New Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3) Dual Sport

[thillskier]

A Mod advised me to wait 24 hrs and hopefully it will come through. I will do that, and after another good conversation with Steve, today, believe so, but they will email me a copy I can confirm tomorrow. (Patti) Joe also PMed it was done..
I wish, I'd called (Steve) first..might have saved some B P spikes!

[detours]

Originally Posted by SpudRider

I just placed my fourth order at Taobao. I purchased some parts for both of my Zongshen bikes, including the new LED headlight for the RX3. If I don't like it, somebody else will probably want to buy it.

P.S. If you download and reduce the size of the gold RX3 photograph, or omit it altogether, your post will be much easier to read.

I had no idea the image I linked was so big All fixed now!

I'll be very interested to hear how the light output compares. If it's better, I'll probably get one too. I wonder if CSC could order parts like this or if we have to go through taobao.

Another part I'm interested in is the upgraded fork. Still haven't found it on taobao, but it's hard without a part number.

[CSCDude]

Originally Posted by detours

Another part I'm interested in is the upgraded fork. Still haven't found it on taobao, but it's hard without a part number.

We're checking with Zongshen on this now. We'll advise as soon as we have an answer.

[katflap]

Originally Posted by Veteran

Katflap; does the bike "feel" like you're sitting on it, or sitting in it? You know what I mean; some bikes "feel" like you're sitting atop them.

For me at 5ft 8 I would say it feels more like sitting in it .Hard to explain really , you can tuck right in and hug its orangey gorgeousness or take a more relaxed upright position without feeling exposed yet not tucked in.

Either way i don't feel cramped and the bike isn't top heavy and your not leaning forward supporting weight on your arms.

well I've made that as clear as mud

what can I say you've just got to try one !!

[Veteran]

Katflap,
Thanks mate. You actually made it quite clear and that's what i wanted to know. I appreciate it.

Cheers,
EC

[detours]

I was crunching some numbers to compare its power to weight ratio with other 250s, and it's really interesting. The RX3 is the heaviest bike in the chart, at 386 lb, which includes engine bars, skid plate, racks, panniers, trunk and 4 gallons of gas. But its power to weight ratio is still very competitive with the other 250s.

It ties with the Yamaha Vstar 250 and comes in only a hair below the Honda CBR250R and CB300F. True, the Ninja 300 beats it (with 50 more cc), but the RX3 still has almost the same torque ratio ... which is what you want in a touring/trail bike anyway.

Want to match the CB300F's power ratio or the Ninja 300's torque ratio? Just take off the engine bars, skid plate, racks, and panniers and replace the battery with a Shorai LFX to save 30 lbs.

And just for grins, I calculated the power to displacement (cc) ratio to get an idea of how efficient the Zong is ... and it beat everything but the Ninja 300. All that and it still gets 70 mpg. Not bad for a little thumper.


Chart sorted by power/weight, then by torque/weight. All curb weights include a full tank and stock equipment.

Models			Curb Wt	CC	MPG	HP	Torque Pwr/Wt	Tq/Wt	Pwr/cc	MSRP (US)

Kawasaki Ninja 300	384	296	70	34.8	17.5	0.09	0.05	0.12	$5,299.00
Honda CB300F		351	286	58	26.2	17.4	0.07	0.05	0.09	$3,999.00
Honda CBR250R		357	250	77	23.7	15.7	0.07	0.04	0.09	$4,199.00
Yamaha V-Star 250	326	249	78	21.0	15.0	0.06	0.05	0.08	$4,340.00
CSC Cyclone RX-3	386	250	70	24.8	16.6	0.06	0.04	0.10	$3,495.00
Honda Rebel		331	234	52	16.1	12.4	0.05	0.04	0.07	$4,190.00
Suzuki GW250		403	248	60	19.2	13.7	0.05	0.03	0.08	$3,999.00
Suzuki TU250X		326	249	67	14.8	11.5	0.05	0.04	0.06	$4,399.00

[CSCDude]

Originally Posted by detours

I was crunching some numbers to compare its power to weight ratio with other 250s, and it's really interesting. The RX3 is the heaviest bike in the chart, at 386 lb, which includes engine bars, skid plate, racks, panniers, trunk and 4 gallons of gas. But its power to weight ratio is still very competitive with the other 250s.

It ties with the Yamaha Vstar 250 and comes in only a hair below the Honda CBR250R and CB300F. True, the Ninja 300 beats it (with 50 more cc), but the RX3 still has almost the same torque ratio ... which is what you want in a touring/trail bike anyway.

Want to match the CB300F's power ratio or the Ninja 300's torque ratio? Just take off the engine bars, skid plate, racks, and panniers and replace the battery with a Shorai LFX to save 30 lbs.

And just for grins, I calculated the power to displacement (cc) ratio to get an idea of how efficient the Zong is ... and it beat everything but the Ninja 300. All that and it still gets 70 mpg. Not bad for a little thumper.


Chart sorted by power/weight, then by torque/weight. All curb weights include a full tank and stock equipment.

Models            Curb Wt    CC    MPG    HP    Torque Pwr/Wt    Tq/Wt    Pwr/cc    MSRP (US)

Kawasaki Ninja 300    384    296    70    34.8    17.5    0.09    0.05    0.12    $5,299.00
Honda CB300F        351    286    58    26.2    17.4    0.07    0.05    0.09    $3,999.00
Honda CBR250R        357    250    77    23.7    15.7    0.07    0.04    0.09    $4,199.00
Yamaha V-Star 250    326    249    78    21.0    15.0    0.06    0.05    0.08    $4,340.00
CSC Cyclone RX-3    386    250    70    24.8    16.6    0.06    0.04    0.10    $3,895.00
Honda Rebel        331    234    52    16.1    12.4    0.05    0.04    0.07    $4,190.00
Suzuki GW250        403    248    60    19.2    13.7    0.05    0.03    0.08    $3,999.00
Suzuki TU250X        326    249    67    14.8    11.5    0.05    0.04    0.06    $4,399.00

The RX3 is $3495 (not $3895). It's likely we will raise the price at some point in the not-too-distant future, but we're not there yet and the price is still $3495.

[Weldangrind]

Originally Posted by katflap

...you can tuck right in and hug its orangey gorgeousness

I laughed out loud at that one!

[Weldangrind]

Originally Posted by detours

I was crunching some numbers to compare its power to weight ratio with other 250s, and it's really interesting. The RX3 is the heaviest bike in the chart, at 386 lb, which includes engine bars, skid plate, racks, panniers, trunk and 4 gallons of gas. But its power to weight ratio is still very competitive with the other 250s.

It ties with the Yamaha Vstar 250 and comes in only a hair below the Honda CBR250R and CB300F. True, the Ninja 300 beats it (with 50 more cc), but the RX3 still has almost the same torque ratio ... which is what you want in a touring/trail bike anyway.

Want to match the CB300F's power ratio or the Ninja 300's torque ratio? Just take off the engine bars, skid plate, racks, and panniers and replace the battery with a Shorai LFX to save 30 lbs.

And just for grins, I calculated the power to displacement (cc) ratio to get an idea of how efficient the Zong is ... and it beat everything but the Ninja 300. All that and it still gets 70 mpg. Not bad for a little thumper.


Chart sorted by power/weight, then by torque/weight. All curb weights include a full tank and stock equipment.

Models            Curb Wt    CC    MPG    HP    Torque Pwr/Wt    Tq/Wt    Pwr/cc    MSRP (US)

Kawasaki Ninja 300    384    296    70    34.8    17.5    0.09    0.05    0.12    $5,299.00
Honda CB300F        351    286    58    26.2    17.4    0.07    0.05    0.09    $3,999.00
Honda CBR250R        357    250    77    23.7    15.7    0.07    0.04    0.09    $4,199.00
Yamaha V-Star 250    326    249    78    21.0    15.0    0.06    0.05    0.08    $4,340.00
CSC Cyclone RX-3    386    250    70    24.8    16.6    0.06    0.04    0.10    $3,895.00
Honda Rebel        331    234    52    16.1    12.4    0.05    0.04    0.07    $4,190.00
Suzuki GW250        403    248    60    19.2    13.7    0.05    0.03    0.08    $3,999.00
Suzuki TU250X        326    249    67    14.8    11.5    0.05    0.04    0.06    $4,399.00

Excellent info! Thanks for taking the time to chart it.

[detours]

Originally Posted by CSCDude

The RX3 is $3495 (not $3895). It's likely we will raise the price at some point in the not-too-distant future, but we're not there yet and the price is still $3495.

Oops ... not sure why I did that Original post corrected!

Edit: oh yeah, my early adopter pricing ($2895) threw me off. Sorry!

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by detours

I had no idea the image I linked was so big All fixed now!

I'll be very interested to hear how the light output compares. If it's better, I'll probably get one too. I wonder if CSC could order parts like this or if we have to go through taobao.

Another part I'm interested in is the upgraded fork. Still haven't found it on taobao, but it's hard without a part number.

The large image was not a big problem. Thanks for taking the time to fix the link.

The upgraded forks for the RX3 are a nice improvement. However, the forks for the Zongshen ZS150GY-10 motorcycle are probably better yet. I wonder if those forks would also fit the triple tree of the RX3.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I laughed out loud at that one!

X2.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by detours

...Want to match the CB300F's power ratio or the Ninja 300's torque ratio? Just take off the engine bars, skid plate, racks, and panniers and replace the battery with a Shorai LFX...

Thanks for taking the time to perform the calculations, and post the interesting information. Indeed, it wouldn't be difficult to remove the engine bars and luggage for everyday riding, and re-install them when heading out for a extended trip/adventure.

[SpudRider]

Having entered the North Pacific Ocean, the Hanjin Germany is figuratively 'pouring on the coals.' Fifteen minutes ago the vessel was reported at the following location, sailing east at 16.3 knots.

LAT: 49° 52' N LONG: 157° 09' W

The vessel is now farther south than the northern regions of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, and is rapidly approaching the 49th parallel, which is the latitude of the U.S./Canadian border.

The ETA in Long Beach has been moved forward to March 10, at 4:00 AM. Better yet, the berthing time has also been moved forward to March 14, at 5:00 AM. Apparently the longshoremen are clearing the backlog at the port of Long Beach.

[SpudRider]

The Hanjin Germany is now well out on the open seas of the North Pacific Ocean. Yesterday the vessel sailed south of Unimak Island before it distanced itself from the Aleutian Archipelago. Here are some photographs of Unimak Island.





























Make sure you are toting a big enough rifle if you decide to hunt bears on Unimak Island.