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Old 11-29-2015, 04:58 AM   #1
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oh ok, which seat is the short seat on the website?
As with the tall saddle, there are two versions of the narrow/short saddle.

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/product-p/csc-300s.htm

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/product-p/csc-200.htm
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Old 11-29-2015, 12:41 PM   #2
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pulled the trigger on the tall Seat Concepts seat this morning to take advantage of the 20% discount.
Crossing my fingers that it somehow gets to Ohio from CA before next weekend. Next Saturday is supposed to be 50 and sunny. Thinking about a late night Friday run to Southern Ohio after work, a motel and waking up Saturday already down in the good stuff and spending the day wandering home.
Problem with these short daylight days is that it takes half the daylight just to ride to the good stuff.


 
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Old 11-29-2015, 01:12 PM   #3
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I've put on some decent miles with the tale CSC. I find it quite a bit more comfortable then stock. For one I'm 6'1" so seat height is not an issue and slight decrease in knee bend from the tall saddle has kept my knees from banging the engine guards. I can ride a full day with out the need for a sheep skin like I had been using on the stock saddle.


 
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:07 PM   #4
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oh ok, which seat is the short seat on the website?
They call it the 'narrow' seat on the CSC site. I have the narrow carbon gripper saddle with red stitching.

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/SEATS-s/208.htm
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Old 11-29-2015, 04:56 AM   #5
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You are correct. I have rectified the error in my previous post.
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Old 11-29-2015, 04:12 PM   #6
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Addressing Inseam.

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Hey, I'm pretty much set on buying this bike and one of the biggest reasons is the seat height being so low with my short inseam of a whopping 28 inches! 31" is perfect for me and my girlfriend both.

My question though is if the seat is very comfortable at all? I've honestly had over 10 or 12 different bikes never felt a seat that was comfortable really except my 2007 V-Strom (stock by the way). Whats the general consensus? Is it a must replace like so many other bikes? No real great options? etc?

It's the only real concern I have. Thanks!
In addition to the Low/short seat, you might also consider having the 1" lowering link installed when you order. Depending on how much off-roading you are planning, ground clearance my or may not be important.

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Old 12-07-2015, 06:40 AM   #7
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I know for me the seat is better than my TW200, but even with the Airhawk DS pad during 220 miles my comfort level was not what I would have liked. I will be making some kind of change. I could definitely use some more height in seat to pegs. Another 1" to 1-1/2" would be nice.
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:47 AM   #8
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I know for me the seat is better than my TW200, but even with the Airhawk DS pad during 220 miles my comfort level was not what I would have liked. I will be making some kind of change. I could definitely use some more height in seat to pegs. Another 1" to 1-1/2" would be nice.
It sounds as if the CSC Tall Saddle should fit you well.

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/product-p/csc-300t.htm

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Old 12-07-2015, 07:22 AM   #9
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It sounds as if the CSC Tall Saddle should fit you well.

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/product-p/csc-300t.htm

Do you know what it adds in height Spud? I was thinking of that seat as well. I wonder if Seat Concepts will be providing the kits for our seats. Being frugal as I am the Seat Concepts kits are usually $159 - $169, so double that for the gripper seat is seams a little high. Although for ones comfort it is not. But with no guarantee well maybe I should have jumped on the 20% off deal.
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Old 12-07-2015, 09:02 AM   #10
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Do you know what it adds in height Spud? I was thinking of that seat as well. I wonder if Seat Concepts will be providing the kits for our seats. Being frugal as I am the Seat Concepts kits are usually $159 - $169, so double that for the gripper seat is seams a little high. Although for ones comfort it is not. But with no guarantee well maybe I should have jumped on the 20% off deal.
I think the tall seat adds about one inch of saddle height. Someone here owns the tall saddle, and I'm sure he will reply with the correct measurement.
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Old 12-07-2015, 11:40 AM   #11
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Not sure how, but tracking shows the lost package as being delivered today. Which means that it was sent but the scan was missed, making them assume it was lost.
Will mount tonight and take a few measurements. Straight edge with level bubble on three areas of seat. Front center and rear. Will do stock and the tall SC seat for comparison in real world


 
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Old 12-07-2015, 04:59 PM   #12
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Kinda wish I had thought to take advantage of the 20% off sale to get the narrow seat - I can't flat foot the bike as it is, so the tall seat was right out - but I have a feeling I'm going to be wanting the narrow seat once I start riding longer distances/times.

I look forward to your measurements on the tall seat tho Hope it's arrived safely!


 
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Old 12-07-2015, 09:07 PM   #13
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so here's my official unofficial in the dark below freezing observations and measurements:
Side shot stock seat. Bike is level. You can see the mark where the steel rule lay midway on the seat. This is where the measurement to ground was taken. Again, bike was level and rule that was measured from was level (using bubble level app)
Stock seat at that point measured 32-1/8"


Seat Concepts tall seat, measured same spot, 32-7/8"


The new seat, though overall not that much taller, is MUCH flatter and wider in the center-to-rear section, right where my fat ass resides. You can sit nearly all the way to the passenger seat on level surface.
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matching passenger (a very snug fit)


If you check out your stock seat, you will find a "tongue" of sorts in the front where the seat cover and padding extend out from the seat base upwards. This fills a niche in the rear of the tank perfectly.
The Seat Concepts builder added no such extra material or "tongue" on the front of the (obviously) stock seat base, so there is a gap between the Seat Concepts seat and the tank.
I kinda don't mind. I have my power cable for heated clothing coming out there inside a leather sleeve, and it fills the area fine. See here




Hope that helps some. It feels a LOT better on the short spin I took. The foam is firmer than stock as well, and the cover material is much nicer than the stock's condom-like feel.


 
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:41 PM   #14
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Kinda wish I had thought to take advantage of the 20% off sale to get the narrow seat - I can't flat foot the bike as it is, so the tall seat was right out - but I have a feeling I'm going to be wanting the narrow seat once I start riding longer distances/times.

I look forward to your measurements on the tall seat tho Hope it's arrived safely!
I was considering getting the shorter seat and Detours was kind enough to let me sit on his. It was slightly taller than the stock seat and still not what I considered skinny enough. I decided to not order the seat, but to try and modify the stock instead.

That evening, Rojo_Grande and I set out butchering the stock seat. We were able to shave some off the height, some off the sides, and adjusted the angles a little. I'll test drive that for a while - but agree with you...narrower would be more comfortable.
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Old 12-07-2015, 09:18 PM   #15
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I'm glad your saddle finally arrived, Dan. Thanks for braving the freezing weather to make the measurements, and take the photos.
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