? about tires

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by brianjmt

You sure on the wheel combo's? On Lifan website they have it at the 19/17 combo. But either way not sure i want to risk $$$ with this new efi. On top of that just 200(196) cc not big enough. Another genius idea from the good idea fairies. I wonder who actually makes these decisions the Chinese or some dump ass redneck American with no business experience.

You are correct on the 19/17 combo. I read the 21/18 combo off another online dealers website. I should of known the specs on some of these dealers sight are mostly incorrect. lol Don't be fooled by the 200cc engine. These engine perform as well as the 229cc engine and seen some that perform better. Ask Azule about his 80+mph 200cc.

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by brianjmt

I did get the tire stuff sorta today and in process of making out a post with all the tire brands/models in the sizes that will work on the 19/17 combo's. I used the xs650 and the cr125 motorcycles as both use the 1.85x19. I didnt get one hang up or snobby reply from any of the shops I called. Nothing but help, Amazing!

Good deal! It's a mind set that most people have that think it's all china junk.

[pete]

[brianjmt]

Thanks pete. I like fortnine been watching his videos for a yr or so. he does some great videos.

[brianjmt]

After doing research on the Brozz tire sizes 17/19 here is what I found. This is after researching this site, multi other forums, net, and talking with 3 major brand bike shops. Here is list of what tires are available for the china bikes with the:


OEM front rim size 1.85x19, tire size 90/90/19
OEM rear rim size 2.5x17, tire size 110/90/17


Replacement Tire size:
Front 100/90/19 will work on the 1.85 rim for the front.
Rear 120/90/17 will work on the rear 2.5 rim.

I did a search of tire manufacturer sites and here is the model of tires they make in these sizes. I did only matching pairs since I do not run mix match tires. SO if you do there are a few more options that you could mix and match.


I did find one perfect match for the OEM tire size. But couldnt fine any state side but they were listed on Michelin USA site so you may be able to order them.
Michelin Sirac 110/90/17 and 90/90/19


Second best match and china rider favorite is
Shinko 244 2.75x19 front and 4.6x17 rear

The follow are tire brands that make the 100/90/19 front and 120/90/17 Rear.


AVON - Trail Rider
Mitas- Terra force, E07, E08, MC-24, E09 (Terra Force is new and caught my attetntion I will be looking for a review on these)
Metezeler- Tourance
Dunlop- Trail Smart
Continental- Trail attack 3, Trail attack 2, TKC 70, TKC 80, Escape
Perelli- MT60
Kenda- K761, K760

Now money wise and performance wise Shinko 244 is Top dog, and under a $100 a set. The others will be much heavier especially the AVONS they are like lead. They will also set you back most likely over $200+ a set.
Hope, this helps those looking for replacement tires.



Also here are couple links I found worth a read.
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/d...-Tire-Info.pdf
https://dropbears.com/motorcycles/utilities/tyrerim.htm

[ChipToothy]

I went 100/100/19 and 120/100/17 on my Bashan. TKC 80’s are terrible, they skip around on the pave and cake over instantly in the mud. For dry pack dirt roads (not gravel) they do ok but will still like to wash out. They look cool though both stock tires together weigh less than 1 front TKC.

[MarkLowryIII]

Originally Posted by brianjmt

After doing research on the Brozz tire sizes 17/19 here is what I found. This is after researching this site, multi other forums, net, and talking with 3 major brand bike shops. Here is list of what tires are available for the china bikes with the:


OEM front rim size 1.85x19, tire size 90/90/19
OEM rear rim size 2.5x17, tire size 110/90/17


Replacement Tire size:
Front 100/90/19 will work on the 1.85 rim for the front.
Rear 120/90/17 will work on the rear 2.5 rim.

I did a search of tire manufacturer sites and here is the model of tires they make in these sizes. I did only matching pairs since I do not run mix match tires. SO if you do there are a few more options that you could mix and match.


I did find one perfect match for the OEM tire size. But couldnt fine any state side but they were listed on Michelin USA site so you may be able to order them.
Michelin Sirac 110/90/17 and 90/90/19


Second best match and china rider favorite is
Shinko 244 2.75x19 front and 4.6x17 rear

The follow are tire brands that make the 100/90/19 front and 120/90/17 Rear.


AVON - Trail Rider
Mitas- Terra force, E07, E08, MC-24, E09 (Terra Force is new and caught my attetntion I will be looking for a review on these)
Metezeler- Tourance
Dunlop- Trail Smart
Continental- Trail attack 3, Trail attack 2, TKC 70, TKC 80, Escape
Perelli- MT60
Kenda- K761, K760

Now money wise and performance wise Shinko 244 is Top dog, and under a $100 a set. The others will be much heavier especially the AVONS they are like lead. They will also set you back most likely over $200+ a set.
Hope, this helps those looking for replacement tires.



Also here are couple links I found worth a read.
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/d...-Tire-Info.pdf
https://dropbears.com/motorcycles/utilities/tyrerim.htm

After pulling my hair out trying to find exact replacements for the tires on my Brozz 250s (mine and my son's), I come across this breakdown. I've taken a screenshot of this post and I'll share it whenever/wherever it's needed!

[GlennR]

The Shinko 244 is a great tire for my dual sport needs. I push them hard through the twisties and they grip well. I wouldn't want a more street looking tire on my dual sport bikes.

Btw, somebody mentioned to beware of heavy tires. I couldn't agree more. Small engine bikes need the lightest tires you can find, because heavy tires really rob power. I found the Dennis Kirk lists the weights of each tire size of all the brands that they carry. It's very handy info when researching tires.

Dual sport tires have very soft sidewalls, so they are especially easy to change. Almost as easy as a bicycle tire.

[RevItUp]

Originally Posted by Megadan

Having had both on a Hawk, I would go for the 700 every time. The 705 is great on road, but the 700 is 90 percent as good on road, and much much better off road.

Where did you find the 700’s in a 19/17 combo? I can’t find them anywhere

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by RevItUp

Where did you find the 700’s in a 19/17 combo? I can’t find them anywhere

Nowhere. The context of that statement was made under the assumptions of this bike having a 21 and 18 inch wheel combo.

[herbie]

Originally Posted by roundhouse

I have about 1500 miles on shinkos 705s i am really impressed with their grip. They do pretty good on hard packed gravel but i would get maybe the 700 for looser stuff.

I have the shinko 705's in my watch list, I think this is what I am going with once my tires wear out. I have about 3000 miles on the stock tires and I think I can go about another 2000 or 3000 miles before a change out. I am glad to hear they grip well as I use my bike mainly for on road riding.

[Armycopter]

Peace Sports offers a knobby tire replacement for the Brozz 250. Has anyone tried it? I was thinking of giving it a go but probably not until next spring. I only have about a month left until I have to put the bike up for the winter. I definitely need some more aggressive tires though. The trails I ride have a fair bit of sand and mud and the stock Brozz tires can wash out pretty easily.

[everready]

Kenda Trakmasters 2, if they come in that size. They are awesome on just about everything. I run them on my DR441. The rear wears pretty fast on pavement though.

[OneLeggedRider]

Kenda Trakmasters rock! I put one on my front and bought 2 for my buddies. Even on pavement they offer higher stability than the stock Hawk knobby because they don't tend to follow grooves. And offroad they grip like no other. The downside is more road noise and vibration because the big knobs are so far apart.