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Old 05-03-2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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zongshen sierra 200 rear brakes

i was just wondering if any of you zong owners have changed their rear brakes yet. the reason i ask is i wondered if the kawasakl eliminator rear brake shoes worked on it. my rear brakes are popping on take off and occasionally at low speed. i figure i will b doing rear brakes soon.

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Old 05-03-2012, 01:06 PM   #2
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I believe it's the same hub as an Eliminator 125 so I bet the shoes would be the same too.

Spud of course will know for sure. :P
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:46 PM   #3
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If you find that to be true, please document the process. If it all works out, we can add it to the Zong sticky to help other Zong / Ranger owners.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:33 PM   #4
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good idea.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:49 AM   #5
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Re: zongshen sierra 200 rear brakes

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i was just wondering if any of you zong owners have changed their rear brakes yet. the reason i ask is i wondered if the kawasakl eliminator rear brake shoes worked on it. my rear brakes are popping on take off and occasionally at low speed. i figure i will b doing rear brakes soon.

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I did some research on this topic, but I can't remember my findings at this particular moment! :roll: I compared the measurements of my Zongshen brake shoes to the EBC database, and found a good match. I can't remember, but I don't think the brake shoes are the same as the Kawasaki BN125 Eliminator. I will search through my spare parts, and post the information as soon as I find the brake shoes I purchased. If you like, I will be glad to sell you these brake shoes, since I don't need them after my XT225 swingarm conversion.

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Old 05-04-2012, 05:29 AM   #6
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The brake shoes for the Zong's rear brake are 130mm in diameter, and 28mm wide. The EBC catalog lists a lot of brake shoes with these dimensions, including the brake shoes for the Kawasaki BN125 Eliminator. However, the holes which hold the springs for the brake shoes are in different locations, so I tried my best to match the distance between these holes.

I have a new, stock, rear brake assembly for the Zong, complete with brake shoes. I also purchased a pair of Vesrah VB-223 brake shoes, and fitted them to the Zongshen brake assembly. Although the Vesrah brake shoes are not identical, the fit appears to be good. The Zongshen springs also work well with the Vesrah VB-223 brake shoes. However, I have not tested these brake shoes on my Zong, since I performed an XT225 swingarm conversion on my bike.

Perhaps a number of different brake shoes will work with the stock, Zongshen rear wheel. Also, some brake shoes come complete with springs, which might eliminate the need to match the spring hole distance. However, the following brake shoes appear to fit the Zongshen rear wheel.

Vesrah VB-223
EBC 506
SBS 2034
Dunlop 9108

EDIT:
SOK 204 brake shoes, available for sale on eBay, should also fit the Zongshen, rear brake drum.


If someone experiments with another 130mm x 28mm brake shoe, and discovers it fits well in the Zongshen rear brake assembly, please let us know.

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Old 05-04-2012, 05:30 AM   #7
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For the purposes of future reference, I have added this thread to the Zong Sticky, located at the top of the Dual Sport Forum. This link is entitled "Zongshen 200GY-2 Rear Brake Shoes," and is located under the Parts subheading in the Zong Sticky. Thanks for asking the excellent question, David!

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Old 05-04-2012, 02:00 PM   #8
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im going to pull the wheel hopefully saturday afternoon to check them out. i will know if they need replacing for sure then thanks for all the great feedback.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:18 PM   #9
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I wouldn't be surprised if you broke a brake spring, David. I broke one of the springs holding the brake shoes on my Zong. Naturally, it adversely affects the operation of the brakes. I couldn't find a replacement brake spring at any of the local motorcycle dealers. :roll:

These brake springs are subjected to a lot of force, and can certainly fail. Each pair of brake shoes has a special spring associated with it; there is no standard spring size. :roll:

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Old 05-05-2012, 02:35 AM   #10
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davidsonsgccc, if you happen to find a broken spring, please measure the intact spring (and take a pic). I'll be happy to measure some old Honda stuff just to see if I can find a match.
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:36 AM   #11
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That's awfully nice of you, Weld!

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Old 05-05-2012, 03:12 AM   #12
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Happy to help. Sometimes we get lucky with stuff like this, and we need to be more diligent about putting such info in stickies. Much easier than the search function.
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:19 AM   #13
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I agree. I try very hard to keep the Zong Sticky up to date; I wish more people would refer to it. There's a lot of good information in the Zong Sticky that applies to all motorcycles, not just the Zongshen 200GY-2.

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Old 05-05-2012, 07:05 AM   #14
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The Vesrah VB223 brake shoes fit the front wheel for the 90-91, TW200 motorcycle. Therefore, the brake spring for the front wheel of that bike should also fit the Zongshen, rear brake shoes. This brake spring is Honda part #90506-17328-00, and is shown as part #13 in the following diagram.



http://www.cyclepartswarehouse.com/f...=1991&fveh=431

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Old 05-05-2012, 10:48 AM   #15
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I had the lining separate from a shoe on my virago. Lock the rear tire up making a left turn at busy intersection. 8O I had noticed some stickiness prior to that.
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