TT vs. Hawk

[tommy.]

Originally Posted by mtiberio

this whole balance shaft vs not has me thinking. I have had many thumpers, and my TT250 is the smoothest. It feels like it would run at 8200RPM all day, and my hands and feet don't suffer. I cannot imagine it would be better without the balance shaft.

As far as the forks go. I doubt there is any measurable benefit. Certainly the "adjustable" rear shock on my TT is still a sh*t shock. I'd certainly feel better taking apart the conventional fork of the Hawk.

nice not having to worry about electric heated gear with the 300W alternator on the TT.

I agree on the smooth part

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by mtiberio

tt250 has
300 watt alternator
2 accessory plugs switched to the right switch cluster
helmet lock
tool kit and tool kit holder
USD forks
1 year unlimited mileage warantee
decent parts source

perhaps other differentiators...

Let's not forget LED turns and taillight, balance shaft motor, stainless fasteners and nice recessed gas cap that also add to the nice touches of the TT....but as moparrob states, it's the CA legal that's worth every penny of the extra $$$....plus CSC themselves....even if there was zero difference between them. It's important here.

IF the Hawk was legal here in CA, it probably would have won out but it's not an option, if you don't want to play DMV games. I've had the "street legal" non-CA China bike here once and it ended up being a worthless little trail bike that I never rode.

According to this site, it's an 845.00 difference....but I'm sure the Hawk can be found less expensive elsewhere.

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/17701

I'm very happy with the TT250 and CSC. Don't regret the purchase one bit.

[Merlin]

Originally Posted by tommy.

It's my opinion about my two bikes. I like the TT

Remember Merlin I can't say why because I could be to harsh, can't have that now can we.

Been there and done that lol. Just wondering for general info.

[mtiberio]

plus the TT has braided SS brake lines. Does the Hawk?

[chuck]

Yes

[mtiberio]

Scalloped Rotors front and rear?

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by mtiberio

Scalloped Rotors front and rear?

And scalloped rotors help braking exactly how?

[mtiberio]

Clean debris
Lighter
Look trick

[timcosby]

Originally Posted by OUTERLIMITS

I'm in California and will still probably go the hawk route (going to register a pair of them at my brother's in AZ). Just too much of a difference in price to pass up. Also, just because they are inverted forks, does not necessarily make them better.

After all, technically this bike has inverted forks as well....

i road the wheels of of one of those in the early seventies. bent the frame from jumping it too high!

[motorcyclelove]

I have been researching this same thing for seems like 6 months now. Like others have said if you live in an area where it's either impossible or a pain in the ass to register a hawk the TT is the way to go. It also depends on your mechanical ability and confidence. CSC is just a phone call away with help, parts, and guidance. You also have a warranty, with the hawk you are on your own besides help from this great community here. I live in GA and the hawk is getting hard to register here in urban areas so I'm leaning toward the TT(if I can ever save up enough $ finally!) I'm divorced with kids and it's time to play Santa now otherwise I'd jump on the 2016 CSC closeout sale.

[OUTERLIMITS]

Originally Posted by timcosby

i road the wheels of of one of those in the early seventies. bent the frame from jumping it too high!

Bet you never broke a spoke from jumping it either

[jimwildman]

Not a lot of difference, forks are nice but not worth $1000..

I ordered a csc tt250 skid plate and it fits right on my hawk,, difference noticed is the hawks oil plug don't line up with the cutout on the skid plate.. makes me think there is some difference in the engine.. could just be mounting position I suppose.

it's about an inch forward of the cutout, I made the cutout bigger to accomodate.

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by jimwildman

Not a lot of difference, forks are nice but not worth $1000..

I ordered a csc tt250 skid plate and it fits right on my hawk,, difference noticed is the hawks oil plug don't line up with the cutout on the skid plate.. makes me think there is some difference in the engine.. could just be mounting position I suppose.

it's about an inch forward of the cutout, I made the cutout bigger to accomodate.

Maybe the drain plug is in a different spot to accommodate the balance shaft?

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by mtiberio

Clean debris
Lighter
Look trick

Look trick is about all it does. Now if these were plasma coated aluminum rotors, then we'd be talking something. Talkin' the talk is not the same thing as walkin' the walk.

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

Look trick is about all it does. Now if these were plasma coated aluminum rotors, then we'd be talking something. Talkin' the talk is not the same thing as walkin' the walk.

Not too sure about that. This itty-bitty tiny, skinny scalloped rotor on my Q works far better than any in my rolling stock. Probably because it disperses heat the quickest having the least amount of material.