lost a spoke!

Zapkin · 10-11-2023, 01:58 PM

The other day..when on a crappy road I heard metal clinking sound. Took little notice because of the tools I have jingling around. This morning when I did my pre ride walk around I noticed something very disturbing.

Looks like that clinking was the spoke being ripped out of there. The tire is still holding air, but the rim liner is visible. Probably been this way at least 100 miles after today's ride.

This is probably why I should have made sure to check my spokes a long time ago and stay out of freakin woods. BUT. Can't I just glob some JB Weld over that hole and ride it?

**JerryHawk250** · 10-11-2023, 02:14 PM

Yeah, you have to stay on top of spoke maintenance. My Hawk is over 7 years old and never had a problem with any of the spokes. I've done a good bit of off road riding with it.

Zapkin · 10-11-2023, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Yeah, you have to stay on top of spoke maintenance. My Hawk is over 7 years old and never had a problem with any of the spokes. I've done a good bit of off road riding with it.

buuuuut cant i just dab some JB weld over it and procrastinate some more? at least until after Christmas?

**JerryHawk250** · 10-11-2023, 02:49 PM

You really should try to replace it. You will put stress on the rest of the spokes and possibly break more, before you know it you will be replacing the whole wheel.

Zapkin · 10-11-2023, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

You really should try to replace it. You will put stress on the rest of the spokes and possibly break more, before you know it you will be replacing the whole wheel.

are you sure it can be replaced? looks like it was ripped out. I want a new wheel anyway, look how dirty that one got already. hehe.

Megadan · 10-11-2023, 05:39 PM

yeah, that looks like a rim failure at the spoke hole. You could try and use some epoxy/jb weld to keep it in place, but I doubt it would hold for long.

Bill Hilly · 10-11-2023, 05:47 PM

You would probably have a flat, if the inside piece of the spoke was still in the rims, you most likely have had the whole thing pull through the rim. I don't know what they are called,but they make a washer that's kinda cone, or cupped shape maybe you could use one to fix your rim, or maybe weld, or have someone weld the hole shut , using pretty low temperature, and re-drilling the hole.

Tomshell · 10-11-2023, 10:14 PM

I would remove the wheel,tire,and strap. Replace the spoke, and use the inverted cone looking washer , and maybe use some jb weld as well. The washer should be a fairly large outside diameter. Re wrap the rim, mount the tube and tire and off ya go laddy.

Thumper · 10-12-2023, 05:35 AM

I am really surprised that the inner tube hasn't blown out that spoke hole. That could happen at any moment, especially if you add more air (pressure).

Did anyone "adjust" your spokes? That one may have been too tight!

I agree that it appears that this is a rim failure. It looks like the nipple was pulled right through the rim leaving an enlarged spoke hole! You really need a new rear wheel.

I doubt there is an off-the-shelf part (Nipple with wider base). Spokes are subject to pretty high tension and shock, and most people will just replace the rim. I've seen it done (washer) on bicycles. Maybe it will work out fine. But if not...

An assembled rear wheel ready for rim strip, tube and tire is ~160. Lots of them show up on ebay.

Zapkin · 10-12-2023, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

I am really surprised that the inner tube hasn't blown out that spoke hole. That could happen at any moment, especially if you add more air (pressure).

Did anyone "adjust" your spokes? That one may have been too tight!

I agree that it appears that this is a rim failure. It looks like the nipple was pulled right through the rim leaving an enlarged spoke hole! You really need a new rear wheel.

I doubt there is an off-the-shelf part (Nipple with wider base). Spokes are subject to pretty high tension and shock, and most people will just replace the rim. I've seen it done (washer) on bicycles. Maybe it will work out fine. But if not...

An assembled rear wheel ready for rim strip, tube and tire is ~160. Lots of them show up on ebay.

The tire has 35 psi at the moment. It's not bulging but I'm not a lucky person so

yeh, I think a rim, and better tube and tire as well, there goes 300.00!

Santa might love me.

severely · 10-12-2023, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zapkin

The tire has 35 psi at the moment. It's not bulging but I'm not a lucky person so

yeh, I think a rim, and better tube and tire as well, there goes 300.00!

Santa might love me.

How much is your health and safety worth?

**JerryHawk250** · 10-12-2023, 08:15 AM

I would look for a good aluminum aftermarket wheels like Tusk. The stock Hawk rims are thin and cheap.

Zapkin · 10-13-2023, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by severely

How much is your health and safety worth?

no more than anyone else on the planet, but I get what you are saying.

Zapkin · 10-13-2023, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

I would look for a good aluminum aftermarket wheels like Tusk. The stock Hawk rims are thin and cheap.

A rear rim from tt250 would work right?

Are they of much better quality?

Or should I just buy the bearing and stuff from CSC and install them in the hawk rim?

I want to keep it inexpensive but a worthy upgrade.

I packed that spoke hole with old fashioned Jb Weld. I don't things are going to pop out there anytime soon! The spokes all seem tight, but I don't know. The bike doesn't feel any different on the highway, but I am going to stick to small roads without potholes until I can fix her.

Zapkin · 10-13-2023, 01:14 PM

this will hold?

10-11-2023, 01:58 PM	#1
Zapkin Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Ohio Valley Posts: 686	lost a spoke! The other day..when on a crappy road I heard metal clinking sound. Took little notice because of the tools I have jingling around. This morning when I did my pre ride walk around I noticed something very disturbing. Looks like that clinking was the spoke being ripped out of there. The tire is still holding air, but the rim liner is visible. Probably been this way at least 100 miles after today's ride. This is probably why I should have made sure to check my spokes a long time ago and stay out of freakin woods. BUT. Can't I just glob some JB Weld over that hole and ride it? Attached Thumbnails __________________ 2022 Hawk 250
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10-11-2023, 02:14 PM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,554	Yeah, you have to stay on top of spoke maintenance. My Hawk is over 7 years old and never had a problem with any of the spokes. I've done a good bit of off road riding with it. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-11-2023, 02:49 PM	#4
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,554	You really should try to replace it. You will put stress on the rest of the spokes and possibly break more, before you know it you will be replacing the whole wheel. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-11-2023, 05:39 PM	#6
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,990	yeah, that looks like a rim failure at the spoke hole. You could try and use some epoxy/jb weld to keep it in place, but I doubt it would hold for long. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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10-11-2023, 10:14 PM	#8
Tomshell Join Date: Sep 2023 Posts: 28	Washer and JB Weld I would remove the wheel,tire,and strap. Replace the spoke, and use the inverted cone looking washer , and maybe use some jb weld as well. The washer should be a fairly large outside diameter. Re wrap the rim, mount the tube and tire and off ya go laddy.
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10-11-2023, 05:47 PM	#7
Bill Hilly Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 931	You would probably have a flat, if the inside piece of the spoke was still in the rims, you most likely have had the whole thing pull through the rim. I don't know what they are called,but they make a washer that's kinda cone, or cupped shape maybe you could use one to fix your rim, or maybe weld, or have someone weld the hole shut , using pretty low temperature, and re-drilling the hole.
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10-12-2023, 05:35 AM	#9
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,268	I am really surprised that the inner tube hasn't blown out that spoke hole. That could happen at any moment, especially if you add more air (pressure). Did anyone "adjust" your spokes? That one may have been too tight! I agree that it appears that this is a rim failure. It looks like the nipple was pulled right through the rim leaving an enlarged spoke hole! You really need a new rear wheel. I doubt there is an off-the-shelf part (Nipple with wider base). Spokes are subject to pretty high tension and shock, and most people will just replace the rim. I've seen it done (washer) on bicycles. Maybe it will work out fine. But if not... An assembled rear wheel ready for rim strip, tube and tire is ~160. Lots of them show up on ebay. __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it
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10-12-2023, 08:15 AM	#12
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,554	I would look for a good aluminum aftermarket wheels like Tusk. The stock Hawk rims are thin and cheap. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-13-2023, 01:14 PM	#15
Zapkin Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Ohio Valley Posts: 686	this will hold? Attached Thumbnails __________________ 2022 Hawk 250
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