Noise Reduction

pyoungbl · 08-28-2017, 04:02 PM

When you crank up an RX3 it's not very noisy. Even rev it up to, say, 5K and it's not all that loud. On the highway I have discovered that the noise level gets pretty loud under certain conditions. Specifically, when the throttle is open about 90% or more at highway speed. If the throttle is partially closed while on a slight downhill slope or even just maintaining 60 mph the noise level drops quite a bit. I'm thinking that the culprit is not exhaust noise but rather intake noise. Anyone else giving this some thought? Any ideas on how to mitigate the noise if it is intake related. I thought about coating the inside of the air box with some kind of rubber. I'm open to any suggestions because I am already wearing ear plugs and the noise is starting to concern me due to my known hearing loss.

Peter Y.

Jay In Milpitas · 09-02-2017, 02:22 PM

Your conclusion of noise generation is correct.
I've played around with exhaust silencing also and concluded the same as you.

Lining the inside of the plenum isn't likely to do much to mitigate the intake pulse noise, it's more a need of sonic wave diversion or baffles inside the plenum.

It may be a result of plenum size/shape making it louder than it needs to be. I wonder if the RC3 uses the same box and does it make the same sounds. That would require the evaluation on someone who has access to both models. cough cough Gatling cough

I also wonder if the body & windshield bits amplify the noise. Anyway, since the air filter chamber isn't something that easily pops out, I haven't bothered to pursue the issue. Now if someone decides to replace the stock system with a pod filter on the end of 4 feet of radiator hose, perhaps they can report back.

2LZ · 09-07-2017, 10:14 AM

I did the pod (minus 4' radiator hose) and it didn't make much difference regarding noise. I also discovered that it didn't make much, if any difference regarding power. I went back to the stock filter box, like rtking.
I did however, cure the intake noise problem by installing a slightly louder muffler! ;-)

RedHawk47 · 09-24-2017, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pyoungbl

When you crank up an RX3 it's not very noisy. Even rev it up to, say, 5K and it's not all that loud. On the highway I have discovered that the noise level gets pretty loud under certain conditions. Specifically, when the throttle is open about 90% or more at highway speed. If the throttle is partially closed while on a slight downhill slope or even just maintaining 60 mph the noise level drops quite a bit. I'm thinking that the culprit is not exhaust noise but rather intake noise. Anyone else giving this some thought? Any ideas on how to mitigate the noise if it is intake related. I thought about coating the inside of the air box with some kind of rubber. I'm open to any suggestions because I am already wearing ear plugs and the noise is starting to concern me due to my known hearing loss.

Peter Y.

I have this same complaint as Peter; in fact, I find that the noise level at WOT is starting to annoy me. I wonder if the airbox walls are flexing, and maybe even getting into a harmonic pattern? I am thinking of pop-riveting some stiffeners on the outside or inside of the box. Another idea - I think I have some adhesive backed sound-deadening material. Worth a try!

rjmorel · 09-26-2017, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RedHawk47

I have this same complaint as Peter; in fact, I find that the noise level at WOT is starting to annoy me. I wonder if the airbox walls are flexing, and maybe even getting into a harmonic pattern? I am thinking of pop-riveting some stiffeners on the outside or inside of the box. Another idea - I think I have some adhesive backed sound-deadening material. Worth a try!

Red hawk, let us know what helps. When I did the Iron Butt on my RX3 the droning was quite noticeable. I do believe it is air box resonance, rj

Jay In Milpitas · 09-26-2017, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rjmorel

Red hawk, let us know what helps. When I did the Iron Butt on my RX3 the droning was quite noticeable. I do believe it is air box resonance, rj

Yes, especially odd since the box inlets are under the seat.
Maybe we need Cooper & Wolowitz to team up and look for a solution.

AdventureDad · 09-26-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

Yes, especially odd since the box inlets are under the seat.
Maybe we need Cooper & Wolowitz to team up and look for a solution.

You saw what Wolowitz did with the Mars Rover....I'd look to Raj

ben2go · 09-26-2017, 11:07 PM

Ear plugs and/or build a larger chambered/baffled air box with a flat small engine style airfilter

vttrailboss · 09-27-2017, 07:17 AM

How about noise cancelling headphones? Personally, for long rides, I use ear plugs. It'll help save your hearing from the wind noise as well. Oh, and I get them for free too.

pyoungbl · 09-28-2017, 02:20 PM

Thanks for all the great ideas. You'll note that I already wear ear plugs. Noise canceling headphones might be OK if I were flying an airplane but I suspect they won't fit very well under my full face helmet. For now I'm stuck with the best plugs I can buy, with a 31DB reduction. Doing some mods to the airbox might be my winter project. I'm wary of doing much in that area because the engineers tend to have a reason for the airbox size and design, something to do with resonance and engine performance.

Peter Y.

ben2go · 09-28-2017, 02:30 PM

You could try a down facing snorkel on the airbox. That may redirect the sound down and away from you, but it may suck up water if you ride through deep water.

ChopperCharles · 06-09-2021, 09:03 PM

Any luck with this? I'm finding the intake roar under high-load (uphill, fully loaded, my fatass on the bike) is really loud, even with really good earplugs.

Charles.

tknj99 · 06-09-2021, 09:59 PM

The RX4 has the same symptom under heavy load when im using my full helmet.. I've found though that with my half helmet mated with ear buds there is no drone and is much more comfortable overall, not ideal I know, but works for longer rides

Working_ZS · 06-09-2021, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopperCharles

Any luck with this? I'm finding the intake roar under high-load (uphill, fully loaded, my fatass on the bike) is really loud, even with really good earplugs.

Charles.

This might help:

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=28511

ChopperCharles · 06-10-2021, 03:37 PM

It really doesn't. I can't tell what he's actually done there.

Charles.

08-28-2017, 04:02 PM	#1
pyoungbl Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portsmouth, Virginia, USA Posts: 631	Noise Reduction When you crank up an RX3 it's not very noisy. Even rev it up to, say, 5K and it's not all that loud. On the highway I have discovered that the noise level gets pretty loud under certain conditions. Specifically, when the throttle is open about 90% or more at highway speed. If the throttle is partially closed while on a slight downhill slope or even just maintaining 60 mph the noise level drops quite a bit. I'm thinking that the culprit is not exhaust noise but rather intake noise. Anyone else giving this some thought? Any ideas on how to mitigate the noise if it is intake related. I thought about coating the inside of the air box with some kind of rubber. I'm open to any suggestions because I am already wearing ear plugs and the noise is starting to concern me due to my known hearing loss. Peter Y.
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09-02-2017, 02:22 PM	#2
Jay In Milpitas Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Milpitas, CA. USA Posts: 775	Sucking decibels. Your conclusion of noise generation is correct. I've played around with exhaust silencing also and concluded the same as you. Lining the inside of the plenum isn't likely to do much to mitigate the intake pulse noise, it's more a need of sonic wave diversion or baffles inside the plenum. It may be a result of plenum size/shape making it louder than it needs to be. I wonder if the RC3 uses the same box and does it make the same sounds. That would require the evaluation on someone who has access to both models. cough cough Gatling cough I also wonder if the body & windshield bits amplify the noise. Anyway, since the air filter chamber isn't something that easily pops out, I haven't bothered to pursue the issue. Now if someone decides to replace the stock system with a pod filter on the end of 4 feet of radiator hose, perhaps they can report back. __________________ Horse holder at Madame Orr's House.
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09-07-2017, 10:14 AM	#3
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,049	I did the pod (minus 4' radiator hose) and it didn't make much difference regarding noise. I also discovered that it didn't make much, if any difference regarding power. I went back to the stock filter box, like rtking. I did however, cure the intake noise problem by installing a slightly louder muffler! ;-) __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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09-27-2017, 07:17 AM	#9
vttrailboss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vermont Posts: 62	How about noise cancelling headphones? Personally, for long rides, I use ear plugs. It'll help save your hearing from the wind noise as well. Oh, and I get them for free too. __________________ Newest machine: 2020... Oldest: 1916'ish
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06-09-2021, 09:59 PM	#13
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,242	The RX4 has the same symptom under heavy load when im using my full helmet.. I've found though that with my half helmet mated with ear buds there is no drone and is much more comfortable overall, not ideal I know, but works for longer rides __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2017 Honda Fury Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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09-26-2017, 11:07 PM	#8
ben2go Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,335	Ear plugs and/or build a larger chambered/baffled air box with a flat small engine style airfilter
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09-28-2017, 02:20 PM	#10
pyoungbl Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portsmouth, Virginia, USA Posts: 631	Thanks for all the great ideas. You'll note that I already wear ear plugs. Noise canceling headphones might be OK if I were flying an airplane but I suspect they won't fit very well under my full face helmet. For now I'm stuck with the best plugs I can buy, with a 31DB reduction. Doing some mods to the airbox might be my winter project. I'm wary of doing much in that area because the engineers tend to have a reason for the airbox size and design, something to do with resonance and engine performance. Peter Y.
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09-28-2017, 02:30 PM	#11
ben2go Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,335	You could try a down facing snorkel on the airbox. That may redirect the sound down and away from you, but it may suck up water if you ride through deep water.
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06-09-2021, 09:03 PM	#12
ChopperCharles Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 677	Any luck with this? I'm finding the intake roar under high-load (uphill, fully loaded, my fatass on the bike) is really loud, even with really good earplugs. Charles.
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06-10-2021, 03:37 PM	#15
ChopperCharles Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 677	It really doesn't. I can't tell what he's actually done there. Charles.
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