Difference Between Apollo 250cc Dirt Bikes?

oouthere · 07-09-2018, 10:40 PM

Hi, having a hard time getting my head around these specifications. Is the Apollo DB-G011 different than the RX250 and DB36?

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/20549

It states this has adjustable quickly adjustable rear suspension and this seems to be what everyone has been asking for. It also looks to be 21lbs lighter and 2 more horsepower.

Here is what I'm comparing it to:

https://www.motomaxus.com/250cc-adult-dirt-bike-en.html

Just wondering if this is more people over stating something and looking for the biggest bang for the buck...

Thanks,

Rich

Its_not_a_honda · 07-09-2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oouthere

Hi, having a hard time getting my head around these specifications. Is the Apollo DB-G011 different than the RX250 and DB36?

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/20549

It states this has adjustable quickly adjustable rear suspension and this seems to be what everyone has been asking for. It also looks to be 21lbs lighter and 2 more horsepower.

Here is what I'm comparing it to:

https://www.motomaxus.com/250cc-adult-dirt-bike-en.html

Just wondering if this is more people over stating something and looking for the biggest bang for the buck...

Thanks,

Rich

Same bikes. The rear shock only has spring adjustment. It has an air valve at the top. I have let it all out and filled it up. No difference.
This is still a great bike. Change the carb and it is an awesome bike.

humanbeing · 07-10-2018, 03:52 AM

Different btw 2 model (at least in pic) OHC vs OHV

Megadan · 07-10-2018, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing

Different btw 2 model (at least in pic) OHC vs OHV

^That.

Bike in the first link has a CB250 - the OHC engine. Second bike has the CG250, the OHV motor found in many of the Enduros like the Hawk, Bashans, etc.

The OHC motor makes a little more hp. The OHV motor will have a bit more torque in the lower half of the revs.

Likely there is no differences beyond that. Just marketing people hyping up the bike to make you want to buy it.

I wouldn't even believe the weights they list. Most weights listed by these sellers tends to be optimistic (aka inaccurate).

oouthere · 07-10-2018, 08:31 AM

Thanks guys!!!

culcune · 07-10-2018, 09:03 AM

Apollo will slap in whatever engine a local importer desires, obviously after emissions certifications are completed. If these really do have different engines, it was probably more to do with what was available at the time, and the US importer fudged them through. Otherwise, it could just be the stock photos (a lot of online retailers do not take their own photos since they drop ship and don't physically carry many of the bikes on their site) from Apollo show both available air-cooled engines. I would venture to say the bike is the same, since as I mentioned, most retailers drop-ship.

culcune · 07-10-2018, 09:08 AM

I just noticed--Powersportsmax is not free shipping at their price, while motomaxus is free shipping. There IS a difference, lol

Megadan · 07-10-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

I just noticed--Powersportsmax is not free shipping at their price, while motomaxus is free shipping. There IS a difference, lol

The stated HP between the two is different as well, and in line with the two different engine types. The OHC equipped bike is rated at a bit over 17hp, which is typical of that engine, and the OHV equipped bike at 15.6hp, which seems to be the gold standard for EPA compliant non-balanced CG250's

oouthere · 07-10-2018, 01:43 PM

Well, went to order and apparently the tariffs are in place. There is an additional $150 fee...

Megadan · 07-10-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oouthere

Well, went to order and apparently the tariffs are in place. There is an additional $150 fee...

Probably a processing/paperwork fee of some kind. You wouldn't pay a Tariff as an aditional fee, the bike itself would just be more expensive.

oouthere · 07-10-2018, 02:30 PM

No, it said tarrif 301 fee...

I looked it up and it was imposed a few days ago on Chinese goods.

imapdog · 07-10-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by oouthere

No, it said tarrif 301 fee...

I looked it up and it was imposed a few days ago on Chinese goods.

i am interested as to how you saw a tariff fee?
not doubting you, i just want see facts

oouthere · 07-10-2018, 04:06 PM

Order one from the 2nd link of the OP, you don’t have to finish the transaction.

Got it wrong, it’s 15%...

Megadan · 07-10-2018, 04:09 PM

Sounds like shady business practices to me. A tariff on imported goods means that the importer pays a higher price, and then that just gets passed along to the consumer with a higher MSRP. Tacking an extra "fee" on to something that has already been imported and passed customs - meaning it has already been taxed - is a B.S. way to squeeze more money out of people.

imapdog · 07-10-2018, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oouthere

Order one from the 2nd link of the OP, you don’t have to finish the transaction.

here is a screen shot of the tariff in checkout process
https://imgur.com/a/DPO9KA5

damn, i wonder which seller is next or they just milking it.....
their supply should already be here before the "tariff" went into effect....

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oouthere Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wiggins, MS Posts: 44	Difference Between Apollo 250cc Dirt Bikes? Hi, having a hard time getting my head around these specifications. Is the Apollo DB-G011 different than the RX250 and DB36? http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/20549 It states this has adjustable quickly adjustable rear suspension and this seems to be what everyone has been asking for. It also looks to be 21lbs lighter and 2 more horsepower. Here is what I'm comparing it to: https://www.motomaxus.com/250cc-adult-dirt-bike-en.html Just wondering if this is more people over stating something and looking for the biggest bang for the buck... Thanks, Rich
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humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	Different btw 2 model (at least in pic) OHC vs OHV __________________
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07-10-2018, 09:03 AM	#6
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Apollo will slap in whatever engine a local importer desires, obviously after emissions certifications are completed. If these really do have different engines, it was probably more to do with what was available at the time, and the US importer fudged them through. Otherwise, it could just be the stock photos (a lot of online retailers do not take their own photos since they drop ship and don't physically carry many of the bikes on their site) from Apollo show both available air-cooled engines. I would venture to say the bike is the same, since as I mentioned, most retailers drop-ship. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	I just noticed--Powersportsmax is not free shipping at their price, while motomaxus is free shipping. There IS a difference, lol __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,976	Sounds like shady business practices to me. A tariff on imported goods means that the importer pays a higher price, and then that just gets passed along to the consumer with a higher MSRP. Tacking an extra "fee" on to something that has already been imported and passed customs - meaning it has already been taxed - is a B.S. way to squeeze more money out of people. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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oouthere Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wiggins, MS Posts: 44	Thanks guys!!!
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07-10-2018, 01:43 PM	#9
oouthere Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wiggins, MS Posts: 44	Well, went to order and apparently the tariffs are in place. There is an additional $150 fee...
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07-10-2018, 02:30 PM	#11
oouthere Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wiggins, MS Posts: 44	No, it said tarrif 301 fee... I looked it up and it was imposed a few days ago on Chinese goods.
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07-10-2018, 04:06 PM	#13
oouthere Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wiggins, MS Posts: 44	Order one from the 2nd link of the OP, you don’t have to finish the transaction. Got it wrong, it’s 15%...
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