New Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3) Dual Sport

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by Xtyling

I plan on keeping both side plastic side boxes. I will change the top box to the Givi Trekker 52L box (if compatible).

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I might be interested in pannier take-offs, in case someone out there chooses to upgrade to something else. I'll continue to use my JC Whitney trunk.

I'm also keeping my stock panniers, and installing a J.C. Whitney/Garage Pro trunk on the luggage rack. I think the stock panniers are great for short trips and running errands around town, especially when combined with a large travel trunk. One can remove the panniers and employ large soft luggage for longer trips, or add smaller soft luggage to supplement the stock panniers.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by NoVa Rider

...I should wait until I get my RX-3 and see how I use it before making a luggage purchase. Still, presuming I will stick with the stock hard luggage, I am surfing options for a duffle to strap on the seat, and use for light camping trips.

Right now the medium Nelson Rigg Survivor tail bag looks possible. About 40 liters, waterproof, about $60 with shipping, and its available in an orange color that might/might go with the RX-3 orange/yellow color option.

I agree with you on all points. It is always best to ride a bike for a while before you begin to modify/accessorize it. The Nelson Rigg Survivor bags seem like a very nice way to supplement the stock luggage at a reasonable price.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by katflap

perhaps this gives an idea of space . Size 9 (US) boot I can get the other one in upside down and shut the lid.

With the pannier next to the exhaust it might keep your fish & chips warm on the way home




Have been trying to get the torque settings together in one place but the different manuals quite often have different torques for the same thing.This is what I've got so far.

 ******************************************************************** RX3 INFO AND TORQUE SETTINGS 1a *************************************************************************
 ******************************************************************** NO GUARANTEE OF ACCURACY, USE AT OWN RISK !! *****************************************************
  
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                                                     Some sources stated different torque values so an alternative torque is given 
                                                  ------------------------------katflap--------------------------------------------------
  
 Headlight bulb       HS1 35/35w
  
 Tyres
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 Front                100/90-18    225 kpa   (32.6 psi)
 Rear                 130/90-15    250 kpa   (36.2 psi)
  
 Chain slack          10mm - 25mm    (alternative slack 15mm-25mm)
  
 Coolant level        The level of coolant is correct when it is at the bottom of the filler neck    (alternative, 5mm below the top)
  
  
 Engine               ZS177MM-P
  
 Idle                 1500 ± 100 RPM
  
 Valve clearance      INLET – 0,05mm / EXHAUST – 0,08mm         (alternative 0.04mm to 0.06mm inlet & exhaust)
  
 Engine oil           SJ 5W/40         (alternative 10w/40)
  
 Spark plug           CHAMPION RG6YC or NGK CR8E   0.6 - 0.7 mm   Torque 11Nm (8.1 ftlbs)
  
 
 
 
Engine oil drain plug (M14)              25Nm (18.4 ftlbs)     (alternative 15Nm , 11 ftlbs)
 Main oil filter cover bolts (M5)         8 Nm (5.9 ftlbs)      (alternative 10.8Nm  8 ftlbs / 12Nm , 8.8 ftlbs / 17.5Nm , 12.9 ftlbs)
 Oil strainer plug left crankcase (M20)   13.5Nm (10 lbsft)     (alternative 10nm , 7.3 ftlbs)
 Oil strainer plug right crankcase (M20)  13.5Nm (10 lbsft)     (alternative 10nm , 7.3 ftlbs)
  
 
sprocket cover bolts                     16.2Nm  (12 ftlbs)
 sprocket bolt                            48.6Nm  (36 ftlbs)     (alternative 55Nm , 40.5 ftlbs)
  
 Ignition (generator) cover bolt (M6)     10Nm    (7.4 ftlbs)
 clutch cover bolts (M6)                  10.8Nm  (8 ftlbs)
 water pump bolts                         9.4Nm   (7 ftlbs)
 Inlet duct (manifold) (M6)               10Nm    (7.4 ftlbs)
 Exhaust nut (m8)                         20.2Nm  (15 ftlbs)      (alternative 13Nm , 9.6 ftlbs)
 Crankcase bolt (M6)                      10Nm    (7.4 ftlbs)
 Gearshift pedal bolt (M6)                10Nm    (7.4 ftlbs)
  
 Cylinder head bolt                       38Nm    (28 ftlbs)
 Cylinder head bolt (M6)                  10Nm    (7.4 ftlbs)
 Cylinder bolt (M10)                      50nm    (36.9 ftlbs)
 Rotor nut (M14)                          80-90Nm (59-66.3 ftlbs)
 Primary nut (M18)                        110 Nm  (81 ftlbs)
 Clutch spring bolts (M5)                 8Nm     (5.9 ftlbs)
 Balance shaft nut (M16)                  80-90Nm (59-66.3 ftlbs)
 Crankshaft nut (M24)                     80-90Nm (59-66.3 ftlbs)
  
 Locknut of main pipe (M24)               25~35Nm (18.4-25.8 ftlbs)
 Fixed bolt of handlebar (M10)            50~60Nm (36.9-44.2 ftlbs)
 handle bar clamp bolts (hex head M8)     28~32Nm (20.6-23.6 ftlbs)
 Front axle nut (M14)                     70~80Nm (51.6-59.0 ftlbs)
 Front axle flange bolts (clamp) (M8)     18~25Nm (13.3-18.4 ftlbs)
 Rear axle nut (M14)                      70~80Nm (51.6-59.0 ftlbs)
 Engine suspension bolt (M10)             45~55Nm (33.2-40.5 ftlbs)
 Fixed nut of rear shock absorber (M10)   45~55Nm (33.2-40.5 ftlbs)
 Locknut of chain wheel (M8)              28~32Nm (20.6-23.6 ftlbs)
 Nut of rear rocker arm (M12)             50~60Nm (36.9-44.2 ftlbs)
 fork shaft nut (M12)                     55~65Nm (40.5-47.9 ftlbs)
 fork shaft nut (M10)                     45~55Nm (33.2-40.5 ftlbs)
  
 Engine mount (top)                       35Nm    (26 ftlbs)
 engine mount (middle)                    40.5Nm  (30 ftlbs)
 engine mount (low )                      40.5Nm  (30 ftlbs)
  
  
  
 Pannier & top box frame and pannier boxes
 M8×85
M8x80
M8x60
M8x40
M8x35
M8×20
 M6×35
M6×20
 
           18~25Nm  (13.3-18.4 ftlbs)
  
 Front protection bars
 
M8×50
M8×45
M8×16
 
          18~25Nm  (13.3-18.4 ftlbs)

As always, thanks for posting the superb photograph, Katflap. Also, thanks for sharing the torque information you have collected. I appreciate your excellent contributions to these forums.

Our CSC bikes will include an English translation of the official Chinglish service manual. CSC is finishing this 'translation' at this moment as we wait for the slow boat to arrive from China. Needless to say, we will be happy to share torque specifications with you as needed.

[SpudRider]

As of one hour ago, the Hanjin Germany had sailed approximately halfway up the Kuril Island chain from Hokkaido to the Kamchatka Peninsula. The Germany was sailing north at 13.5 knots along the Kurile Trench. The last recorded position of the vessel was:

LAT: 45° 46' N LONG: 154° 06' E

Here are some photographs from the islands which are currently off the port side of the ship, courtesy of Google Earth.

[thillskier]

How would this attach? Its for a sissy bar. Would it mount on the top box somehow?

Thanks! (this was from Bike Bandit site).


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[SpudRider]

Thillskier,

Check out the Nelson Rigg Survivor Dry Bags shown in post #2207 of this page. They are less expensive than the bags you mentioned. All of the Survivor series bags probably attach in the same manner, as shown in the video I posted.

[SpudRider]

You too can cross the Pacific Ocean as a passenger on a container ship.

http://www.yearofnoflying.com/2009/1...iner-ship.html

Check out the awesome slide show at the following link!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barnali...94244768/show/

If you aren't in a hurry, I'm sure the slow ocean voyage would be much more enjoyable than flying. The accommodations and food look pretty good also.

[thillskier]

And a bit pricey as well. For some reason the dry bags didn't list up on the site, but I didn't type dry and will this time. Again, Thx.

[Wolftrax]

Originally Posted by NoVa Rider

Now that I can see the inside of the right pannier, its less going to be much than the 18.5 liters I guesstimated based on Joe's exterior measurements. And I see why Joe did not attempt to figure the interior volume of the stock luggage: too many bends and indentations.

I should wait until I get my RX-3 and see how I use it before making a luggage purchase. Still, presuming I will stick with the stock hard luggage, I am surfing options for a duffle to strap on the seat, and use for light camping trips.

Right now the medium Nelson Rigg Survivor tail bag looks possible. About 40 liters, waterproof, about $60 with shipping, and its available in an orange color that might/might go with the RX-3 orange/yellow color option.

It s a very good price but my experience with this product is you get what you pay for. After a month in the Kalahari desert on a F650GS the bags base was completly roached. The conditions were pretty exteme, gravel,sand and corrugated roads so others experience with this bag may be different. I find that the cordura bags with waterproof liners are the most durable, if they rip you can sew them on the trail, even with a leaky outer bag the goodies say dry and dustproof in the inner bag. I really like the looks of this one, granted its a bit on the small size but I'm going to run 60L capacity soft panniers.

http://wolfmanluggage.com/products/enduro-dry-duffel

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by Wolftrax

It s a very good price but my experience with this product is you get what you pay for. After a month in the Kalahari desert on a F650GS the bags base was completly roached. The conditions were pretty exteme, gravel,sand and corrugated roads so others experience with this bag may be different. I find that the cordura bags with waterproof liners are the most durable, if they rip you can sew them on the trail, even with a leaky outer bag the goodies say dry and dustproof in the inner bag. I really like the looks of this one, granted its a bit on the small size but I'm going to run 60L capacity soft panniers.

http://wolfmanluggage.com/products/enduro-dry-duffel

Thanks for sharing the wealth of your experience.

[Wolftrax]

Shot of the NR Survivior tail bag on the C35 between Henties Bay and Uis, Namibia

[recracer]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/4126...5909147892609/ facebook RX3 owners

[katflap]

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

So, fish and chips in the right pannier, your favourite pint in the left pannier. Got it.

That's spooky , how did you know !

Originally Posted by SpudRider

As always, thanks for posting the superb photograph, Katflap. Also, thanks for sharing the torque information you have collected. I appreciate your excellent contributions to these forums.

Our CSC bikes will include an English translation of the official Chinglish service manual. CSC is finishing this 'translation' at this moment as we wait for the slow boat to arrive from China. Needless to say, we will be happy to share torque specifications with you as needed.

Always happy to provide a good "boot in a pannier photo"

I'm sure the CRC service manual will be good , thanks for the offer of sharing the odd specification when needed
As its been close to constantly raining here for the past week or more I can confirm that the panniers are water tight

[Wolftrax]

Well with 12" of snow on the ground I guess I'm getting a little bored. Until the RX3 was announced coming to the US I toyed with idea of heading to Mexico and buying a Yamaha XT250Z. I have a cousin who lives in Cabo, no problem register the bike in his name and ride it south. I also saw the RX3 on the radar but was convinced this is one bike that will never seen the shores of the good ole USA.
http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/10...uy-in-the-usa/
Now that I'll be a proud owner of one of the "you can't buy in the usa" bikes I thought it would be fun to see how it stacks up against the other bike I "could only buy in Mexico"
The highlighted cells show what I consider an advantage for overlanding south of the border, it's a subjective opinion.

[G19Tony]

Originally Posted by Wolftrax

It s a very good price but my experience with this product is you get what you pay for. After a month in the Kalahari desert on a F650GS the bags base was completly roached. The conditions were pretty exteme, gravel,sand and corrugated roads so others experience with this bag may be different. I find that the cordura bags with waterproof liners are the most durable, if they rip you can sew them on the trail, even with a leaky outer bag the goodies say dry and dustproof in the inner bag. I really like the looks of this one, granted its a bit on the small size but I'm going to run 60L capacity soft panniers.

http://wolfmanluggage.com/products/enduro-dry-duffel

I'm a big fan of Wolfman. I have almost everything they make. The mini beta will be going on the pillion seat of my RX3. I have a couple different models of saddlebags. I'll try them both out too.