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Old 01-03-2017, 07:13 AM   #1
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Grin Initial impression of RX3 for a trail bike rider

Greetings Rx3 Riders,

need Feed back guys!

After I unpacked and assembled my RX3, I was to curious to jump on the saddle and cruise all the way to long stretches.

But I am completing its running period for now besides its cold winter here.

Few issues which I am facing#

1 - I am coming from DR250 to this so soon as I started to ride cyclone I noticed the speedometer goes crazy and show misleading speeds, like the bike is hardly doing a 100kmh and speedometer is showing ~133kmh, also feul gauge is not right too..
(I will be reading spud's post about SpeedoDRD which i found already in detail some day and will DIY)

2 - The LED lamps dont have enough juice to light up the road properly (I will go for extra LEDs for this)

3 - Bike is power less completely untill you go above 5k RPM, not like the DR which would throw you like a sling shot from 0 to 100, is it only with my RX or is it a usual case ?

I was directed by john from another FB rx3 fan page to come here and @spud @spudrider can guide or help out to learn more about my new bike.

comments and suggestions are wellcome..

here is my ride.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:04 PM   #2
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Hello and welcome!

The RX3 with fuel injection is very sensitive to valve clearance. Be sure you have that adjusted correctly.

RX3 also have sprockets that are better for high speed. For trails most riders have changed to 13t front sprocket, and some have also changed the back sprocket to 46t from stock 44. Really makes the power feel better.

I can not help you about the speedometer, I don't look at mine.

You can make the fuel gauge read better by bending the arm for the float. You will find instructions somewhere here.

Good luck, enjoy your RX3!


 
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:36 PM   #3
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3 - Bike is power less completely untill you go above 5k RPM, not like the DR which would throw you like a sling shot from 0 to 100, is it only with my RX or is it a usual case ?.......
No, it is not only with your RX3.

The engine is high revving, and runs best (for me) between 5,000 and 8,000 rpm.

Does your RX3 have a carburetor or fuel injection?

In the US, the RX3's have fuel injection. In some other countries, carburetors are used.

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Old 01-03-2017, 08:46 PM   #4
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nature of the beast

jay speaks truth

as i understand, dr is not efi. unless efi is programed for hot performance as in rx3 it is just dutifully following instructions from its computer brain.

not sure if led headlight is included in 17' models but has been reported extensively here that it is lacking

speedo should have been addressed with digital wire solution but don't think it was included on the rx3's as reported by csc dude blog...We’ve got new RX3s and TT250s inbound. The new 2017 TT250s will have tachs and digital speedos (and the price will stay at $2195)

vicky...we are happy to have you. we are not just a fanboy site for csc but we are their biggest fans
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:18 PM   #5
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you have a 250 pushing the weight of a 650...
so it's never going to be mind blowing ...

A DR250 that throws yer like a "sling shot".. must be a
special model we haven't seen out here....



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Old 01-04-2017, 02:25 AM   #6
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The RX3 with fuel injection is very sensitive to valve clearance. Be sure you have that adjusted correctly.
hello Jay, thanks for replying, I have just uncrated the bike and doing its running period, will do valves clearance on 300km mark, just 50kms more .

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RX3 also have sprockets that are better for high speed. For trails most riders have changed to 13t front sprocket, and some have also changed the back sprocket to 46t from stock 44. Really makes the power feel better.
this make a lot of sense... I will be looking into this..

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I can not help you about the speedometer, I don't look at mine.

You can make the fuel gauge read better by bending the arm for the float. You will find instructions somewhere here.

Good luck, enjoy your RX3!
yes i will do some stuff I see a lot shared by spudrider... (Y)
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:27 AM   #7
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No, it is not only with your RX3.

The engine is high revving, and runs best (for me) between 5,000 and 8,000 rpm.

Does your RX3 have a carburetor or fuel injection?

In the US, the RX3's have fuel injection. In some other countries, carburetors are used.

jb
I have the feul injected one, its idle is at 2k RPM which seems to be a bit high I want to reduce its idle speed but dont know how..
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:33 AM   #8
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jay speaks truth

as i understand, dr is not efi. unless efi is programed for hot performance as in rx3 it is just dutifully following instructions from its computer brain.
yes the DR we still have in the group is far ahead in low end performance, the RX3 responds after 5k RPM and ahead..

I have no clue if my Rx3 EFI is tuned or just following instructions, I did notice the Idle speed is very high .. like 2k RPM which seems not normal..

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not sure if led headlight is included in 17' models but has been reported extensively here that it is lacking

speedo should have been addressed with digital wire solution but don't think it was included on the rx3's as reported by csc dude blog...We’ve got new RX3s and TT250s inbound. The new 2017 TT250s will have tachs and digital speedos (and the price will stay at $2195)
yes will have to work around these issues..


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vicky...we are happy to have you. we are not just a fanboy site for csc but we are their biggest fans
Thankyou blackBike, will be posting adventures on cyclone soon!!
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:41 AM   #9
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you have a 250 pushing the weight of a 650...
so it's never going to be mind blowing ...
Frankly I am not feeling bad at all that if it does not responds back like trail/offroad bikes.. I was just asking that if its usaul with RX3 or is it only my bike as its my first time with this machine.

have been riding xr400 and then DR250 lately and they respond at low end far more agressively and I am sure you know what I am saying.

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A DR250 that throws yer like a "sling shot".. must be a
special model we haven't seen out here....
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I understand your sarcasm, I was just saying becuase the difference i felt after acquiring this machine..
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:10 PM   #10
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Vicky, Welcome aboard.
I would ride it for 1000-2000 km before doing anything drastic as far as changing things. The motor , brakes will get better as they break in but in the end it's still a 400 lb 250. Change motor oil and check valves and just enjoy it as is . I've got over 12,000 mi on mine and it runs as good as when it had 2-3000 miles on it. I've gotten use to the speedo and gas gage being off and just go by my GPS anyway. It's a tight little motor that does need breaking in before you start making it sing. But mine will go for hours on end with throttle nearly pegged on the freeway till I have to stop and get gas. It's faithfully carried me on many wonderful camping trips for thousands of miles without a single break down other then loose nuts and bolts. So you'll want to go over them every so often especially on the luggage and engine crash bars as they seem to come loose the most , especially if you are doing rough trail rides. Have fun and enjoy getting to know your new RX3, rj
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:01 PM   #11
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Vicky, Welcome aboard.
I would ride it for 1000-2000 km before doing anything drastic as far as changing things. The motor , brakes will get better as they break in but in the end it's still a 400 lb 250. Change motor oil and check valves and just enjoy it as is . I've got over 12,000 mi on mine and it runs as good as when it had 2-3000 miles on it. I've gotten use to the speedo and gas gage being off and just go by my GPS anyway. It's a tight little motor that does need breaking in before you start making it sing. But mine will go for hours on end with throttle nearly pegged on the freeway till I have to stop and get gas. It's faithfully carried me on many wonderful camping trips for thousands of miles without a single break down other then loose nuts and bolts. So you'll want to go over them every so often especially on the luggage and engine crash bars as they seem to come loose the most , especially if you are doing rough trail rides. Have fun and enjoy getting to know your new RX3, rj

+1 to this. Such a huge difference in engine response and character from mile 1 to mile 1000. Almost feels like a different motor after its broken in. If you commute on freeways at 100kph/62mph I would say keep same sprockets. If you do more in town city riding or trail riding, you will find the bike much more to your liking switching to the 13t sprocket as others have mentioned. I do a mix of freeway city and trail riding. 700 miles/1000 kilometers on dirt last year and 1200 miles on freeway and in town roads. I have the 13 tooth sprocket and love it. Not really any downsides to it except higher speeds above 120kph/72mph it is little buzzy but not terrible.


 
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Old 01-05-2017, 03:30 AM   #12
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Thumbs Up Really Good to know...

its really a relief from users like @rjmorel and @superdude that you guys actually have used it to fullest and are happy with it..

yes I will sure complete the break in before hitting the snowy tracks of north this season..

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Old 01-05-2017, 08:33 PM   #13
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A question, Vickytulla.

The top speed on your RX3 should be a little more than 130 kph.
Does the DR250 also go that fast or is it geared lower?

That would confirm the different feel when you go from a stop or low speed.


 
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:22 AM   #14
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Grin

havent checked both head to head but I have taken the dr to really long tours.. and on lonely roads at times I was able to go beyond 120kmh when the altitude, and wind directions were in favor..

but at times it hardly went above 117kmh even trying to push further was hard...

after running period is over we will be going on long weekend trip both rides would be taking part so I will sure post how this interesting new Chinese Adventurer works out with an older Japanese thumper.

being optimistic i dont want it to out perform dr on dirt if it gives me a comfortable wide seat and good high end on long highway streches and still some what works out at the tail of a dr.. I am GOOOOODDDD



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A question, Vickytulla.

The top speed on your RX3 should be a little more than 130 kph.
Does the DR250 also go that fast or is it geared lower?

That would confirm the different feel when you go from a stop or low speed.
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I think your expectations comparing it to your DR250 are spot on. I think it will do everything but the hardest off road sections better. I think you'll be very pleased.


 
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