Moab in October?

rbrADV · 08-29-2016, 01:38 PM

I will be 4-wheeling in Moab on October 17, 18, and 19.
Anyone want to do some dual-sport riding around Moab on October 20, 21, 22?
I have previously ridden many of the roads and trails around Moab. This year I want to ride the White Rim Trail on one of the days.

The unpaved back roads are constantly rough. There are long stretches of exposed rock.
I have a 2016 RX3 with the 19-inch front wheel - but a stock 18-inch would be fine IF you also have knobbies and a skid plate. There are enough sandy stretches that I would NOT recommend the stock "dual -sport tires". (As you can see from the picture above, if it rains all bets are off!)
I am open to trail suggestions. Who is interested?

rbrADV · 08-29-2016, 01:42 PM

I should have mentioned - obviously - any TT250 riders would be right at home on any of these trails.
In either case, you should be prepared for a long day of riding and also be equipped to handle minor repairs including flat tires.
This is NOT a guided or supported ride.
Everyone would be responsible for their own meals and lodging.

SeerAtlas · 08-29-2016, 04:01 PM

back in 89 my dodge 4x4 cummins was built by Chrysler specifically for me to take to Moab to show Ford and Chevy "HOW IT WAS DONE"

When the magazine guys saw it, they christened it "DODGEZILLA" . There's a picture on the cover of one of the off roading mags of her with me standing on the hood on the top of the imperial dunes surrounded by a gaggle of paddlewheeled, fuel injected and blower ladened jeeps taken a few months later

No one could remember anyone EVER getting a truck up there -"Too BIG, too damned heavy for the sand" In fact, she may have been the first.

Hell of a trip to moab that year tho, there used to be a rock slab trail there up a thing called 'Lionsback' which is what it looked like. dangerous as hell climbing that fin if you didn't know your stuff. The year before, I was two cars behind a cj5 crawling up that thing like at train of catepillars. the cj driver missed an indentation and the jeep reared up like a wild mustang coming right over on its back sliding back down the rock face.. There was NO place on that rock to hide, cliffs on either side, 80 maybe a hundred ft on one side, little less than that on the other, most of it less than two early (cj5's and cj3's) jeeps wide.
Pucker factor was EXTREME!!! fellow started sliding towards the edge,then a Miracle, one bar of his roll cage caught on a small rock bump, spun him around and he started sliding towards the other side. Bout six passenger guys jumped out of their jeeps, ran up and grabbed the slowly moving cj and started throwing winch cables/tow straps whatever they had handy to get the guy stopped. Driver was frozen white hanging upside down in his four point harness with the injected motor still turning, gas everywhere. Battery cables were cut, fellow dragged to safety, and the cj secured. Then we got the hell off the rock, was gas Everywhere which made the 'slickrock' REALLY FRIGGin SLICK!!
That night, we all sat around discussing how much would've been bet that the guy would've bought it and figguring out how the hell to get that cj down off of there. A few drinks and a lot of jawboning, and it was finally decided.
The next morning a crew of us went up to get it. Snaked a few jeeps up the hill behind it, (no small feat itself), stablized it with a few below and then we rolled it over with winches, and dead sticked it back down the fin. Been a while but I *think* the cj owner had the cojones to deadstick his own vehicle back down while tethered to a bunch of inline strapped/winched together jeeps. Took most of the day.
Sometime later the park service closed Lionsback to vehicles of any kind.
Gotta tell you, i was the second vehicle below that guy (and on the really narrow part of the fin) when the cj reared up and over. All I could visualize was him plowing in to the guy in front of me and all three of us going over the cliff. NOT a good picture.
Even had a few nightmares bout that for some months later. God only knows how the driver felt :(
Moab is a beautiful place, but it can be seriously unforgiving. I quit going when the idiot drunks started spring breaking the Easter Safari. Killed some people, got others hurt, incredible vehicle carnage. Oh and yeah, about that MUD!

rbrADV · 09-11-2016, 07:54 PM

I am planning to stay at 3 Step Hideaway near LaSal.

After 4-wheeling a few days, I am going to 3 Step on Wednesday night, October 19th. I have a cot in one of teepees reserved.
If you haven't heard of 3 Step, it is a dual-sport bikers resort! Close to Moab and other great riding near Monticello, UT. They have cabins and teepees, and also accommodate campers.
They serve fantastic breakfast and supper, plus have cold beer on hand after the ride. Hot showers, too!
Check out the website!

GSC · 09-15-2016, 11:45 AM

anybody staying in Moab? I like the Super 8 next to Denneys on the northside. my Debra heard about it and may be tagging along?

RedHawk47 · 09-18-2016, 12:27 AM

I'm planning a trip to the SW about that time. I'll be pulling my trailer with a bike in the back of the truck; probably the TT250, maybe the RX3.
I'm thinking of meeting you at 3 Step on the 19th and staying there the 20th also. Where are you planning to ride?

rbrADV · 09-21-2016, 11:23 AM

Hi Dan,
I am staying in Moab during the week earlier. On Wednesday I am going down to 3 Step (where I will be leaving my bike.)
There are lots f options for riding around Moab. The LaSal loop is great, especially through Onion Creek. The ride out to Chicken Corners is pretty cool along the Colorado River.Weather permitting, I would like to do the White Rim Trail either Thursday or Friday, this is about 150 miles total, with about 90 dirt roads.
I will ride Saturday morning and then head back hoe to Arizona for 2.5 days of riding.

rbrADV · 09-21-2016, 11:27 AM

I will probably stay at the Super 8 earlier in the week while I am 4-wheeling.
I am going to drop my trailer and RX3 at 3 step on my way through ad go back there on Wednesday night. They are great folks and live for dual sport riding! There are cabins but I am staying in a Teepee. They provide breakfast, shower, towels, etc. Supper is optional. Just need to provide a sleeping bag for the cot.
PS. It is no problem staying in Moab since I have to come through town to start the trails.

detours · 08-29-2016, 05:44 PM

This is more than a little tempting. I love Moab but haven't been in quite a while ... and never on a motorcycle. I'll have to check with the family tho.

FastDoc · 08-29-2016, 07:12 PM

I'd love to go but no time on my end.

Ive been there on a mountain bike (bucket list thing to go back), including I believe on the very trail pictured.

Highly recommended.

I've not done it on the Suzuki DRZ but would love to someday.

BTW that snot-mud looks terrible. Glad you made it through.

FastDoc · 08-29-2016, 07:23 PM

Funny I just noticed the Artic Circle sign in your Avatar.

Is that on the Dalton north of Fairbanks?

If so I have a picture of myself (and Jimmy) at that same sign!

RedHawk47 · 08-30-2016, 02:01 PM

I'm planning a "time-out" trip to the Moab area about that time. I may be interested in joining up for some excursions.
Permits are needed to White Rim Trail these days - too popular.
Onion Creek is a nice ride. Also Hurrah Pass and beyond. Basic dirt skills are enough for both of those.

GSC · 08-30-2016, 04:07 PM

Never done that before, sounds like a good trip. Count me in if you would.
gary

DanKearney · 08-31-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GSC

Never done that before, sounds like a good trip. Count me in if you would.
gary

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Originally Posted by 3banger

I might be in, pretty much right in my back yard and I haven't done on a moto yet. MTB it a few years ago.

Good to see you Gary and Dave.

Gary, I can't make Sipapu this year. My wife is returning from China the day before I'd have to leave. I didn't think it would be a good idea to take off immediately upon her return.

Hopefully I'll see you guys in Moab.

Cheers,

Dan K.

Mudflap · 08-31-2016, 10:19 AM

I've done the White Rim Trail twice, once each direction, with my daughter on our Chinese bikes. Great scenery and not a difficult ride except for deep sand on the west side. It was hot, nearly 100 degrees and there isn't much shade.

Don't forget to stop at Mussleman Arch for a pic.

A ride up to the top of the LaSalle Mtns is a good way to escape the heat and the aspens are real nice in the fall. This was at the end of September.

08-29-2016, 01:38 PM	#1
rbrADV Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cornville, AZ Posts: 26	Moab in October? I will be 4-wheeling in Moab on October 17, 18, and 19. Anyone want to do some dual-sport riding around Moab on October 20, 21, 22? I have previously ridden many of the roads and trails around Moab. This year I want to ride the White Rim Trail on one of the days. The unpaved back roads are constantly rough. There are long stretches of exposed rock. I have a 2016 RX3 with the 19-inch front wheel - but a stock 18-inch would be fine IF you also have knobbies and a skid plate. There are enough sandy stretches that I would NOT recommend the stock "dual -sport tires". (As you can see from the picture above, if it rains all bets are off!) I am open to trail suggestions. Who is interested? __________________ Arizona ADV Rider. TAT, COBDR, AZBDR, UTBDR, and Alaska! 2016 RX3, 19-inch front wheel, knobbies, skid plate, LED headlight, 2015 handlebars with hand guards, and ready for real ADV riding! 2015 Honda NC700XD
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08-29-2016, 01:42 PM	#2
rbrADV Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cornville, AZ Posts: 26	Moab I should have mentioned - obviously - any TT250 riders would be right at home on any of these trails. In either case, you should be prepared for a long day of riding and also be equipped to handle minor repairs including flat tires. This is NOT a guided or supported ride. Everyone would be responsible for their own meals and lodging. __________________ Arizona ADV Rider. TAT, COBDR, AZBDR, UTBDR, and Alaska! 2016 RX3, 19-inch front wheel, knobbies, skid plate, LED headlight, 2015 handlebars with hand guards, and ready for real ADV riding! 2015 Honda NC700XD
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08-29-2016, 04:01 PM	#3
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	ahhh, moab:) back in 89 my dodge 4x4 cummins was built by Chrysler specifically for me to take to Moab to show Ford and Chevy "HOW IT WAS DONE" When the magazine guys saw it, they christened it "DODGEZILLA" . There's a picture on the cover of one of the off roading mags of her with me standing on the hood on the top of the imperial dunes surrounded by a gaggle of paddlewheeled, fuel injected and blower ladened jeeps taken a few months later No one could remember anyone EVER getting a truck up there -"Too BIG, too damned heavy for the sand" In fact, she may have been the first. Hell of a trip to moab that year tho, there used to be a rock slab trail there up a thing called 'Lionsback' which is what it looked like. dangerous as hell climbing that fin if you didn't know your stuff. The year before, I was two cars behind a cj5 crawling up that thing like at train of catepillars. the cj driver missed an indentation and the jeep reared up like a wild mustang coming right over on its back sliding back down the rock face.. There was NO place on that rock to hide, cliffs on either side, 80 maybe a hundred ft on one side, little less than that on the other, most of it less than two early (cj5's and cj3's) jeeps wide. Pucker factor was EXTREME!!! fellow started sliding towards the edge,then a Miracle, one bar of his roll cage caught on a small rock bump, spun him around and he started sliding towards the other side. Bout six passenger guys jumped out of their jeeps, ran up and grabbed the slowly moving cj and started throwing winch cables/tow straps whatever they had handy to get the guy stopped. Driver was frozen white hanging upside down in his four point harness with the injected motor still turning, gas everywhere. Battery cables were cut, fellow dragged to safety, and the cj secured. Then we got the hell off the rock, was gas Everywhere which made the 'slickrock' REALLY FRIGGin SLICK!! That night, we all sat around discussing how much would've been bet that the guy would've bought it and figguring out how the hell to get that cj down off of there. A few drinks and a lot of jawboning, and it was finally decided. The next morning a crew of us went up to get it. Snaked a few jeeps up the hill behind it, (no small feat itself), stablized it with a few below and then we rolled it over with winches, and dead sticked it back down the fin. Been a while but I think the cj owner had the cojones to deadstick his own vehicle back down while tethered to a bunch of inline strapped/winched together jeeps. Took most of the day. Sometime later the park service closed Lionsback to vehicles of any kind. Gotta tell you, i was the second vehicle below that guy (and on the really narrow part of the fin) when the cj reared up and over. All I could visualize was him plowing in to the guy in front of me and all three of us going over the cliff. NOT a good picture. Even had a few nightmares bout that for some months later. God only knows how the driver felt :( Moab is a beautiful place, but it can be seriously unforgiving. I quit going when the idiot drunks started spring breaking the Easter Safari. Killed some people, got others hurt, incredible vehicle carnage. Oh and yeah, about that MUD! __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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09-11-2016, 07:54 PM	#4
rbrADV Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cornville, AZ Posts: 26	3 Step Hideaway on October 19th I am planning to stay at 3 Step Hideaway near LaSal. After 4-wheeling a few days, I am going to 3 Step on Wednesday night, October 19th. I have a cot in one of teepees reserved. If you haven't heard of 3 Step, it is a dual-sport bikers resort! Close to Moab and other great riding near Monticello, UT. They have cabins and teepees, and also accommodate campers. They serve fantastic breakfast and supper, plus have cold beer on hand after the ride. Hot showers, too! Check out the website! __________________ Arizona ADV Rider. TAT, COBDR, AZBDR, UTBDR, and Alaska! 2016 RX3, 19-inch front wheel, knobbies, skid plate, LED headlight, 2015 handlebars with hand guards, and ready for real ADV riding! 2015 Honda NC700XD
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09-18-2016, 12:27 AM	#6
RedHawk47 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Berthoud, CO Posts: 205	I'm planning a trip to the SW about that time. I'll be pulling my trailer with a bike in the back of the truck; probably the TT250, maybe the RX3. I'm thinking of meeting you at 3 Step on the 19th and staying there the 20th also. Where are you planning to ride? __________________ Dan CSC RX3 Cyclone, CSC TT250, Moto Guzzi V7 II, KLR650
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09-15-2016, 11:45 AM	#5
GSC Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Taos Posts: 104	anybody staying in Moab? I like the Super 8 next to Denneys on the northside. my Debra heard about it and may be tagging along?
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09-21-2016, 11:23 AM	#7
rbrADV Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cornville, AZ Posts: 26	Hi Dan, I am staying in Moab during the week earlier. On Wednesday I am going down to 3 Step (where I will be leaving my bike.) There are lots f options for riding around Moab. The LaSal loop is great, especially through Onion Creek. The ride out to Chicken Corners is pretty cool along the Colorado River.Weather permitting, I would like to do the White Rim Trail either Thursday or Friday, this is about 150 miles total, with about 90 dirt roads. I will ride Saturday morning and then head back hoe to Arizona for 2.5 days of riding. __________________ Arizona ADV Rider. TAT, COBDR, AZBDR, UTBDR, and Alaska! 2016 RX3, 19-inch front wheel, knobbies, skid plate, LED headlight, 2015 handlebars with hand guards, and ready for real ADV riding! 2015 Honda NC700XD
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09-21-2016, 11:27 AM	#8
rbrADV Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cornville, AZ Posts: 26	I will probably stay at the Super 8 earlier in the week while I am 4-wheeling. I am going to drop my trailer and RX3 at 3 step on my way through ad go back there on Wednesday night. They are great folks and live for dual sport riding! There are cabins but I am staying in a Teepee. They provide breakfast, shower, towels, etc. Supper is optional. Just need to provide a sleeping bag for the cot. PS. It is no problem staying in Moab since I have to come through town to start the trails. __________________ Arizona ADV Rider. TAT, COBDR, AZBDR, UTBDR, and Alaska! 2016 RX3, 19-inch front wheel, knobbies, skid plate, LED headlight, 2015 handlebars with hand guards, and ready for real ADV riding! 2015 Honda NC700XD Last edited by rbrADV; 09-21-2016 at 12:26 PM.
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08-29-2016, 05:44 PM	#9
detours Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,004	This is more than a little tempting. I love Moab but haven't been in quite a while ... and never on a motorcycle. I'll have to check with the family tho. __________________ Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol
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08-29-2016, 07:12 PM	#10
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I'd love to go but no time on my end. Ive been there on a mountain bike (bucket list thing to go back), including I believe on the very trail pictured. Highly recommended. I've not done it on the Suzuki DRZ but would love to someday. BTW that snot-mud looks terrible. Glad you made it through. __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-29-2016, 07:23 PM	#11
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Funny I just noticed the Artic Circle sign in your Avatar. Is that on the Dalton north of Fairbanks? If so I have a picture of myself (and Jimmy) at that same sign! __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-30-2016, 02:01 PM	#12
RedHawk47 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Berthoud, CO Posts: 205	I'm planning a "time-out" trip to the Moab area about that time. I may be interested in joining up for some excursions. Permits are needed to White Rim Trail these days - too popular. Onion Creek is a nice ride. Also Hurrah Pass and beyond. Basic dirt skills are enough for both of those. __________________ Dan CSC RX3 Cyclone, CSC TT250, Moto Guzzi V7 II, KLR650
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08-30-2016, 04:07 PM	#13
GSC Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Taos Posts: 104	Never done that before, sounds like a good trip. Count me in if you would. gary
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08-31-2016, 10:19 AM	#15
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870	I've done the White Rim Trail twice, once each direction, with my daughter on our Chinese bikes. Great scenery and not a difficult ride except for deep sand on the west side. It was hot, nearly 100 degrees and there isn't much shade. Don't forget to stop at Mussleman Arch for a pic. A ride up to the top of the LaSalle Mtns is a good way to escape the heat and the aspens are real nice in the fall. This was at the end of September.
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