New 250cc retro bike

culcune · 06-07-2013, 08:15 PM

www.avavelocityworks.com/what-is-ava/

A couple of articles:

http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/...b6eeaa0b9.html
http://rideapart.com/2013/05/ava-vel...rks-250-swift/

Member 'Birdmove' on mychinamoto (does he use the same screen name here?) of Hawaii has been actively searching bikes to purchase. He found ava bikes somewhere or another. Another mychinamoto member, Zorge, found the articles about ava.

I guess Ava's main man is a designer first and foremost, like Scott Colisimo (sp?) of Cleveland Cycle Werks. He has designed a few scooters, and then felt that the US needed another line of retro bikes. The engine, according to one of the articles, is the familiar 223cc Loncin engine (usually designated as a '250'). My guess is the bikes are made by Skyteam since they are introducing the Honda Dream replica, and probably would be the holders of the licensing. Of course, even if they are "competing" with Ava, they still win, if they are the builders.

katoranger · 06-07-2013, 09:41 PM

I like it. The specs say 249cc.

pete · 06-08-2013, 12:43 AM

Sky team make a lot of strange bikes... If you look
though there models... it seem they are trying survive
by reproduceing a lot of the older popular models of years gone by...

SpudRider · 06-08-2013, 12:53 AM

I like the bike also.

However, I don't like the $4,000 price tag.

Weldangrind · 06-08-2013, 01:53 PM

That cafe bike has a certain old CB look to it. I like it, but that rear fender has got to go.

Trailbikeryder · 06-11-2013, 11:19 AM

The lower part of the engige looks like 125cc skyteam uses for the ACE. The upper part is bigger though. Like if they just put a 249cc head on the 125 engine case?

Weldangrind · 06-11-2013, 11:26 AM

The bottom end is the typical 200cc counterbalanced engine, but I'm not sure what that top end is from.

choldy · 06-15-2013, 03:45 AM

That's a really nice looking bike, I am a bit of a sucker for that old school cafe racer look

The Cafe`Cafe · 05-20-2015, 09:30 AM

I like this a lot and would like to see it first hand any new news?

JTHSPACE · 05-20-2015, 09:37 AM

You can get a 250cc Skyteam Ace in Europe - EUR 2,800 / GBP 2,000 / USD 3,000

Sorry about the picture size though, I just posted the link!

250cc Skyteam Ace Cafe racer

Jeff

Weldangrind · 05-20-2015, 11:06 AM

Those are sweet little bikes. I'd ditch the awful mudguards and the ridiculous tail light, and I'd install a larger headlight. The kickstand needs work as well.

It is a lovely starting point. The rearsets intrigue me.

JTHSPACE · 05-20-2015, 02:49 PM

Yep, but the mudguards are "period" as I seem to remember very similar on my Honda's in the early 70's, as is the tail light.

The rearsets look like they have used the passenger ped position? You can almost see where the pegs used to be, at the bottom of the "diamond" part of the frame. And a rear grab handle to pull it up onto the main stand, which isn't fitted.

Not bad though . . .

Weldangrind · 05-21-2015, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTHSPACE

And a rear grab handle to pull it up onto the main stand, which isn't fitted.

Not bad though . . .

I noticed that. I agree with you; not bad.

Adjuster · 05-21-2015, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTHSPACE

Yep, but the mudguards are "period" as I seem to remember very similar on my Honda's in the early 70's, as is the tail light.

The rearsets look like they have used the passenger ped position? You can almost see where the pegs used to be, at the bottom of the "diamond" part of the frame. And a rear grab handle to pull it up onto the main stand, which isn't fitted...

What bike is this?

Weldangrind · 05-21-2015, 01:26 AM

That's a Honda SS50. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_SS50

The coolest one I've ever seen is now a 100cc v-twin:

06-07-2013, 08:15 PM	#1
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	New 250cc retro bike www.avavelocityworks.com/what-is-ava/ A couple of articles: http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/...b6eeaa0b9.html http://rideapart.com/2013/05/ava-vel...rks-250-swift/ Member 'Birdmove' on mychinamoto (does he use the same screen name here?) of Hawaii has been actively searching bikes to purchase. He found ava bikes somewhere or another. Another mychinamoto member, Zorge, found the articles about ava. I guess Ava's main man is a designer first and foremost, like Scott Colisimo (sp?) of Cleveland Cycle Werks. He has designed a few scooters, and then felt that the US needed another line of retro bikes. The engine, according to one of the articles, is the familiar 223cc Loncin engine (usually designated as a '250'). My guess is the bikes are made by Skyteam since they are introducing the Honda Dream replica, and probably would be the holders of the licensing. Of course, even if they are "competing" with Ava, they still win, if they are the builders. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard Last edited by culcune; 06-07-2013 at 08:22 PM. Reason: fixed a link
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06-08-2013, 01:53 PM	#5
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That cafe bike has a certain old CB look to it. I like it, but that rear fender has got to go. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-11-2013, 11:19 AM	#6
Trailbikeryder Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 231	The lower part of the engige looks like 125cc skyteam uses for the ACE. The upper part is bigger though. Like if they just put a 249cc head on the 125 engine case? __________________ My CB : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZ8q-grmOQ 2012 Skyteam V-Raptor 250 2011 Yamaha Tenere XT 660Z abs 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 800 Classic 1989 Kawasaki GPZ 500
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06-11-2013, 11:26 AM	#7
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The bottom end is the typical 200cc counterbalanced engine, but I'm not sure what that top end is from. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-15-2013, 03:45 AM	#8
choldy Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 36	That's a really nice looking bike, I am a bit of a sucker for that old school cafe racer look
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The Cafe`Cafe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Oshkosh, WI USA Posts: 5	I like this a lot and would like to see it first hand any new news? __________________ Ride Full, Ride Fast Andy
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JTHSPACE Join Date: May 2015 Location: Cambridge, England Posts: 140	You can get a 250cc Skyteam Ace in Europe - EUR 2,800 / GBP 2,000 / USD 3,000 Sorry about the picture size though, I just posted the link! 250cc Skyteam Ace Cafe racer Jeff __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Riding bikes for over 40 years Honda C50 / SS50 / CB125 / CB250 Velocettes (various) Piaggio's / Honda's / Yamaha's Raptor . . . . the List Goes On . . . .
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05-20-2015, 11:06 AM	#11
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Those are sweet little bikes. I'd ditch the awful mudguards and the ridiculous tail light, and I'd install a larger headlight. The kickstand needs work as well. It is a lovely starting point. The rearsets intrigue me. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-20-2015, 02:49 PM	#12
JTHSPACE Join Date: May 2015 Location: Cambridge, England Posts: 140	Yep, but the mudguards are "period" as I seem to remember very similar on my Honda's in the early 70's, as is the tail light. The rearsets look like they have used the passenger ped position? You can almost see where the pegs used to be, at the bottom of the "diamond" part of the frame. And a rear grab handle to pull it up onto the main stand, which isn't fitted. Not bad though . . . __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Riding bikes for over 40 years Honda C50 / SS50 / CB125 / CB250 Velocettes (various) Piaggio's / Honda's / Yamaha's Raptor . . . . the List Goes On . . . .
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05-21-2015, 01:26 AM	#15
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's a Honda SS50. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_SS50 The coolest one I've ever seen is now a 100cc v-twin: __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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