biggest reliable Chinese enduro

jatgm1 · 08-13-2017, 11:54 AM

I got a hawk 250 (technically a shark 250) and I want more power. I really thought this woud have more power. I'm really looking for something that would be good for trail riding that could also pull two people easily. So basically something light and powerful. Unless theirs a larger engine I can put on it that wouldn't snap the frame, I'm looking for a 400cc Cheap enduro bike.

jatgm1 · 08-13-2017, 12:04 PM

Or a true 250cc top end kit with an oil cooler? I couldn't find one, only 229.

BlackBike · 08-13-2017, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jatgm1

I'm looking for a 400cc Cheap enduro bike.

This is the proverbial unicorn

jatgm1 · 08-13-2017, 12:26 PM

Ok, Chinese 400cc bike. Or a bbk to boost my sharks power.

Merlin · 08-13-2017, 12:31 PM

You can boost the power buy installing a better muffler and carb.

jatgm1 · 08-13-2017, 12:39 PM

I tried that but removing the catalytic converter made the bike idle weird, (couldn't jet it right no matter what I did) if I leave the cat on and just swap the muffler out would that even help? Also the current carb works fine how would switching it help? Also would this fit the hawk?
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/746771916.html
It says it's a 70mm bore, how would I add a liquid cooling system to it?

culcune · 08-13-2017, 01:40 PM

We had 400cc enduros a few years ago, by Xingyue, but they proved to be very unreliable. There was nothing to fix them, sadly, so they slowly left the US. The best enduro right now? The SSR XF250. Member 'dh' has one and has reported taking him and his spouse on So. Cal. highways and freeways two up on it. It uses a Suzuki clone engine (I believe the engine is the same as the TU250X)--a real clone in which parts interchange; parts you can get from Suzuki dealers, lol.

Megadan · 08-13-2017, 05:35 PM

The Pitster Pro LXR250F might be what you are looking for. 31hp and efi. It also comes with a lot of high grade parts like cnc triples and wheel hubs and good alloy rims. Not a cheap bike in the world of Chinese enduros, but still cheaper than Japanese equivalents

Border411 · 08-13-2017, 05:37 PM

The LXR 250 looks like such a nice bike

Sport Rider · 08-13-2017, 09:31 PM

it should for that much money. too bad they don't make an economical version with the same motor.

Megadan · 08-13-2017, 10:16 PM

You get a lot for your money with the lxr250f. I agree that a detuned, carbed version with less fancy parts for around 2500 would be awesome, but to me the suspension alone is worth the extra cost.

I have been eyeballing the SSR SR450s, which is a grand more than the lxr250f. It has had some great reviews and has even been raced successfully. Starting to ventire into good used Japanese bike territory though.

culcune · 08-14-2017, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Megadan

You get a lot for your money with the lxr250f. I agree that a detuned, carbed version with less fancy parts for around 2500 would be awesome,

The Pitster XTR models are supposed to be great bikes (for Chinese); they offer both the 19"/16" version and the 21"/18" version around that price point.

culcune · 08-14-2017, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Border411

The LXR 250 looks like such a nice bike

You have been following Chondachondachonda's thread, I believe? He has been showing how great these bikes are. For your situation, if the Hawk is 'iffy' as far as street registration goes, I can imagine how much more difficult one of the Pitster bikes would be to register.

Megadan · 08-14-2017, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by culcune

I can imagine how much more difficult one of the Pitster bikes would be to register.

I honestly would love to know if there are more examples of successful registration for the SSR and Pitster bikes for road use. I don't doubt that I could register either bike in my state, because Nebraska simply doesn't give much of a damn. I know I have seen one plated example of the SR450S and LXR250F, so much like the Hawk it will probably come down to what state you live in.

culcune · 08-14-2017, 10:42 AM

I know I am getting off-topic a little, but AZ is the same as far as registering most anything with a minimum of street equipment. What I wasn't aware of, is that if one has an enduro (or quad) and has a bare minimum of equipment, AZ will issue a plate that is only good for the daylight hours, whereas if one equips their bike like, say the Hawk, they will get a plate like any other street-legal bike.

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jatgm1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 147	biggest reliable Chinese enduro I got a hawk 250 (technically a shark 250) and I want more power. I really thought this woud have more power. I'm really looking for something that would be good for trail riding that could also pull two people easily. So basically something light and powerful. Unless theirs a larger engine I can put on it that wouldn't snap the frame, I'm looking for a 400cc Cheap enduro bike.
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Merlin Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,107	You can boost the power buy installing a better muffler and carb. __________________ Bashan Blaze Mods: Alloy Rim's, Muffler, Mukuni VM26 Carb, Foam Filter, Tachometer, Volt Meter,LED Headlight, LED Blinkers
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culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	We had 400cc enduros a few years ago, by Xingyue, but they proved to be very unreliable. There was nothing to fix them, sadly, so they slowly left the US. The best enduro right now? The SSR XF250. Member 'dh' has one and has reported taking him and his spouse on So. Cal. highways and freeways two up on it. It uses a Suzuki clone engine (I believe the engine is the same as the TU250X)--a real clone in which parts interchange; parts you can get from Suzuki dealers, lol. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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08-13-2017, 05:35 PM	#8
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,990	The Pitster Pro LXR250F might be what you are looking for. 31hp and efi. It also comes with a lot of high grade parts like cnc triples and wheel hubs and good alloy rims. Not a cheap bike in the world of Chinese enduros, but still cheaper than Japanese equivalents __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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08-13-2017, 10:16 PM	#11
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,990	You get a lot for your money with the lxr250f. I agree that a detuned, carbed version with less fancy parts for around 2500 would be awesome, but to me the suspension alone is worth the extra cost. I have been eyeballing the SSR SR450s, which is a grand more than the lxr250f. It has had some great reviews and has even been raced successfully. Starting to ventire into good used Japanese bike territory though. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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08-13-2017, 12:04 PM	#2
jatgm1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 147	Or a true 250cc top end kit with an oil cooler? I couldn't find one, only 229.
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08-13-2017, 12:26 PM	#4
jatgm1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 147	Ok, Chinese 400cc bike. Or a bbk to boost my sharks power.
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08-13-2017, 12:39 PM	#6
jatgm1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 147	I tried that but removing the catalytic converter made the bike idle weird, (couldn't jet it right no matter what I did) if I leave the cat on and just swap the muffler out would that even help? Also the current carb works fine how would switching it help? Also would this fit the hawk? https://m.aliexpress.com/item/746771916.html It says it's a 70mm bore, how would I add a liquid cooling system to it?
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08-13-2017, 05:37 PM	#9
Border411 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Northern VA Posts: 42	The LXR 250 looks like such a nice bike
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08-13-2017, 09:31 PM	#10
Sport Rider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 2,038	it should for that much money. too bad they don't make an economical version with the same motor.
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08-14-2017, 10:42 AM	#15
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	I know I am getting off-topic a little, but AZ is the same as far as registering most anything with a minimum of street equipment. What I wasn't aware of, is that if one has an enduro (or quad) and has a bare minimum of equipment, AZ will issue a plate that is only good for the daylight hours, whereas if one equips their bike like, say the Hawk, they will get a plate like any other street-legal bike. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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