Hawk break in

Rail32 · 03-02-2017, 07:43 PM

Wanna rejet carb ASAP. But know its senseless unless it's broke in. So I have 100 miles mostly 25 mph Max . So figuring 4-5 hours total. Maybe completely warmed up to operating temps ,,,12 times . I am thinking I am good to go . What do the rest of ya think ?
Maybe not senseless as much as a waste of time , after a bit more thought.

BlackBike · 03-02-2017, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rail32

Wanna rejet carb ASAP. But know its senseless unless it's broke in. So I have 100 miles mostly 25 mph Max . So figuring 4-5 hours total. Maybe completely warmed up to operating temps ,,,12 times . I am thinking I am good to go . What do the rest of ya think ?
Maybe not senseless as much as a waste of time , after a bit more thought.

If you are asking me how I broke in my counterbalanced Lifan engine, I would tell you that I put 500 miles on mine before I started pushing up the rpms . I'm a conservative kinda guy.

timcosby · 03-02-2017, 10:56 PM

they say its best to break one in with it jetted rich and the hawks come jetted extremely lean.

Rail32 · 03-03-2017, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by timcosby

they say its best to break one in with it jetted rich and the hawks come jetted extremely lean.

"They "

They always seem to get me into trouble , same as them .
Anyways here is what I know . Fuel is a detergent , cleaner , or simply will break down oil . So my thinking is rich fuel carb washes away oil easier from piston and cylinder . I have read this rich theroy many years ago when I was building engines when when I was a kid . Never really bought into it . I do agree to never wind out a new motor anything more than a brief moment . I also agree with never holding that one rpm steady ( aka cruising down a flat road for a long time) . I very well feel the carb Is super lean and it needs to be tuned ASAP. I have time off work today , I may just do it , and again if needed . Waiting for pipe anyways , but I can mod air intake prior anyways . It's a simple easy carb for removing and tuning . Thanks for all replies .
Rail ( not one of "them"

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**JerryHawk250** · 03-03-2017, 08:00 AM

I wouldn't hold back on re-jetting. Just take it easy for the 1st 500 miles. You can feel when these engine start to loosen up, smooth out and come to life.

Sport Rider · 03-03-2017, 08:15 AM

yeah, I jetted mine early on as well. it doesn't seem to have hurt it any. I also ran up the RPMs occasionally, but did not hold it for long. Generally, I didn't go over 40 for any long period of time.

wilserchinarider · 03-03-2017, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rail32

Wanna rejet carb ASAP. But know its senseless unless it's broke in. So I have 100 miles mostly 25 mph Max . So figuring 4-5 hours total. Maybe completely warmed up to operating temps ,,,12 times . I am thinking I am good to go . What do the rest of ya think ?
Maybe not senseless as much as a waste of time , after a bit more thought.

If you want to rejet, go ahead and rejet. I think this idea of waiting for the motor to break in was with regard to tuning. My hawk ran so crappy out of the box it really needed rejetting almost immediately.

It's a CG engine, don't overanalyze it, don't abuse it. I think your'e 25 mph max is overly friendly.

JMM · 03-03-2017, 12:01 PM

What's the stock size jet?

OUTERLIMITS · 03-03-2017, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by timcosby

they say its best to break one in with it jetted rich and the hawks come jetted extremely lean.

Agree, I can't think of a single benefit to running an engine lean, unless you are after fuel economy. Even then, at what price to the health of the engine?

Azhule · 03-03-2017, 01:14 PM

How's that saying go?

"Leaner is meaner"... (until you fry your engine)

Just to poke the bear :

Jake the Garden Snake does my kind of 'engine break in procedure'

timcosby · 03-03-2017, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

What's the stock size jet?

98 main jet

Rail32 · 03-03-2017, 04:35 PM

I went a bit crazy. Not only did I slap in a 115 jet right away and adjust air mix screw. I threw On a Uni filter , modded or gutted air box , whacked off spark arrestor, and now just waiting for pipe to get here . Wow did this all really wake up my little China girl . Oh installed NGK plug while I was at it . I am a bit too rich right now , but woth pipe it should be almost perfect . Besides test ride at 27 degrees and 3 " snow on ground made for a intersting ride . The snow was flying pretty good to see where I need a bit more protection around Uni filter . Will do that tomorrow . Now if only the pipe would get here

JMM · 03-04-2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rail32

I went a bit crazy. Not only did I slap in a 115 jet right away and adjust air mix screw. I threw On a Uni filter , modded or gutted air box , whacked off spark arrestor, and now just waiting for pipe to get here . Wow did this all really wake up my little China girl . Oh installed NGK plug while I was at it . I am a bit too rich right now , but woth pipe it should be almost perfect . Besides test ride at 27 degrees and 3 " snow on ground made for a intersting ride . The snow was flying pretty good to see where I need a bit more protection around Uni filter . Will do that tomorrow . Now if only the pipe would get here

Can you snap a pic of the air filter setup. Stock carb?

Rail32 · 03-04-2017, 05:32 PM

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Can you snap a pic of the air filter setup. Stock carb?

For some unknown reason I can only load one pix per post . Hope this helps . If you want more , pm me your email and I will give ya lots more . Maybe you can post them here for me than . Or anybody else also , it's cool .

JMM · 03-05-2017, 12:43 AM

The easiest way is to set up a "photobucket" account, which lets you kid pics up and hosts them for you. I have the app on my phone. Take a pic with my phone, open the app, add it to my Photobucket account, copy the image URL and just post it here. You. An put up as many as you want. And it saves the pics for you, so if you want, you can delete them off your phone to clear up space.

03-02-2017, 07:43 PM	#1
Rail32 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Marshfield , Wi Posts: 129	Hawk break in Wanna rejet carb ASAP. But know its senseless unless it's broke in. So I have 100 miles mostly 25 mph Max . So figuring 4-5 hours total. Maybe completely warmed up to operating temps ,,,12 times . I am thinking I am good to go . What do the rest of ya think ? Maybe not senseless as much as a waste of time , after a bit more thought. __________________ Living life to the fullest to avoid regrets later ,,,,or I am a complete loon ! Either way I am good
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03-02-2017, 10:56 PM	#3
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	they say its best to break one in with it jetted rich and the hawks come jetted extremely lean. __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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03-03-2017, 08:00 AM	#5
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,554	I wouldn't hold back on re-jetting. Just take it easy for the 1st 500 miles. You can feel when these engine start to loosen up, smooth out and come to life. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-03-2017, 01:14 PM	#10
Azhule Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CO Posts: 1,525	How's that saying go? "Leaner is meaner"... (until you fry your engine) Just to poke the bear : Jake the Garden Snake does my kind of 'engine break in procedure' __________________ "Think as you like... but this self proclaimed Professor is always right" - Buckshot "You never know what someone is hiding beneath their smile..." - NinjaTom - R.I.P.
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03-03-2017, 04:35 PM	#12
Rail32 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Marshfield , Wi Posts: 129	I went a bit crazy. Not only did I slap in a 115 jet right away and adjust air mix screw. I threw On a Uni filter , modded or gutted air box , whacked off spark arrestor, and now just waiting for pipe to get here . Wow did this all really wake up my little China girl . Oh installed NGK plug while I was at it . I am a bit too rich right now , but woth pipe it should be almost perfect . Besides test ride at 27 degrees and 3 " snow on ground made for a intersting ride . The snow was flying pretty good to see where I need a bit more protection around Uni filter . Will do that tomorrow . Now if only the pipe would get here __________________ Living life to the fullest to avoid regrets later ,,,,or I am a complete loon ! Either way I am good
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03-03-2017, 08:15 AM	#6
Sport Rider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 2,038	yeah, I jetted mine early on as well. it doesn't seem to have hurt it any. I also ran up the RPMs occasionally, but did not hold it for long. Generally, I didn't go over 40 for any long period of time.
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03-03-2017, 12:01 PM	#8
JMM Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 58	What's the stock size jet?
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03-05-2017, 12:43 AM	#15
JMM Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 58	The easiest way is to set up a "photobucket" account, which lets you kid pics up and hosts them for you. I have the app on my phone. Take a pic with my phone, open the app, add it to my Photobucket account, copy the image URL and just post it here. You. An put up as many as you want. And it saves the pics for you, so if you want, you can delete them off your phone to clear up space.
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