Hello From Tenessee - 2008 Wildfire 200cc

Gawngator · 12-31-2023, 01:16 PM

Thx for the add

Just bought a 2008 "Hondoid" WFG-200LDB "Street Legal" bike w title here in TN and finding that it's a challenge getting the right parts for it. Any advice is appreciated thx.

My bike was basically leftover stock from a dealer and never really ridden - had 3 miles on it and title had never been signed over from dealer so it is blank.

Mine needs new ignition and tank lid (keys lost) - found the ignition but the plastic tank is weird and does not have a typical screw cap.

Will try to post some parts questions in the appropriate forums.

Gawngator · 12-31-2023, 01:24 PM

I started a Google photo album of the parts "journey" in case it helps anyone else.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QPYQRqAupkxtBYa8

Thumper · 12-31-2023, 01:37 PM

Nice deal! And welcome to C-riders

This looks like a 163-FM style pushrod engine. It is a good dependable Honda CG clone. Cleveland Cycle werks used this and derivatives on their creations. Verify the model (behind the gearshift. Presumably the engine/stator are OK, but knowing the engine model would be good.

Ignition? You mean the keyed switch, right?

Does the CDI unit have a part number on it? It may have a DC or AC type CDI unit. AC units get no power when you turn on the key. DC units get 12V at the CDI when you turn on the key.

Interesting battery placement back there! Can you get the battery to hold enough charge to see if the CDI unit is getting power when you turn on the ignition?

If the battery can hold some charge, see which lead at the ignition switch is getting power when the battery is connected, then jump it to the lead that goes to the CDI unit if it does (DC type CDI).

Gawngator · 12-31-2023, 02:03 PM

@Thumper thx very much - I have the keyed switch off and a new one on but noticed the 4 pin replacement is also male so I am having to crimp on a new female connector and realign those pins. I am pretty slow at electrics so just takes me longer to figure out.

This has just been sitting in a barn for a lot of yrs so some of the plastics and rubber grommets are just breaking down now. Some of the wiring looks sketchy too.

I will look for some of those parts numbers next.

Also saw reference to these being same or similar to Kinroad XT200GY so if that is a hint on what to search for will add that to my sourcing notes.

Gawngator · 12-31-2023, 02:34 PM

Found it - 164-FML engine - I guess that is Lifan?

Also CDI Unit under seat is XianfengXF080813 - BY

Gawngator · 12-31-2023, 03:05 PM

The only other bike I have seen w that same rear battery box is the Kinroad XT200Gy

https://www.china-parts.co.uk/acatal..._Explorer.html (out of stock)

Problem is the battery I got is slightly too big, so I am thinking I may just fabricate something from metal that will be stronger and all metal

TommyD · 01-01-2024, 01:55 PM

I have 2007ish Loncin and Jialing dual sports. They look similar. The Jialings gas tank looks just like yours. The Jialing also has a battery box where yours is located.

Were there 2 letters before the 164 FML? Also, both of my bikes have a tag on the swing arms stating their brand etc.

Gawngator · 01-01-2024, 08:58 PM

Thx TommyD - No, nothing before the 164FML
Underneath it is the unique Serial number though

Gawngator · 01-01-2024, 09:03 PM

From my other thread it is starting to sound like there were a handful of maker names putting this same/similar bike out and so far I see the Kinroad XT200GY looks exactly like it, and sounds like maybe your Loncin and Jialing models might also be a hit.

jsumd · 02-28-2024, 06:05 PM

That's a good find! I bought one last summer and gave it to my cousin as a birthday gift. I had def been ridden alot and needed some work.

12-31-2023, 01:16 PM	#1
Gawngator Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 13	Hello From Tenessee - 2008 Wildfire 200cc Thx for the add Just bought a 2008 "Hondoid" WFG-200LDB "Street Legal" bike w title here in TN and finding that it's a challenge getting the right parts for it. Any advice is appreciated thx. My bike was basically leftover stock from a dealer and never really ridden - had 3 miles on it and title had never been signed over from dealer so it is blank. Mine needs new ignition and tank lid (keys lost) - found the ignition but the plastic tank is weird and does not have a typical screw cap. Will try to post some parts questions in the appropriate forums. Attached Thumbnails
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12-31-2023, 01:37 PM	#3
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,196	Nice deal! And welcome to C-riders This looks like a 163-FM style pushrod engine. It is a good dependable Honda CG clone. Cleveland Cycle werks used this and derivatives on their creations. Verify the model (behind the gearshift. Presumably the engine/stator are OK, but knowing the engine model would be good. Ignition? You mean the keyed switch, right? Does the CDI unit have a part number on it? It may have a DC or AC type CDI unit. AC units get no power when you turn on the key. DC units get 12V at the CDI when you turn on the key. Interesting battery placement back there! Can you get the battery to hold enough charge to see if the CDI unit is getting power when you turn on the ignition? If the battery can hold some charge, see which lead at the ignition switch is getting power when the battery is connected, then jump it to the lead that goes to the CDI unit if it does (DC type CDI). __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it
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01-01-2024, 01:55 PM	#7
TommyD Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Arizona Posts: 89	I have 2007ish Loncin and Jialing dual sports. They look similar. The Jialings gas tank looks just like yours. The Jialing also has a battery box where yours is located. Were there 2 letters before the 164 FML? Also, both of my bikes have a tag on the swing arms stating their brand etc. __________________ 2022 Royal Enfield Classic 350 1993 Honda Nighthawk 250 2006 Jialing 200cc Dual Sport
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02-28-2024, 06:05 PM	#10
jsumd Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 386	That's a good find! I bought one last summer and gave it to my cousin as a birthday gift. I had def been ridden alot and needed some work. __________________ 2002 Harley Davidson XL883R Honda xl175 2002 Yamaha R6 2022 Hawk 250 Vader 125cc sold after owning for many years 1966 Benelli Fireball 1997 Jeep Wrangler sold due to frame rot
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12-31-2023, 01:24 PM	#2
Gawngator Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 13	I started a Google photo album of the parts "journey" in case it helps anyone else. https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QPYQRqAupkxtBYa8
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12-31-2023, 02:03 PM	#4
Gawngator Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 13	@Thumper thx very much - I have the keyed switch off and a new one on but noticed the 4 pin replacement is also male so I am having to crimp on a new female connector and realign those pins. I am pretty slow at electrics so just takes me longer to figure out. This has just been sitting in a barn for a lot of yrs so some of the plastics and rubber grommets are just breaking down now. Some of the wiring looks sketchy too. I will look for some of those parts numbers next. Also saw reference to these being same or similar to Kinroad XT200GY so if that is a hint on what to search for will add that to my sourcing notes.
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12-31-2023, 02:34 PM	#5
Gawngator Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 13	Found it - 164-FML engine - I guess that is Lifan? Also CDI Unit under seat is XianfengXF080813 - BY
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12-31-2023, 03:05 PM	#6
Gawngator Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 13	The only other bike I have seen w that same rear battery box is the Kinroad XT200Gy https://www.china-parts.co.uk/acatal..._Explorer.html (out of stock) Problem is the battery I got is slightly too big, so I am thinking I may just fabricate something from metal that will be stronger and all metal
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01-01-2024, 08:58 PM	#8
Gawngator Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 13	Thx TommyD - No, nothing before the 164FML Underneath it is the unique Serial number though
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01-01-2024, 09:03 PM	#9
Gawngator Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 13	From my other thread it is starting to sound like there were a handful of maker names putting this same/similar bike out and so far I see the Kinroad XT200GY looks exactly like it, and sounds like maybe your Loncin and Jialing models might also be a hit.
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