New 300cc "Hawks" just released for 2023 in mexico

[XLsior]

just ride the snot out of you're current bike and consider the nominal 300cc 'big bore' kit down the road.

If you're lugging weight around steep hills or doing slow technical riding then the extra torque will make a difference.

the downside is a possible hit to fuel mileage/range.

[Deckard_Cain]

Originally Posted by XLsior

just ride the snot out of you're current bike and consider the nominal 300cc 'big bore' kit down the road.

If you're lugging weight around steep hills or doing slow technical riding then the extra torque will make a difference.

the downside is a possible hit to fuel mileage/range.

With ported head, cam, roller followers, full exhaust, PE28 carb, and the cg300 jug, I get about 55-65mpg riding it like a sane, normal person.

I don't even recall what stock configuration got me...I know it was higher.

[alex_in_az]

Originally Posted by Deckard_Cain

With ported head, cam, roller followers, full exhaust, PE28 carb, and the cg300 jug, I get about 55-65mpg riding it like a sane, normal person.

I don't even recall what stock configuration got me...I know it was higher.

What gearing do you have? I self limit to 75mph due to the tires and front end shake that might be the front fender. I thought the cg300 jug was only 250cc

[XLsior]

yes the big bore is nominally stamped with 300cc...reality is it just makes it 250cc
the CG250 is actually a 230...

[Thumper]

FYI, the Templar 250 series have the ZS172 FMM 249cc OHC engines (-3A is the 5 speed, and -5 is the 6speed). Lifan KPX250 is another example. Same engine, a 249cc engine.

Over and over again, you see various manufacturers and retailers calling the ZS167 FMM (229cc engine) a 250! You have to look into the specs. Apparently, "300cc" motorcycles have the same issue!

The difference is about 5 horsepower (14hp versus 19hp), though minor mods can make these 15hp and 20hp engines.

The 229cc CG clones are great engines, and as long as you know what you are getting, it's OK. I own one in my Bashan Storm. It's counterbalanced, and runs GREAT!

[TominMO]

Originally Posted by McQueen216

Ok... So, here's the plan...
We all go to Mexico, and pick up bikes...
Then... we drive through the desert, cross, and pick up the trail in Yuma...

Slight refinement. In Mexico we pick up big Mexican hats and serapes. Ride across the desert into the US. Announce to the Border Patrol (in perfect English) that we are all Mexicans, and would you please transport us and our motorcycles to (name your town).

[Deckard_Cain]

Originally Posted by alex_in_az

What gearing do you have? I self limit to 75mph due to the tires and front end shake that might be the front fender. I thought the cg300 jug was only 250cc

16 front sprocket on a 40 rear.

The cg300 jug is indeed a 249.9cc. I have no reason to ever go freeway speeds on this bike myself. The fastest I ever need to cruise is 55-60mph. Two lane highways and rural roads. I mostly ride city and the aforementioned.

[tknj99]

Thats depressing for anyone buying one thinking its an upgrade power-wise to the current batch of 249.9cc bikes and then finding out otherwise

[McQueen216]

[QUOTE=TominMO;388002]…would you please transport us and our motorcycles to (name your town)…[/QUOTE]

But have you seen the BDR network? I mean, that’s part of the plan. Ya gotta get through those break-in miles somehow. Hop across the border, pick up one of the trails - CA, AZ, NM… - and take it north until you either get where you are going, or need to turn to (sigh) get onto pavement.

[Coloradogoose]

Originally Posted by tknj99

Wait.. where's the "Strongest" sticker?.. c'mon guys

The fork guards say "luxury" on them. Does that help?