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Old 02-06-2015, 01:11 PM   #1
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Chineros, I am in the process of engine assembling. I need to tight the cylinder hed bolts but I am confused. Zongshen uses cylinder head bolt 8-12 N.m, connecting bolt of cylinder head 10-12 N.m, and cylinder head nut 20-30 N.m. Yamaha TW200 recommends cylinder head bolts 22 N.m, socket head bolts 20 N.m, and bolts 10 N.m. Should I use only tw200 recommendation or zongshen?. By the way, I don´t know what exactly are connecting bolt of cylinder head and cylinder head nut (there is no figure).

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Old 02-06-2015, 04:06 PM   #2
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If you post photos of the bolts/nuts, we can help you to determine the torque values.

Since the two engines are virtually identical, I always use the Yamaha torque specifications.
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Old 02-06-2015, 11:22 PM   #3
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If you post photos of the bolts/nuts, we can help you to determine the torque values.

Since the two engines are virtually identical, I always use the Yamaha torque specifications.
I google the cylinder bolt and nut and they are the same as tw200. Thus, I will use yamaha specifications.

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Old 02-06-2015, 11:35 PM   #4
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Old 02-09-2015, 03:32 PM   #5
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Hi, I assembled the engine but notice the cam chain tensioner is diferent from Spud´s one and that mentioned in tw200 service manual. I wonder if mine is incomplete since it does not have the bolt that spud´s tensioner has.





Also, I learned that the chain is very tight when installing the tensioner. I am confused since tw200 service manual recommends a 0.5 mm of tensioner rod position. Mine is about 0.11 mm and can´t adjust it ´til 0.5 mm. The next video shows the difference in tension when releasing the spring (tension cam chain) and when the spring is compressed (loose cam chain)

In other words, the tensioner can´t be adjusted.


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Old 02-09-2015, 04:27 PM   #6
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The tensioner is automatic. When you release the screwdriver the tension is set properly. Your tensioner is working as it should.

You are missing the end bolt which keeps oil in the engine, and dirt from entering the engine. Can you find another bolt which fits the hole?
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:38 PM   #7
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The tensioner is automatic. When you release the screwdriver the tension is set properly. Your tensioner is working as it should.

You are missing the end bolt which keeps oil in the engine, and dirt from entering the engine. Can you find another bolt which fits the hole?
I did find a bolt for the tensioner. The gas tank is at the shop for painting (red mustang). I checked the plug and is white. The drill bit I used for increasing the size of the hole in the main jet is 1/16" (1.58 mm). When riding at low speeds or 2/4 of throttle the plug is black but at 3/4 o 4/4 of throttle the plug is white. Because I´m out of money these days (I went to the beach), I want to increase the hole´size but I am afraid the drill bit size will be 5/64" (don´t think will find an intermediate size 1/16-5/64"). Also I will cut over 27 cm of exhaust and not sure how this will affect the carb. I mean, will need to increase jet size or decrease?

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Old 02-18-2015, 07:48 PM   #8
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Personally, I would not drill the carburetor jets. Mikuni main jets are very inexpensive, if purchased from the following vendor.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...uni%20n102/221



You can learn more about carburetor jets for you Zong by reading the following threads.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6501
http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6528
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:36 PM   #9
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Personally, I would not drill the carburetor jets. Mikuni main jets are very inexpensive, if purchased from the following vendor.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...uni%20n102/221



You can learn more about carburetor jets for you Zong by reading the following threads.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6501
http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6528
I found a mainjet similar to the picture above, the brand is honda No. 133 and 138 but not sure if the diameter hole equals to 1.33 and 1.38 mm. Acording to some comments from motrcycle forums 132 = 1.32 mm (mine was 132 and now is 1.58 mm). It costs about $9 dlls but not sure if they will help to solve the white plug.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:33 PM   #10
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Hey Hect any news on the TK jets? I have a Teikei MV30 which nearly identical to the MV28 that Spud and many others have put together ton of resources for.

After doing some mods that created a lean condition, I had my TK main"128" jet drilled out an estimated "couple sizes" by a local shop this week which helped a bit, but I will be ordering a variety of those Mikuni jets so I have numbers to work with.

Also, I saw that Sigma 6 jets makes jet performance kits for a variety Zongs and my SSR with TK, I have not asked them if they sell individual TK jets however.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:49 AM   #11
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Hey Hect any news on the TK jets? I have a Teikei MV30 which nearly identical to the MV28 that Spud and many others have put together ton of resources for.

After doing some mods that created a lean condition, I had my TK main"128" jet drilled out an estimated "couple sizes" by a local shop this week which helped a bit, but I will be ordering a variety of those Mikuni jets so I have numbers to work with.

Also, I saw that Sigma 6 jets makes jet performance kits for a variety Zongs and my SSR with TK, I have not asked them if they sell individual TK jets however.
dh, I just installed a keihin 140 round jet today. This tue will ride and will let you know. BTW, I found a 130 and 138 but they did not match into the main nozzle. If the plug is still white will decrease one size (if I find it in other bike shops). I just learned that Keihin will have a store down in San Luis Potosi although will take a while until begin business (it is under construction)

http://www.keihin-na.com/company/keihin-de-mexico/

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Old 02-19-2015, 12:44 AM   #12
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Jets are even cheaper when purchased directly from China. Shipping is often free.

I drill jets occasionally, but I use a numbered drill bit set that has many sizes in between the typical 64ths.
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Old 02-19-2015, 01:28 AM   #13
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1/16th is way too big for a main jet. I have drilled jets and you use a oriface drill set and a pin vice to hold the bit. I can't give exact sizes off top of my head, they are out in the garage/shop. You can solder a too big jet completely shut and start over. There are charts on the internet that give the hole size that corilates with jet sizes. John


 
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It's easy with Mikuni jets, because they're Metric. A 100 jet means 1.00mm, a 110 jet means 1.1mm, etc.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:34 PM   #15
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It's easy with Mikuni jets, because they're Metric. A 100 jet means 1.00mm, a 110 jet means 1.1mm, etc.
I went to the hardware store but did not find a metric drill bit. They have only on 64ths. I will take the mainjet this wed to some motorcycle shops and see if I find something for the carb.

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