Is this a decent bike?

shortyg83 · 07-27-2012, 08:52 AM

My father is looking for something cheap to do some street riding. Nothing highway just around town and such.
He was looking at this
http://bajamotorsports.net/categorie...ja-phoenix-250

is this bike decent?
He found it for under 1k brand new.

katoranger · 07-27-2012, 09:15 AM

Look down a few threads for the one on the hensim 250. Also there is another member who bought the baja.

Shift linkage is a problem that can be addressed. Under $1K, maybe.

SpudRider · 08-17-2012, 01:41 AM

Under $1,000 is a nice price. However, if this is the bike which has transmission problems, I don't think I would want it. :roll:

Spud

FastDoc · 08-17-2012, 11:37 AM

Tempting but more than a few members had non-resolvable transmission problems with the Hensiem. There was also the linkage issues which is not a big deal.

IIRC the tranny failures occured at low mileage so.....

If a guy found one with a few miles on it that was good it might make a nice bike.

SpudRider · 08-17-2012, 01:27 PM

I don't remember. Is this Baja bike the same as the Hensim 250? :?:

Spud

FastDoc · 08-17-2012, 01:28 PM

I don't know for sure but they look the same.

SpudRider · 08-17-2012, 01:30 PM

I would not want to split the crankcase trying to fix the transmission in a Hensim 250. :roll:

Spud :?

FastDoc · 08-17-2012, 01:45 PM

Agreed. Even if a person could identify the problem then what? Where would he get a gear, and if he did it would not help in the long run because it would be the same gear that failed.

Unless a Rebel's parts would be interchangeable, and I would not bet on that.

SpudRider · 08-17-2012, 01:52 PM

Who wants to split the crankcase in a new bike? :roll: I don't look forward to that task with a Japanese bike, let alone a Chinese bike.

Besides the broken parts, you need a full gasket set, et cetera. Splitting the crankcase takes a lot of time and money. :(

Spud :roll:

TheRealWorld · 08-22-2012, 11:50 PM

I have one that I have had for several years, I have not ridden it a lot, and I have had the transmission issues form the start. I have never torn it apart, and think I might be able to fix it, but I will continue to ride, and shift carfully and maybe it will hold up. I used to have a honda years ago, and that transmission was flawless, but now I am old and cheap, and I still feel I got my money's worth.

Keep looking and see if you can find someone who has one that the tranny is not a problem. What is the actual price they are asking.

07-27-2012, 08:52 AM	#1
shortyg83 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 63	Is this a decent bike? My father is looking for something cheap to do some street riding. Nothing highway just around town and such. He was looking at this http://bajamotorsports.net/categorie...ja-phoenix-250 is this bike decent? He found it for under 1k brand new.
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07-27-2012, 09:15 AM	#2
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Look down a few threads for the one on the hensim 250. Also there is another member who bought the baja. Shift linkage is a problem that can be addressed. Under $1K, maybe. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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08-17-2012, 01:41 AM	#3
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Under $1,000 is a nice price. However, if this is the bike which has transmission problems, I don't think I would want it. :roll: Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-17-2012, 11:37 AM	#4
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Tempting but more than a few members had non-resolvable transmission problems with the Hensiem. There was also the linkage issues which is not a big deal. IIRC the tranny failures occured at low mileage so..... If a guy found one with a few miles on it that was good it might make a nice bike. __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-17-2012, 01:27 PM	#5
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I don't remember. Is this Baja bike the same as the Hensim 250? :?: Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-17-2012, 01:28 PM	#6
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I don't know for sure but they look the same. __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-17-2012, 01:30 PM	#7
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I would not want to split the crankcase trying to fix the transmission in a Hensim 250. :roll: Spud :? __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-17-2012, 01:45 PM	#8
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Agreed. Even if a person could identify the problem then what? Where would he get a gear, and if he did it would not help in the long run because it would be the same gear that failed. Unless a Rebel's parts would be interchangeable, and I would not bet on that. __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-17-2012, 01:52 PM	#9
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Who wants to split the crankcase in a new bike? :roll: I don't look forward to that task with a Japanese bike, let alone a Chinese bike. Besides the broken parts, you need a full gasket set, et cetera. Splitting the crankcase takes a lot of time and money. :( Spud :roll: __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-22-2012, 11:50 PM	#10
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I have one that I have had for several years, I have not ridden it a lot, and I have had the transmission issues form the start. I have never torn it apart, and think I might be able to fix it, but I will continue to ride, and shift carfully and maybe it will hold up. I used to have a honda years ago, and that transmission was flawless, but now I am old and cheap, and I still feel I got my money's worth. Keep looking and see if you can find someone who has one that the tranny is not a problem. What is the actual price they are asking.
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