Hawk manual says 1.6 US QT motor oil. Too much?

pcspecialist · 07-28-2016, 01:06 AM

I hadn't read the manual when I filled it before, 1.25 quarts seems like the proper amount. Are we really supposed to put 1.6 quarts in it?

shanesnofear · 07-28-2016, 01:10 AM

I put one quart in mine and it seemed right ? now i question good thing i did not go riding yet lol

pcspecialist · 07-28-2016, 05:38 AM

I used only 1 quart for the first couple hundred miles, but, when I changed the oil, I did so after being told somewhere to use 1.25 quarts. Initially, I even though 1.25 was a tad too much, but, with the engine perfectly level, it appears to be the maximum amount.

I want to use as much as I possibly can, but, not so much that my crank is splashing in it. If 1.6 quarts isn't a misprint, that's what I will use.

motopat · 07-28-2016, 07:18 AM

I would trust the dip stick and the site glass. 1.3 qt is recommended for the TT250. I've only changed my oil once and with the bike standing up 1.3 qt is perfect in the glass. I'm sure 1.6 qt is too much, unless the counterbalanced TT engine takes less oil.

CSR_Sprocket · 07-28-2016, 10:49 PM

Page 29 of the online owners manual does state 1.6 quarts. My local car parts store only sells oil in liter bottles so that's my reference point. When I put 1.5 liters of oil in the crankcase the sight glass was completely covered and the oil registered about an inch too high on the dipstick. I used a catch pan and quick fingers to drain the excess. A glass pyrex measuring cup showed that there was about 500ml too much oil in the case. So with my Hawk one liter fills the crankcase 1/2 way up the sight glass and registers at the top of the crosshatch section on the dipstick. Which should be the right amount as far as I know.

Echoing motopat's above post, both the sight glass and dip stick shoukd give you the proper reading. I rest my kickstand on two pieces of 2x8 plus a 1x1 to get the bike to sit just left of level. I then tug the handlebar gently until I feel the balance point. That's when I check the oil level.

Add too much oil and it'll be blown out the crankcase vent tube and into the air filter box. The oil spray might saturate your air filter. The stock filter is designed to run dry. In another thread someone mentioned that a particular lawn mower air filter is an exact fit...

w0ss · 07-28-2016, 11:45 PM

I have used a quart the last two changes. That puts it right in the middle of the sight glass.

LunaTech · 07-29-2016, 02:20 PM

Here is a couple of responses I got on a different thread. FWIW I also use 1 quart and that seems to be right on the dip stick and window.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Rinkleff

Approximately a quart, more or less. There is a window gauge to see how much is in there, you should try to keep the level approximately halfway between the bottom and top of the gauge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartons8

According to the http://therps.net/ website, the specifications show 0.26 gallons of oil which is 1.04 quarts. Not sure why the manual says 1.60?

2LZ · 07-29-2016, 02:41 PM

I've always put a quart in the non-counterbalanced CG's. Brings it right up in the glass.

The counterbalanced version is supposed to take 1.3Q according to CSC's tutorial.

pcspecialist · 07-29-2016, 03:24 PM

The http://therps.net/ website doesn't specify [0.26] US or Imperial gallon, but, I think it is fairly safe to assume US. I think from now on I'll put in 1000 milliliters. If I were buying it in quart size containers, I'd just use the full container, but, I buy it by the gallon (Shell Rotella T 15W-40 for $13).

07-28-2016, 01:06 AM	#1
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	Hawk manual says 1.6 US QT motor oil. Too much? I hadn't read the manual when I filled it before, 1.25 quarts seems like the proper amount. Are we really supposed to put 1.6 quarts in it?
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07-28-2016, 10:49 PM	#5
CSR_Sprocket Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Post-industrial wastelands near Albany NY. Posts: 45	Page 29 of the online owners manual does state 1.6 quarts. My local car parts store only sells oil in liter bottles so that's my reference point. When I put 1.5 liters of oil in the crankcase the sight glass was completely covered and the oil registered about an inch too high on the dipstick. I used a catch pan and quick fingers to drain the excess. A glass pyrex measuring cup showed that there was about 500ml too much oil in the case. So with my Hawk one liter fills the crankcase 1/2 way up the sight glass and registers at the top of the crosshatch section on the dipstick. Which should be the right amount as far as I know. Echoing motopat's above post, both the sight glass and dip stick shoukd give you the proper reading. I rest my kickstand on two pieces of 2x8 plus a 1x1 to get the bike to sit just left of level. I then tug the handlebar gently until I feel the balance point. That's when I check the oil level. Add too much oil and it'll be blown out the crankcase vent tube and into the air filter box. The oil spray might saturate your air filter. The stock filter is designed to run dry. In another thread someone mentioned that a particular lawn mower air filter is an exact fit... __________________ The short list: 2011 Suzuki Boulevard C50T 2021 Chongqing Liyang Jiayu Hawk 250 DLX EFI 2017 TaoTao CY50-B scooter 79cc big bore kit - 45 MPH! (sold) 2015 Haosen Hawk (sold) 2002 Honda XR100R - project bike almost done. 2013 V-Strom 650 Adventure (sold )-: If I listed every bike that I've ever owned you'd either 1) Get bored 2) Be somewhat envious, or 3) Wonder: "What's wrong with that guy?"
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07-28-2016, 11:45 PM	#6
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	I have used a quart the last two changes. That puts it right in the middle of the sight glass. __________________ Hawk 250 with following performance mods: 17t, Mikuni with 110/25, Uni filter, Exhaust.
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07-29-2016, 02:41 PM	#8
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,078	I've always put a quart in the non-counterbalanced CG's. Brings it right up in the glass. The counterbalanced version is supposed to take 1.3Q according to CSC's tutorial. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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07-28-2016, 01:10 AM	#2
shanesnofear Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 32	I put one quart in mine and it seemed right ? now i question good thing i did not go riding yet lol
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07-28-2016, 05:38 AM	#3
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	I used only 1 quart for the first couple hundred miles, but, when I changed the oil, I did so after being told somewhere to use 1.25 quarts. Initially, I even though 1.25 was a tad too much, but, with the engine perfectly level, it appears to be the maximum amount. I want to use as much as I possibly can, but, not so much that my crank is splashing in it. If 1.6 quarts isn't a misprint, that's what I will use.
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07-28-2016, 07:18 AM	#4
motopat Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 24	I would trust the dip stick and the site glass. 1.3 qt is recommended for the TT250. I've only changed my oil once and with the bike standing up 1.3 qt is perfect in the glass. I'm sure 1.6 qt is too much, unless the counterbalanced TT engine takes less oil.
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07-29-2016, 03:24 PM	#9
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	The http://therps.net/ website doesn't specify [0.26] US or Imperial gallon, but, I think it is fairly safe to assume US. I think from now on I'll put in 1000 milliliters. If I were buying it in quart size containers, I'd just use the full container, but, I buy it by the gallon (Shell Rotella T 15W-40 for $13).
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