No non-ethanol fuel in my area, options?

Jeshmont · 05-24-2021, 03:59 PM

Been doing some research on this as there are no areas around me that have non-ethanol I plan to use regular 87 as my Ghost is rated for it. I figured people on here probably know way more than I could search up.

It seems like a lot of people recommend Sta-bil 360 and Sta-bil Marine and I was told that something about using gas for boats? There are a lot of boats/marinas near me but I've never actually been to one so I imagine you can't just ride over and fuel up so what is the best option?

**JerryHawk250** · 05-24-2021, 04:43 PM

More than likely the marina will have ethanol free fuel.

RedCrowRides · 06-03-2021, 10:05 AM

You may , or may not be able to get access to the pumps at a marina on a motorcycle, so a fuel can will likely be required. As far as the ethanol goes, it wont actually hurt the engine but it will indeed rot the cheap not really rubber stock fuel lines and cause all kinds of trouble, i suggest switching the fuel lines to silicone based ones as soon as possible, whether you find ethanol free gas or not. You can find 3/16" see thru silicone fuel line in your choice of colors on Ebay for like $5 that will be enough to replace every gas line on the bike.

franque · 06-03-2021, 10:44 AM

Run regular fuel in it, and ride it regularly. I've never used non-ethanol fuel, and never had a problem, just don't let it sit for a month or two without running it.

**JerryHawk250** · 06-03-2021, 10:51 AM

If you live in a dry climate you will probably never have an issue with ethanol other than eating up rubber fuel lines and gaskets. If you live in a high humidity area like I do the ethanol will absorb the moisture out of the air and turns to gel in no time. That the main reason for not ethanol for boats. I've worked on too many boat motors and have seen what it can do. Use Sta-bil Marine, keep the tank full and drain if you know it will set up for a long period.

J4Fun · 06-03-2021, 12:08 PM

YES Jerry, so true and here in Cedar Key, FL the Echo pas power head proved that this past week.

TxTaoRider · 06-03-2021, 12:20 PM

My experience with ethanol is that time is the issue. On my bikes and quads, ethanol works fine so long as they dont sit for more than 6-8 weeks.

We have several places around in our smaller counties that I can get ethanol free gas. However, if you have any OHV parks around, some will carry ethanol free gas for off road use only. You might check that route.

Barnone · 06-03-2021, 03:27 PM

Get an ethanol tester like this one below and see if your gas has ethanol in it. Blenders don't like to use ethanol and avoid it if they can

https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratt...69370444&psc=1

However I have never had a problem with up to 10% ethanol gasoline.

bogieboy · 06-03-2021, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnone

Get an ethanol tester like this one below and see if your gas has ethanol in it. Blenders don't like to use ethanol and avoid it if they can

https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratt...69370444&psc=1

However I have never had a problem with up to 10% ethanol gasoline.

i have a few of the larger ones, and i find them easier to use than the tiny ones.... mine are like this (but stihl branded....employee discount where i work...LOL)

https://www.amazon.com/QuickSilver-E.../dp/B004QJQKTG

China Rider 27 · 06-04-2021, 06:04 PM

Here is a link for a non ethanol fuel locator nationwide.

https://www.pure-gas.org/extensions/...p?statecode=MD

Barnone · 06-06-2021, 10:58 PM

Some places may claim ethanol free gas but you had better test it.

Oldenslow · 06-07-2021, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barnone

Some places may claim ethanol free gas but you had better test it.

Now, that right there is an astute observation. Just because they SAY it's non-E doesn't mean it is, and our local sole source of non-E was just caught selling the regular ethanol-diluted stuff. But no worries -- newer bikes in particular are made to run on the weak stuff, and the problems it can cause generally won't occur so long as it doesn't sit in the tank for months. I keep fuel stabilizer in the gas during the winter months and add a dose occasionally during the heavy riding season and have no fuel problems with my three bikes. And don't forget, if you leave a bike sitting for months on end you'll have lousy gas in the tank even if it's non-E.

bogieboy · 06-07-2021, 08:50 AM

not that anyone really cares....LOL but i just got my bike out of storage (buried under my back deck covered with moss) and got it back on the road over the weekend, it had a gallon of 3 yr old non treated e10 87 octane (rm/2 method for those that care) still in the tank that i diluted down with 2 more gallons of 87 e10 and the bike started right up and ran like i had just parked it last night. a lot of people overthink the ethanol debate... over the weekend i have put 100 miles on the bike with no hiccups at all....

Edit: would like to add i ran the carb dry before storing it.

05-24-2021, 03:59 PM	#1
Jeshmont Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 75	No non-ethanol fuel in my area, options? Been doing some research on this as there are no areas around me that have non-ethanol I plan to use regular 87 as my Ghost is rated for it. I figured people on here probably know way more than I could search up. It seems like a lot of people recommend Sta-bil 360 and Sta-bil Marine and I was told that something about using gas for boats? There are a lot of boats/marinas near me but I've never actually been to one so I imagine you can't just ride over and fuel up so what is the best option?
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05-24-2021, 04:43 PM	#2
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06-03-2021, 10:05 AM	#3
RedCrowRides Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 759	You may , or may not be able to get access to the pumps at a marina on a motorcycle, so a fuel can will likely be required. As far as the ethanol goes, it wont actually hurt the engine but it will indeed rot the cheap not really rubber stock fuel lines and cause all kinds of trouble, i suggest switching the fuel lines to silicone based ones as soon as possible, whether you find ethanol free gas or not. You can find 3/16" see thru silicone fuel line in your choice of colors on Ebay for like $5 that will be enough to replace every gas line on the bike. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 2004 Sportster 2018 VADER 2020 Orion RXB250L
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06-03-2021, 10:51 AM	#5
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,554	If you live in a dry climate you will probably never have an issue with ethanol other than eating up rubber fuel lines and gaskets. If you live in a high humidity area like I do the ethanol will absorb the moisture out of the air and turns to gel in no time. That the main reason for not ethanol for boats. I've worked on too many boat motors and have seen what it can do. Use Sta-bil Marine, keep the tank full and drain if you know it will set up for a long period. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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06-03-2021, 12:20 PM	#7
TxTaoRider Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Flower Mound Texas Posts: 904	My experience with ethanol is that time is the issue. On my bikes and quads, ethanol works fine so long as they dont sit for more than 6-8 weeks. We have several places around in our smaller counties that I can get ethanol free gas. However, if you have any OHV parks around, some will carry ethanol free gas for off road use only. You might check that route. __________________ 2021 Tao Tbr7 - "Lucille" Mods so far- Brozz swingarm, 21" front rim (Bridgestone Tw302 rear/Dunlop D606 front tires), Digital gauge cluster, pz30b pumper carb, after market hand guards, aftermarket brake and clutch levers, round fold away mirrors, Fly handlebars shortened slightly, 13t front sprocket 2009 Q-link Legacy 250 1982 Suzuki GS1100ES - "Jolene"
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06-03-2021, 10:44 AM	#4
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	Run regular fuel in it, and ride it regularly. I've never used non-ethanol fuel, and never had a problem, just don't let it sit for a month or two without running it.
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06-03-2021, 12:08 PM	#6
J4Fun Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 277	YES Jerry, so true and here in Cedar Key, FL the Echo pas power head proved that this past week.
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06-03-2021, 03:27 PM	#8
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,348	Get an ethanol tester like this one below and see if your gas has ethanol in it. Blenders don't like to use ethanol and avoid it if they can https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratt...69370444&psc=1 However I have never had a problem with up to 10% ethanol gasoline.
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06-04-2021, 06:04 PM	#10
China Rider 27 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: PNW Posts: 982	Here is a link for a non ethanol fuel locator nationwide. https://www.pure-gas.org/extensions/...p?statecode=MD
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06-06-2021, 10:58 PM	#11
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,348	Some places may claim ethanol free gas but you had better test it.
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06-07-2021, 08:50 AM	#13
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,045	not that anyone really cares....LOL but i just got my bike out of storage (buried under my back deck covered with moss) and got it back on the road over the weekend, it had a gallon of 3 yr old non treated e10 87 octane (rm/2 method for those that care) still in the tank that i diluted down with 2 more gallons of 87 e10 and the bike started right up and ran like i had just parked it last night. a lot of people overthink the ethanol debate... over the weekend i have put 100 miles on the bike with no hiccups at all.... Edit: would like to add i ran the carb dry before storing it.
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