 1978 Yamaha SR500E 1979 Yamaha XS650 Special II
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01-11-2008, 08:21 PM	#34
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Sam, that's true, except that price was just the mandatory coverage for the bike to get it on the road, it still doesn't have collision or comprehensive coverage. About buying Carl's dvd, it's pretty simple process, no paypal though like Carl said. Carl, when you buy a bike in China, what do you need to get it legal for using on the road there? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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01-12-2008, 11:00 AM	#36
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	That's good to know, thanks Carl. About the multiple bike discount, haven't heard of anything like that in BC. We can get our optional coverage from a third party, the comprehensive and collision, but as I haven't had a license for 10 years (am not 26), I am automatically disqualified for that. Either way though, you have to get the basic insurance from our government owned insurance company. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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01-14-2008, 10:47 AM	#38
SamM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,194	I also live in West Virginia. When I insured my QLink X-Ranger 200 back in August. I paid around $45 for full-coverage for the full year. After buying my new 2008 Kawasaki KLR650 in late December I cancelled the full coverage on the X-Ranger and liability insurance on my Yamaha TT-R250. The difference for the KLR was $25 until July 2008. My insurance company is Progressive. Couldn't be happier with them. Admittedly, I am an old guy with no tickets or points on my license. Never had a major wreck or anything. Thanks for the information Carl. As soon as I sell more KTM 950 parts I'll buy the DVD. __________________ 2013 Jeep Wrangler Sahara MOAB 2005 BMW E53 X5 2011 Schutt Industries LTT-HC LQG trailer 2017 Coleman CT200U 1978 Yamaha SR500E 1979 Yamaha XS650 Special II
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01-17-2008, 11:09 PM	#39
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Hey Carl, got the dvd today, nice packaging, it looks great. The dvd itself is pretty cool, put together well, it got a little weird in Hodan(? I think that was the city), but I think that was intended. It was pretty cool, the bits of trivia about the various places we're cool, and the parts about 2005 too. Not to mention the scenery. Good work Oh and I was also wondering what kind of bike Cannon Ball was (is)? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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01-22-2008, 04:00 AM	#40
CrazyCarl Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chengdu, Sichuan, China Posts: 132	Jim, Thanks for the comment. The part in Hotan was supposed to get a little trippy...the whole experience itself was a VERY trippy! As a first film, the idea was to work out some creative muscles. Cannonball was a ZhongXin ZX150-5. Basically it's a Honda Nighthawk 250 with a 150 engine in it. She was very comfortable to ride and had a good cruising speed. Actually, she would have been better suited to the trip I took in 2006 but that's what learning is about. You can do wild things with just about any bike, The saving grace of these simple machines is exaclty their simplicity. Since the tolerances of manufacturing are pretty poor on the first place, they're surprisingly good at running in adverse conditions. The biggest problem was I was making Cannonball do things she was not designed to do, especially in the power/weight area. Nobody's fault but mine. CC __________________ Subscribe to the craziest Adventure Motorcycle Mag around... http://www.adventuremotorcycle.com/ "The Return - Riding Western China" movie site: http://www.motocyclops.com
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01-22-2008, 07:38 PM	#41
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Yeah I figured that's why it was like that, from what you we're saying Definitely got the point across .... Hotan, I will have to remember that so I don't spell it wrong again. Cannonball was a cool looking bike, thanks for the info. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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