Giov 110cc Mini Beast Back Axel Problems - Page 2

yozalo · 06-22-2009, 12:11 PM

Yes, the are not aligned at all. Weldandgrind I can not hammer it in place since there is a huge difference. I don't know how this happened during shipping but I will contact John for a replacement. The one he sent me was too big for it to fit in. I just took the bearing and the seal from the one he sent me in order to repair it. Ooooo, my god, now I have to do it all over again. Also how do you remove your bearing. I tried removing one last time but it was stuck. Looks like I will need to heat it up with something. Looks, like I will have to buy those mini butane burners which they sell on ebay.

yozalo · 06-22-2009, 12:12 PM

Also weldandgrind what would you suggest for the bushing on the 110cc.

Weldangrind · 06-22-2009, 03:21 PM

Yozalo, there are two things to note here:
1. It's not that bad. You can fix it.
2. It's the swingarm that's bent, not the axle.

Prop the quad up on a jackstand / block of wood / cinder block (whatever); support it under the fame, not the swingarm. Remove the disc brake caliper from the swingarm and carefully attach it to the upper frame area under the seat, using zip ties or a piece of wire.

Remove the rear axle. Once that's done, you'll see clearly how the right side chain adjuster must be put back into position, so that it looks like the left side. It looks as though the swingarm was hit by a forklift during loading (that happened to mine too).

Once you get the chain adjuster bent back into shape, mount the axle on the swingarm and tighten / loosen the chain adjusters until the two sprockets are in line. Nothing else matters at this time.

Once you have the sprockets in line, we'll worry about the next step.

yozalo · 06-22-2009, 04:23 PM

Ok, thanks. I will try that today or tomorrow.

TurboT · 06-22-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

yozalo and TurboT,

Is it me, or is the right chain adjuster bent on Yozalo's quad? Check out these photos:

That would certainly account for the difficulty in adjusting the chain. Yozalo, see if the right side chain adjuster can be bent (gently) back into place. Once that's done, you should be able to adjust the chain properly. It is most important to have the front and rear sprockets in line so that the chain will track smoothly. After that, we'll concentrate on proper chain tension.

Cheers!

I agree the chain adjustor is bent way in to far on the left. However it does look like Yozalo is missing something in between the sprocket and the swing arm. Spacer/bushing. Maybe it's the angle of the photos, but it does look like the sprocket needs to move over more.

Either way, the axel needs to come off to fix the bent chain adjustors, as well to put any missing piece in there.

yozalo · 06-22-2009, 07:31 PM

Yes, there is something missing. I will put the busing in which I forgot to put.

yozalo · 06-22-2009, 08:22 PM

Also did you change you brake fluuid as I just checked and it smells like fishing oil.

TurboT · 06-22-2009, 08:32 PM

No I left mine and my brake on the 110cc works like crap, I should look into it..

Want to get the carb sorted on the 50 then will look at other things..

yozalo · 06-22-2009, 10:10 PM

Don't waste your time trying to fix the 50cc carb. I changed 2 carbs already before I sold it. It would go by itself. Get a minkuni carb, it's worth the price.

TurboT · 06-23-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by yozalo

Don't waste your time trying to fix the 50cc carb. I changed 2 carbs already before I sold it. It would go by itself. Get a minkuni carb, it's worth the price.

I can't have it that way I have no way to govern the speed for my daughter with it the way it is. It is over fueling should be able to fiddle with it some to get it right.

Weldangrind · 06-23-2009, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboT

I agree the chain adjustor is bent way in to far on the left. However it does look like Yozalo is missing something in between the sprocket and the swing arm. Spacer/bushing. Maybe it's the angle of the photos, but it does look like the sprocket needs to move over more.

Either way, the axel needs to come off to fix the bent chain adjustors, as well to put any missing piece in there.

Good catch. The more I compare the photos, the more I agree that the space between the sprocket and the axle housing is tighter on Yozalo's than TurboT's.

yozalo · 06-23-2009, 11:35 AM

I bought a 9 pc mastercraft wrench set at canadian tire for $8. I will be fixing it today. Will report back.

katoranger · 06-23-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by yozalo

I bought a 9 pc mastercraft wrench set at canadian tire for $8. I will be fixing it today. Will report back.

I would like to make a suggestion on tools. It pays to by some decent ones like husky or craftsman. Don't need snap-on, but sometimes the inexpensive ones will do more damage than good.

Not that the $8 set won't get you by, but if you plan to USE them they may not last. Tip from someone who has destroyed alot of tools.

Allen

yozalo · 06-23-2009, 03:36 PM

I don't use tools often it's just for my Chinese atv and nothing else. If it ever were to break I can return it within 30 days. Also it comes with lifetime warranty.

katoranger · 06-23-2009, 06:33 PM

I use them all them time so I see them as an investment. They make me money. If they work for you that is good. If someone wants to be able to do their own work on a china ride having some good tools help.

Allen

06-22-2009, 03:21 PM	#18
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Yozalo, there are two things to note here: 1. It's not that bad. You can fix it. 2. It's the swingarm that's bent, not the axle. Prop the quad up on a jackstand / block of wood / cinder block (whatever); support it under the fame, not the swingarm. Remove the disc brake caliper from the swingarm and carefully attach it to the upper frame area under the seat, using zip ties or a piece of wire. Remove the rear axle. Once that's done, you'll see clearly how the right side chain adjuster must be put back into position, so that it looks like the left side. It looks as though the swingarm was hit by a forklift during loading (that happened to mine too). Once you get the chain adjuster bent back into shape, mount the axle on the swingarm and tighten / loosen the chain adjusters until the two sprockets are in line. Nothing else matters at this time. Once you have the sprockets in line, we'll worry about the next step. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-23-2009, 06:33 PM	#30
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I use them all them time so I see them as an investment. They make me money. If they work for you that is good. If someone wants to be able to do their own work on a china ride having some good tools help. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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06-22-2009, 12:11 PM	#16
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	Yes, the are not aligned at all. Weldandgrind I can not hammer it in place since there is a huge difference. I don't know how this happened during shipping but I will contact John for a replacement. The one he sent me was too big for it to fit in. I just took the bearing and the seal from the one he sent me in order to repair it. Ooooo, my god, now I have to do it all over again. Also how do you remove your bearing. I tried removing one last time but it was stuck. Looks like I will need to heat it up with something. Looks, like I will have to buy those mini butane burners which they sell on ebay.
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06-22-2009, 12:12 PM	#17
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	Also weldandgrind what would you suggest for the bushing on the 110cc.
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06-22-2009, 04:23 PM	#19
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	Ok, thanks. I will try that today or tomorrow.
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06-22-2009, 07:31 PM	#21
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	Yes, there is something missing. I will put the busing in which I forgot to put.
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06-22-2009, 08:22 PM	#22
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	Also did you change you brake fluuid as I just checked and it smells like fishing oil.
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06-22-2009, 08:32 PM	#23
TurboT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Posts: 2,185	No I left mine and my brake on the 110cc works like crap, I should look into it.. Want to get the carb sorted on the 50 then will look at other things..
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06-22-2009, 10:10 PM	#24
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	Don't waste your time trying to fix the 50cc carb. I changed 2 carbs already before I sold it. It would go by itself. Get a minkuni carb, it's worth the price.
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06-23-2009, 11:35 AM	#27
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	I bought a 9 pc mastercraft wrench set at canadian tire for $8. I will be fixing it today. Will report back.
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06-23-2009, 03:36 PM	#29
yozalo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 330	I don't use tools often it's just for my Chinese atv and nothing else. If it ever were to break I can return it within 30 days. Also it comes with lifetime warranty.
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