CA Legal

2LZ · 01-10-2017, 11:35 AM

About once a week, I comb the mega-warehouse sites and see what may pop up for us CA guys. It's usually pretty limited. I found this today.

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/20930

Any idea what or who makes it?

Funny thing is...it's a street bike....but it shows CA Green Sticker...which is off-road.

tortoise · 01-10-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Funny thing is...it's a street bike....but it shows CA Green Sticker...which is off-road.

Specs are also suspect . . "Final Drive . . Belt"?

culcune · 01-10-2017, 02:29 PM

Good question on manufacturer?! I think this bike is only a loophole--you can probably only green-sticker it for racing, as they listed several states where it is not legal at all. If it was CARB approved for onroad, then it would also be EPA/DOT certified and have the FMMV certificate and on the database.

My guess--if you look on any of the EPA certification lists (off road or on road), an engine gets certified, and down the row, it lists all the models of bike that engine comes on. i.e.--the Hawk and Magician are on the same certification on the 'off-road' list. My guess; one of the pitbike companies threw this model bike in with one of the pitbikes, and got it green-stickered, either on purpose (my guess) or by accident (unlikely). Unlikely because many manufacturers have several bikes listed that never get sent here, so the fact this one was sent is NOT by accident. I am also guessing that no one (except maybe a dealer or distributor--as personal bikes) will get this bike plated in California. Just as one would not be able to plate a 250cc Apollo--that loophole was closed years ago in California thanks to a slew of people getting KTM's plated (I remember a bunch of people on advrider posting how they got letters from the DMV in the later 2000's telling them that their bike's plate was accidentally issued and was no longer valid, and, in typical fascist style, they even sent DMV agents to confiscate plates and/or bikes!)

Unless...this bike is made by Boom! International; the same company that makes the Vader which is California street legal, but is also 50 state legal and would not be banned in Penn. NJ, Conn. and/or whoever was listed in the link you posted, 2LZ. Then, they posted in error. Do you have time to call? I am curious, not because I want one, but because I seem to have an interest in finding things like this out. Call me weird like that...

wheelbender6 · 01-10-2017, 10:16 PM

Looks like a K-Pipe with full fairings.

dh · 01-13-2017, 11:00 AM

Sure looks like it was designed to be street legal. The electric cooling fan caught my eye.

culcune · 01-13-2017, 06:50 PM

If you look at the Vader 125 which is made or imported by Baodaio/Boom! International, on the Powersportsmax site, it has the same states listed as not being allowed to purchase that bike, and also states the Vader is Cal. green sticker. In the listing for this bike, it mentions the engine model as being a BDXXXXX, so I am guessing it is imported and sold by Baodaio who import and sell the Vader. That is just my guess, and this bike is not on their website.

http://www.baodiaomt.com/USAabout/

BlackBike · 01-14-2017, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by culcune

If you look at the Vader 125 which is made or imported by Baodaio/Boom! International, on the Powersportsmax site, it has the same states listed as not being allowed to purchase that bike, and also states the Vader is Cal. green sticker. In the listing for this bike, it mentions the engine model as being a BDXXXXX, so I am guessing it is imported and sold by Baodaio who import and sell the Vader. That is just my guess, and this bike is not on their website.

http://www.baodiaomt.com/USAabout/

"The best partner of your happy life." I guess it sounds better in Chinese.

culcune · 01-14-2017, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike

"The best partner of your happy life." I guess it sounds better in Chinese.

Or, you can be cool and funny and ride a Zongshen Rapido

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01-10-2017, 11:35 AM	#1
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,078	CA Legal About once a week, I comb the mega-warehouse sites and see what may pop up for us CA guys. It's usually pretty limited. I found this today. http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/20930 Any idea what or who makes it? Funny thing is...it's a street bike....but it shows CA Green Sticker...which is off-road. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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01-10-2017, 02:29 PM	#3
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Good question on manufacturer?! I think this bike is only a loophole--you can probably only green-sticker it for racing, as they listed several states where it is not legal at all. If it was CARB approved for onroad, then it would also be EPA/DOT certified and have the FMMV certificate and on the database. My guess--if you look on any of the EPA certification lists (off road or on road), an engine gets certified, and down the row, it lists all the models of bike that engine comes on. i.e.--the Hawk and Magician are on the same certification on the 'off-road' list. My guess; one of the pitbike companies threw this model bike in with one of the pitbikes, and got it green-stickered, either on purpose (my guess) or by accident (unlikely). Unlikely because many manufacturers have several bikes listed that never get sent here, so the fact this one was sent is NOT by accident. I am also guessing that no one (except maybe a dealer or distributor--as personal bikes) will get this bike plated in California. Just as one would not be able to plate a 250cc Apollo--that loophole was closed years ago in California thanks to a slew of people getting KTM's plated (I remember a bunch of people on advrider posting how they got letters from the DMV in the later 2000's telling them that their bike's plate was accidentally issued and was no longer valid, and, in typical fascist style, they even sent DMV agents to confiscate plates and/or bikes!) Unless...this bike is made by Boom! International; the same company that makes the Vader which is California street legal, but is also 50 state legal and would not be banned in Penn. NJ, Conn. and/or whoever was listed in the link you posted, 2LZ. Then, they posted in error. Do you have time to call? I am curious, not because I want one, but because I seem to have an interest in finding things like this out. Call me weird like that... __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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01-10-2017, 10:16 PM	#4
wheelbender6 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Houston area Posts: 1,902	Looks like a K-Pipe with full fairings. __________________ "Its not WHAT you ride; its THAT you ride"
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01-13-2017, 11:00 AM	#5
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 451	Sure looks like it was designed to be street legal. The electric cooling fan caught my eye. __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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01-13-2017, 06:50 PM	#6
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	If you look at the Vader 125 which is made or imported by Baodaio/Boom! International, on the Powersportsmax site, it has the same states listed as not being allowed to purchase that bike, and also states the Vader is Cal. green sticker. In the listing for this bike, it mentions the engine model as being a BDXXXXX, so I am guessing it is imported and sold by Baodaio who import and sell the Vader. That is just my guess, and this bike is not on their website. http://www.baodiaomt.com/USAabout/ __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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