TT vs. Hawk - Page 3

Ariel Red Hunter · 12-01-2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Not too sure about that. This itty-bitty tiny, skinny scalloped rotor on my Q works far better than any in my rolling stock. Probably because it disperses heat the quickest having the least amount of material.

Is that a four puck front caliper?

wilserchinarider · 12-01-2016, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimwildman

Not a lot of difference, forks are nice but not worth $1000..

I ordered a csc tt250 skid plate and it fits right on my hawk,, difference noticed is the hawks oil plug don't line up with the cutout on the skid plate.. makes me think there is some difference in the engine.. could just be mounting position I suppose.

it's about an inch forward of the cutout, I made the cutout bigger to accomodate.

Easier and faster to drain the oil out the filter screen plug. I asked on the board here if this was acceptable and Weld mentioned the CG motors didn't have a drain plug and were drained out the screen cap...good enough for me.

2LZ · 12-02-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

Is that a four puck front caliper?

It's your basic generic China 2 piston. They do work amazingly well though. Probably because the lack of inertia to disperse due to the light bike weight. Heck, if it had a 4 piston, it would probably send me over the bars. ;-)

Funny thing is, compared to the bikes we used to ride when we were younger, these CB's are almost state-of-the-art nowadays.

Merlin · 12-02-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Funny thing is, compared to the bikes we used to ride when we were younger, these CB's are almost state-of-the-art nowadays.

Thats just what I thought when I decided it was time to get a CB. These CB's have stuff I could only dream about when I use to ride my old 1980's Yamaha 250 enduro.

hertz9753 · 12-02-2016, 09:48 PM

Did you have DT or an XT?

moparrob · 12-03-2016, 01:54 PM

I had a 1979 DT 250 and, if nothing else, it did not have an electric start.

Merlin · 12-03-2016, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

Did you have DT or an XT?

It was what we called an enduro back then or what we call a dual sport now so I think it was the DT.

hertz9753 · 12-03-2016, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

It was what we called an enduro back then or what we call a dual sport now so I think it was the DT.

The DT was a 2 stroke and the XT was a 4 stroke. I think they did or still do make the XT 250.

Merlin · 12-03-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

The DT was a 2 stroke and the XT was a 4 stroke. I think they did or still do make the XT 250.

Then it was the XT as mine was a 4 stroke. Looked like the pic. Clean lines with NO plastic panels.

hertz9753 · 12-03-2016, 09:13 PM

Rambo was so tough that he could turn an XT 250 into a 2 stroke just twisting the throttle really hard. The first generation of those bikes put out 22HP but was reduced in the mid 80's.

Merlin · 12-03-2016, 09:48 PM

Thats hilarious but nice to see the bike in action. Thanks for the post.

OUTERLIMITS · 12-03-2016, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

Rambo was so tough that he could turn an XT 250 into a 2 stroke just twisting the throttle really hard. The first generation of those bikes put out 22HP but was reduced in the mid 80's.

Yeah kind of funny how the movie industry always wants a motorcycle to sound like a 2-stroke or at least they used to.

hertz9753 · 12-03-2016, 11:37 PM

We used to have a motocross outside of town when I was a kid. Thy had a class called Enduro that was an open class. The dual purpose bikes would ride to the track with a gas can strapped to the back or their bikes and the enduro racers used a trailer or pickup. It's where I fell in love with thumpers.

The class had Kawasaki KE's and KDX's, Yamaha DT's and IT's, Suzuki PE's and DR's and of course the Honda XL and XR.

The Suzuki DR 500 won most of the time on that mostly natural track. a friend of mine rode a 1981 XR 200R and finished in the top 10 most of the time and is the reason my first real street legal bike was a 1981 Honda XL185S.

The sound of the 4 stroke engine hardly working and still throwing a roost is the also the reason why I chose the Hawk as cheap way to get back into motorcycles. You don't need a lot of power to have fun but you have to understand it's limits.

culcune · 12-04-2016, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

Rambo was so tough that he could turn an XT 250 into a 2 stroke just twisting the throttle really hard. The first generation of those bikes put out 22HP but was reduced in the mid 80's.

LOL--that reminds me of the chase scene in "The Seven Ups"--they used the sound effects of the 440 Charger and 390 Mustang from "Bullitt" for a full-size Pontiac Catalina (440 Mopar) and a Pontiac Ventura (390 Mustang). In their defense, it was the same director, and the driver of the Catalina was the same stuntman/actor as the driver of the Charger in Bullitt, Bill Hickman.

As far as enduro bikes' power go, my 1990 DR250s had gobs of power. I wasn't a great rider, but once I was following my friend who was on my DR in my 5.0 Capri, and my speedo was pegged at 85, and my friend reported the DR was over 90 mph according to the bike's speedo. Actually, twice, he had it over 90 according to speedos (waaaaay before GPS).

On one completely stupid late-night run, I was drunk as a skunk, and my friend was probably buzzed, and we rode two up from Northridge to Valencia, Calif. on the 5 Freeway and the 14. Uphill, with two up, we were doing more than the speed limit. Why I remember this particular night--1) we were extremely stupid, and 2) This was the Saturday of the Martin Luther King Holiday weekend, and within 2 days, the interchange of the 14 and the 5 would be wrecked by the Northridge Earthquake.

Anyway, enough memory lane, but I do remember the power of the little 250--and this was the time Suzuki had the exact same bike in 350cc form!?

letsride · 12-04-2016, 07:27 PM

That XT250 reminds me of my beloved Childhood bike. I had a Yamaha MX100 Enduro. Loved that little 2 Stroke machine. I rode that thing everyday, all over these two counties. I also leaned how to do a top end job on a 2 stroke with that bike, after I burned a hole in the piston (why it happened I have no idea). I would love to have one like it back and that XT to go with it. I LOVE old Japanese bikes (I've brought quite a few back from the dead) and old Japanese 2 stroke street bikes even more.

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hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	Rambo was so tough that he could turn an XT 250 into a 2 stroke just twisting the throttle really hard. The first generation of those bikes put out 22HP but was reduced in the mid 80's. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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Merlin Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,107	Thats hilarious but nice to see the bike in action. Thanks for the post. __________________ Bashan Blaze Mods: Alloy Rim's, Muffler, Mukuni VM26 Carb, Foam Filter, Tachometer, Volt Meter,LED Headlight, LED Blinkers
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12-03-2016, 11:37 PM	#43
hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	We used to have a motocross outside of town when I was a kid. Thy had a class called Enduro that was an open class. The dual purpose bikes would ride to the track with a gas can strapped to the back or their bikes and the enduro racers used a trailer or pickup. It's where I fell in love with thumpers. The class had Kawasaki KE's and KDX's, Yamaha DT's and IT's, Suzuki PE's and DR's and of course the Honda XL and XR. The Suzuki DR 500 won most of the time on that mostly natural track. a friend of mine rode a 1981 XR 200R and finished in the top 10 most of the time and is the reason my first real street legal bike was a 1981 Honda XL185S. The sound of the 4 stroke engine hardly working and still throwing a roost is the also the reason why I chose the Hawk as cheap way to get back into motorcycles. You don't need a lot of power to have fun but you have to understand it's limits. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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moparrob Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 79	I had a 1979 DT 250 and, if nothing else, it did not have an electric start.
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12-04-2016, 07:27 PM	#45
letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 832	That XT250 reminds me of my beloved Childhood bike. I had a Yamaha MX100 Enduro. Loved that little 2 Stroke machine. I rode that thing everyday, all over these two counties. I also leaned how to do a top end job on a 2 stroke with that bike, after I burned a hole in the piston (why it happened I have no idea). I would love to have one like it back and that XT to go with it. I LOVE old Japanese bikes (I've brought quite a few back from the dead) and old Japanese 2 stroke street bikes even more.
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