Gokart Buggy project.

katoranger · 11-18-2013, 08:25 PM

The girls and I are going to build a gokart for their 4-H project for next years fair.

I think we should try and build something similar to this. Will use some China power in the form of a Honda clone from Harbor freight.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181260370582...84.m1423.l2648

Grandpa has donated this rack made of 1" square tubing for the project. Rack comes with the trailer that will be following us home after Thanksgiving.

I wasn't originally planning on suspension, but thinking about it now.

SpudRider · 11-18-2013, 09:31 PM

I'm subscribed, Allen.

This looks like a very fun project!

Wild_Alaskan · 11-18-2013, 11:44 PM

You know you want suspension

Weldangrind · 11-19-2013, 12:49 AM

If you're using something like ATV rear tires, rear suspension won't be mandatory. You can create your own front spindle brackets (with a little caster angle) and some Chev valve springs for front suspension. Will it be used on a paved track or off road?

katoranger · 11-19-2013, 07:49 AM

Just in the yard. Mowed grass with small hills. I am going to use some lawn tractor tires since they are already here.

Need to keep the costs down too.

katoranger · 11-27-2013, 10:37 AM

I brought that trailer back to Kansas with me. Dry rotted tires made the 600 mile trip. Got that rack plus two metal workbenches and three metal shelves.

The rack is made of thinner wall 1 inch square tubing. Perfect for a frame.

Looking for some parts if anyone has anything out there.

Weldangrind · 11-27-2013, 10:40 AM

Tell us what you need.

Wild_Alaskan · 11-27-2013, 12:47 PM

this guy has some neat build videos to give you some more ideas if you haven't settled on a plan yet. he has several different buggys and i think he gives out the plans

http://www.youtube.com/user/Tmansgokarts

katoranger · 11-27-2013, 02:59 PM

WA I have seen his videos.

Weld. We will need a live axle, sprockets, bearings, and rear hubs. I think I will get a clone engine from harbor freight and a comet torque convertor belt drive.

Most of the other parts I have.

Really not sure if the suspension is needed. If we do go with suspension it won't have much travel. Will build the rear of the cart with a big swingarm and then simple a arms for the front.

Weldangrind · 11-27-2013, 11:43 PM

I have a differential rear axle with a sprocket from an old Cadet 75; would that help? I happen to have a well-worn trans for it as well, and it has reverse.

Wild_Alaskan · 11-27-2013, 11:51 PM

Ive got lots of bicycle stuff, bars, complete hydraulic break setups maybe even some rotors if you need any thing like that

katoranger · 11-28-2013, 09:06 AM

We will see what way this progresses. I have a peerless differential, but I think I am going to use a live axle.

I wonder if I can adapt a bicycle disc brake setup on it.

FastDoc · 11-28-2013, 01:58 PM

I don't have any parts to contribute but this is a worthy project. I'd be happy to kick in some $ for sundries in return for pics of your kids enjoying the finished product :-)

katoranger · 11-28-2013, 04:27 PM

Doc. Let me get our plan together. I have some stuff I plan to sell/trade for a new predator engine and a comet knockoff. That is $200 worth. The axle and bearings sprocket about another $100. I think I can find a used axle and hubs.

My total parts estimate of $400.

katoranger · 11-28-2013, 04:58 PM

There will be plenty of pictures. I think the axle and bearings will be needed first.

11-18-2013, 09:31 PM	#2
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I'm subscribed, Allen. This looks like a very fun project! __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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11-18-2013, 11:44 PM	#3
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	You know you want suspension __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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11-19-2013, 12:49 AM	#4
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	If you're using something like ATV rear tires, rear suspension won't be mandatory. You can create your own front spindle brackets (with a little caster angle) and some Chev valve springs for front suspension. Will it be used on a paved track or off road? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-19-2013, 07:49 AM	#5
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Just in the yard. Mowed grass with small hills. I am going to use some lawn tractor tires since they are already here. Need to keep the costs down too. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-27-2013, 10:37 AM	#6
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I brought that trailer back to Kansas with me. Dry rotted tires made the 600 mile trip. Got that rack plus two metal workbenches and three metal shelves. The rack is made of thinner wall 1 inch square tubing. Perfect for a frame. Looking for some parts if anyone has anything out there. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-27-2013, 10:40 AM	#7
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Tell us what you need. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-27-2013, 12:47 PM	#8
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	this guy has some neat build videos to give you some more ideas if you haven't settled on a plan yet. he has several different buggys and i think he gives out the plans http://www.youtube.com/user/Tmansgokarts __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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11-27-2013, 02:59 PM	#9
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	WA I have seen his videos. Weld. We will need a live axle, sprockets, bearings, and rear hubs. I think I will get a clone engine from harbor freight and a comet torque convertor belt drive. Most of the other parts I have. Really not sure if the suspension is needed. If we do go with suspension it won't have much travel. Will build the rear of the cart with a big swingarm and then simple a arms for the front. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-27-2013, 11:43 PM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I have a differential rear axle with a sprocket from an old Cadet 75; would that help? I happen to have a well-worn trans for it as well, and it has reverse. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-27-2013, 11:51 PM	#11
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	Ive got lots of bicycle stuff, bars, complete hydraulic break setups maybe even some rotors if you need any thing like that __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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11-28-2013, 09:06 AM	#12
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	We will see what way this progresses. I have a peerless differential, but I think I am going to use a live axle. I wonder if I can adapt a bicycle disc brake setup on it. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-28-2013, 01:58 PM	#13
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I don't have any parts to contribute but this is a worthy project. I'd be happy to kick in some $ for sundries in return for pics of your kids enjoying the finished product :-) __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-28-2013, 04:27 PM	#14
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Doc. Let me get our plan together. I have some stuff I plan to sell/trade for a new predator engine and a comet knockoff. That is $200 worth. The axle and bearings sprocket about another $100. I think I can find a used axle and hubs. My total parts estimate of $400. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-28-2013, 04:58 PM	#15
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	There will be plenty of pictures. I think the axle and bearings will be needed first. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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