Who killed the electric car? - Page 2

VinceDrake · 11-16-2008, 12:25 AM

Sort-of On topic, I booked a Toyota Camry Hybrid rental for next weekend, I can't wait to play...

Scary part is, I had to book the Hybrid 2 months in advance to be guaranteed one for rental!

I can't wait to get it on the hoist!

--Vince

Jim · 11-16-2008, 02:24 AM

Rental car on the hoist?

warrior91 · 11-16-2008, 08:51 AM

I would be interested to see if these electric motors will turn after driving through snow powder and then being parked over night in -40 weather with a -75 windchill.
Sometimes my old chev is cranky and the toyota sounds like it will buzz itself to death...but if they fire they usually move.
The power in electric is there ,but I wonder if the inards will freeze rooster stiff and refuse to even make 1 rpm???
At least my internal combustion engine produces heat to warm up...where does heat come from in an electric car???Plug in a toaster oven or hair dryer???That will be great for Power conservation...

VinceDrake · 11-16-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

Rental car on the hoist?

Yup. I like to get a leg up on what's coming down the pipe. Take a look around, usually the rent-a-floggins are 1 year old max, but had the crap pounded out of them-- Gives me a good idea of what I need to look for when the come off warranty and my clients have them...

--Vince

Alaskan-Dad · 11-16-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceDrake

Sort-of On topic, I booked a Toyota Camry Hybrid rental for next weekend, I can't wait to play...

Scary part is, I had to book the Hybrid 2 months in advance to be guaranteed one for rental!

I can't wait to get it on the hoist!

--Vince

I say your on topic, I started this thread so people get an idea of what electrics can do and have done and just to give us something else interesting to post about.
A mechanics inspection and viewpoint of a Toyota hybrid is most definitely interesting!
Can't wait to read what your findings are :wink:

winwun · 11-16-2008, 07:11 PM

I wonder what the specs on the genset of a hybrid is . . .

I forsee, with proliferation of these autos, there will become available from roll-overs, rear-enders, etc, a source of generators, provided the specs are conducive to appliance demands.

One thing hybrids need (and they may have) is the ability to utilize the burn-off of energy in braking as charging for the batteries.

Braking, historically, is a wastrel of the energy built up from previous acceleration, and to wastefully burn this off as heat is a crime . . .

Jim · 11-16-2008, 07:29 PM

I believe they do typically have regenerative braking but I could be wrong... That chevy volt is supposed to have it when it comes out.

VinceDrake · 11-17-2008, 08:16 PM

All of the "true" hybrids in production right now do use one of the Moto-Generators for regenerative braking. From Toyota Prius all the way up to The Chevrolet Sierra Hybrid.

That does *not* include the Gm "Mild" hybrids though. The mild hybrid just doesn't have the capability. A 80-series serpentine belt can only do so much!

I am *really looking forward to torture testing the Camry this weekend... It's not just a hybrid, but an "Atkins Cycle" engine too! I can't wait!

--Vince

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VinceDrake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Saskatchewan Posts: 491	Sort-of On topic, I booked a Toyota Camry Hybrid rental for next weekend, I can't wait to play... Scary part is, I had to book the Hybrid 2 months in advance to be guaranteed one for rental! I can't wait to get it on the hoist! --Vince __________________ "Sometimes it is better to say nothing, and let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it."
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Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Rental car on the hoist? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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11-16-2008, 08:51 AM	#18
warrior91 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: N.E. Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 679	I would be interested to see if these electric motors will turn after driving through snow powder and then being parked over night in -40 weather with a -75 windchill. Sometimes my old chev is cranky and the toyota sounds like it will buzz itself to death...but if they fire they usually move. The power in electric is there ,but I wonder if the inards will freeze rooster stiff and refuse to even make 1 rpm??? At least my internal combustion engine produces heat to warm up...where does heat come from in an electric car???Plug in a toaster oven or hair dryer???That will be great for Power conservation... __________________ '91 Yamaha Warrior- stage 2 '83 Honda ATC 70 '08 Yongjiang 125cc mx (Loncin) '08 Yongjiang 150cc atv (Jinlong)
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11-16-2008, 07:11 PM	#21
winwun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 169	I wonder what the specs on the genset of a hybrid is . . . I forsee, with proliferation of these autos, there will become available from roll-overs, rear-enders, etc, a source of generators, provided the specs are conducive to appliance demands. One thing hybrids need (and they may have) is the ability to utilize the burn-off of energy in braking as charging for the batteries. Braking, historically, is a wastrel of the energy built up from previous acceleration, and to wastefully burn this off as heat is a crime . . . __________________ If everyone picked up a couple of pieces of litter, pretty soon there wouldn't be ANY, and wouldn't THAT be nice ? Luke, 11: 21
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11-16-2008, 07:29 PM	#22
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	I believe they do typically have regenerative braking but I could be wrong... That chevy volt is supposed to have it when it comes out. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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11-17-2008, 08:16 PM	#23
VinceDrake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Saskatchewan Posts: 491	All of the "true" hybrids in production right now do use one of the Moto-Generators for regenerative braking. From Toyota Prius all the way up to The Chevrolet Sierra Hybrid. That does not include the Gm "Mild" hybrids though. The mild hybrid just doesn't have the capability. A 80-series serpentine belt can only do so much! I am *really looking forward to torture testing the Camry this weekend... It's not just a hybrid, but an "Atkins Cycle" engine too! I can't wait! --Vince __________________ "Sometimes it is better to say nothing, and let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it."
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