Lifan powered sears tractor. Sorta UTV like. - Page 2

Weldangrind · 11-30-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

That is a negative. It is a vertical engine. There is belt under the frame to the gearbox. The gearbox transfer the power 90 degrees and the chain drives the axle. I am going to fully enclose the chain for safety. The tires are all solid rubber.

The only parts I should need to get are the engine and pulley to fit the shaft. I have the belt, gear box, chain, etc.

Gotcha. The layout fooled me, but I see the recoil starter on top. Which transmission is it? I have an old Foote and matching rear axle at home, originally designed for a seven horse.

Have you ever used a push mower for this kind of application? They rely upon the blade for flywheel weight, so it pays to add mass to the pulley you plan to use. My plan was to weld a piece of plate to a steel pulley, but then I came upon another entire tractor with an 8hp engine and electric start. Way easier than pull starting.

If you just use a pulley with no added weight, it might rev up a little too quickly (although the governor will control max rpm) and it might stall easily.

SpudRider · 11-30-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

I like the little red "tractor" in the first picture, looks like it's doing some work.

Thanks for pointing that out, Jim.

At first glance, I missed the little worker driving that tractor!

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Originally Posted by katoranger

Jim, they hauled alot of leaves and some firewood with that tractor. Grandpa kept filling them up.

I bought it 2 years ago for them...

How long will that electric tractor run after a recharge, Allen?

Spud

Cal25 · 11-30-2010, 03:24 PM

A little bit of plywood and you could have a pretty spiffy little car.

katoranger · 11-30-2010, 04:46 PM

The red tractor will go about 2-3 hours of continuous use. 1-2 hours if being worked. I have two batteries so that we make sure to not run out of power.

Weld. I was aware of the flywheel deferences. Been looking at the power washer engines too. Not sure if it will really be a problem or not. The easy solution would be to swap flywheels.

FastDoc · 11-30-2010, 04:54 PM

That's awesome endurance on the batteries. Must be a lot of fun for the little ones. Have you had to fix it much?

I have 2 B&S lawnmower engines. One is not so good, I think it's siezed. It was in a powerwasher. The other was in a brand new mover. It hit a rock with the blade and bent the crank. I would guess they could be easily repaired if a guy was so inclined. I don't know if it would be worth it for shipping, but I'd give them to you for free. I think one's a 4HP the other is a 5HP.

katoranger · 11-30-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

That's awesome endurance on the batteries. Must be a lot of fun for the little ones. Have you had to fix it much?

I have 2 B&S lawnmower engines. One is not so good, I think it's siezed. It was in a powerwasher. The other was in a brand new mover. It hit a rock with the blade and bent the crank. I would guess they could be easily repaired if a guy was so inclined. I don't know if it would be worth it for shipping, but I'd give them to you for free. I think one's a 4HP the other is a 5HP.

I have not had to do anything to the little tractor. Just charge the batteries.

Doc, I think that the cost to ship them would be more than its worth. I have a couple donars here. I just need to swap some parts to build a good one.

Allen

FastDoc · 11-30-2010, 05:26 PM

OK. Just thought I'd offer. I'll put them in W&G's pile!

katoranger · 11-30-2010, 09:06 PM

He is going to need to rent a uhaul.

Weldangrind · 11-30-2010, 09:25 PM

Maybe I'll get a bike trailer like Barnone's.

That would be an awfully long ride home.

Push mowers are often nearly free on CL where I live. People move out of houses and into townhomes every month, and they practically give the mowers away.

I'd just make a heavy pulley and call it done. Try to static balance it the best you can. More flywheel weight will probably improve starting.

SpudRider · 12-01-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

He is going to need to rent a uhaul.

They might not let him back across the border! 8O

Spud

katoranger · 12-01-2010, 08:49 AM

I will have to research pulleys and see what I can find. I believe that when these mowers came from the factory that the blade was installed directly on the shaft and always spun.

katoranger · 12-03-2010, 11:04 AM

His some more pics.

High Speed Tuck

Weldangrind · 12-03-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

I will have to research pulleys and see what I can find. I believe that when these mowers came from the factory that the blade was installed directly on the shaft and always spun.

Really? No belt and pulley that acts like a clutch?

Awesome pics, BTW. You've got some good little helpers there.

katoranger · 12-03-2010, 11:16 AM

The mowett was intended to be used on small in town type lots and was essentially a push mower with a seat.

The lone foot pedal operated a idler pully on the belt from the engine to the gearbox. This made it stop and go. Blade always spun. Was not intended to be used for trailers or any other work. Cut grass only.

It has hard rubber tires. Not for use on hills. This is a product of the early sixties. Safety was not a concern yet. Simple machine. Low cost for a lazy homeowner who didn't want to push.

FastDoc · 12-03-2010, 11:41 AM

Amazing childhood memories being made there. Good for you all.

How big is that cat? 8O

Cooperative guy, he is. :P

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katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	The red tractor will go about 2-3 hours of continuous use. 1-2 hours if being worked. I have two batteries so that we make sure to not run out of power. Weld. I was aware of the flywheel deferences. Been looking at the power washer engines too. Not sure if it will really be a problem or not. The easy solution would be to swap flywheels. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-30-2010, 04:54 PM	#20
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	That's awesome endurance on the batteries. Must be a lot of fun for the little ones. Have you had to fix it much? I have 2 B&S lawnmower engines. One is not so good, I think it's siezed. It was in a powerwasher. The other was in a brand new mover. It hit a rock with the blade and bent the crank. I would guess they could be easily repaired if a guy was so inclined. I don't know if it would be worth it for shipping, but I'd give them to you for free. I think one's a 4HP the other is a 5HP. __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-30-2010, 05:26 PM	#22
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	OK. Just thought I'd offer. I'll put them in W&G's pile! __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-30-2010, 09:06 PM	#23
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	He is going to need to rent a uhaul. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-30-2010, 09:25 PM	#24
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Maybe I'll get a bike trailer like Barnone's. That would be an awfully long ride home. Push mowers are often nearly free on CL where I live. People move out of houses and into townhomes every month, and they practically give the mowers away. I'd just make a heavy pulley and call it done. Try to static balance it the best you can. More flywheel weight will probably improve starting. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-30-2010, 03:24 PM	#18
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	A little bit of plywood and you could have a pretty spiffy little car.
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12-01-2010, 08:49 AM	#26
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I will have to research pulleys and see what I can find. I believe that when these mowers came from the factory that the blade was installed directly on the shaft and always spun. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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12-03-2010, 11:04 AM	#27
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	His some more pics. High Speed Tuck __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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12-03-2010, 11:16 AM	#29
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	The mowett was intended to be used on small in town type lots and was essentially a push mower with a seat. The lone foot pedal operated a idler pully on the belt from the engine to the gearbox. This made it stop and go. Blade always spun. Was not intended to be used for trailers or any other work. Cut grass only. It has hard rubber tires. Not for use on hills. This is a product of the early sixties. Safety was not a concern yet. Simple machine. Low cost for a lazy homeowner who didn't want to push. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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12-03-2010, 11:41 AM	#30
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Amazing childhood memories being made there. Good for you all. How big is that cat? 8O Cooperative guy, he is. :P __________________ Happy to serve.
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