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No spark on hawk :(
In the middle of finishing up tuning the carb the bike died after running a few minutes on idle. Wouldnt start. It cranks and turns over, has compression, spark plug is wet with fuel. I initially thought it might have been the coil, checked the resistance, and its good, then I thought maybe its the spark plug wire..swapped out the coil and wire into another bike and it was getting spark. So the coil and plug is good, fuel is good. but no spark
 I really dont wanna cut into the wire harness and follow the 2 wires from coil and see if there is a connectivity issue or maybe the kill switch malfunctioned. Any suggestions? |
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05-31-2016, 01:04 AM
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CDI. Buy two.
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05-31-2016, 02:06 AM
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05-31-2016, 07:59 AM
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 http://www.rickypowersports.com/#!ca...ic-parts/m0l0f
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05-31-2016, 09:57 AM
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So I just swapped out a working CDI, still no spark. I tried removing the black and white pin out of the CDI for the kill switch in hopes of bypassing it but still no spark. The kill switch has 2 wires, one green one which I think grounds the ignition coil and the black and wire one that goes to the CDI
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05-31-2016, 10:24 AM
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What's the reading(s) of pickup | source ? http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...t=16179&page=2 #25 tells how...
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05-31-2016, 11:05 AM
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05-31-2016, 08:14 PM
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Is it safe to assume it's my stator?
Kill switched jumped out by putting a ground wire from negative battery terminal to coil. ✔ Ingnition coil confirmed working✔ spark plug confirmed working✔ cdi confirmed working✔ |
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05-31-2016, 09:42 PM
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  Narrow it to [Energy] Source aka exciter... Bl/R >~50V | 300-600Ω Bypass it w/ "DC-CDI" is a streetwise fix [When] Pickup aka trigger... Bu/W >0.5V | 120-180Ω btw.This thingy is RARE to fail physically... the Gap btw flywheel | swap 2 wire's position may solve... U can't really sure what's inside in these days...
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05-31-2016, 10:17 PM
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I've replaced a few Honda stators, they're known to be a weak link. Not sure about other models and how durable they are. Your resistance reading being that far off makes it look like the likely suspect. The common failure with stators is that the insulating coating gets eaten up by the oil and/or heat damaged and wires start shorting out within the coil(s) lowering resistance so your finding is on par with the common stator damage.
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06-01-2016, 05:46 AM
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Oh no....
According to http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16065 , hawk = DC-CDI which similar to http://translate.google.com/translat...asp%3Fpid%3D20 === How to check = There's 1?V in & 190V±20V out
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06-01-2016, 10:19 PM
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09-22-2016, 07:24 AM
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Is there a more up to date link to a CDI that will work? That rickypowersports link is broken for me.
Would this work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Pins-CDI-U...ZXOuFk&vxp=mtr |
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09-22-2016, 09:47 AM
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